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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by dabigchina » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:28 pm

CBlaw wrote:How did everyone do on the beginning mixed mbe question sets? Wanted to get an idea about how everyone is scoring?

Just got a 50% on the first one and was like wow. But was looking at the ones i got wrong and most were in the medium-hard section. Seems there were a lot missed. Are they giving us super hard mixed question sets?

I wish they gave stats on everyone else's scores like the do for the practice tests.
The first one is really hard. The next 3 are really really easy.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by ubebarstudying » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:03 pm

Mortgages was my trouble area too, I did as neil said and just tried to memorize what I thought were important rules cold so I could regurgitate them - I gave up on understanding them. Not necessarily helpful for the MBE per se (unless an element is missing, etc), but I think it is helpful for the MEE (though of course, you may not get tested on it).

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by Transfer2016 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:14 pm

CBlaw wrote:How did everyone do on the beginning mixed mbe question sets? Wanted to get an idea about how everyone is scoring?

Just got a 50% on the first one and was like wow. But was looking at the ones i got wrong and most were in the medium-hard section. Seems there were a lot missed. Are they giving us super hard mixed question sets?

I wish they gave stats on everyone else's scores like the do for the practice tests.
I got 76% on the first one, but I did it in interactive mode and had a couple lucky guesses.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by BlueLaw11 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:58 am

Have had really lackluster responses from Themis re answers to substantive law questions so thought I'd ask this here: what is sufficient to constitute privity when it comes to collateral estoppel? The outline doesn't have a firm answer, and I just did the question about the chef being found negligent in a suit against his employer, but he is entitled to re-litigate the issue when he was subsequently sued because he constitutes a different party. Is an employee not in privity with his or her employer? I would post the question but TLS is prohibiting me b/c of copyright issues. It's in Mixed PQ set 3.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by Molj1987 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:12 pm

dabigchina wrote:
CBlaw wrote:How did everyone do on the beginning mixed mbe question sets? Wanted to get an idea about how everyone is scoring?

Just got a 50% on the first one and was like wow. But was looking at the ones i got wrong and most were in the medium-hard section. Seems there were a lot missed. Are they giving us super hard mixed question sets?

I wish they gave stats on everyone else's scores like the do for the practice tests.
The first one is really hard. The next 3 are really really easy.

The 4 MBE mixed practice sets I've done: 68, 74, 74, 82. Two more coming up today. This is after I got a 51 on the Practice Exam #2.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by White Dwarf » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:34 pm

Has anyone gotten locked out of a practice exam and had to contact them to re-open it? How long does that take?

The odds of my wi-fi lasting for 80 minutes straight are pretty much zero, so this ought to be fun.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by CBlaw » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:37 pm

Molj1987 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:
CBlaw wrote:How did everyone do on the beginning mixed mbe question sets? Wanted to get an idea about how everyone is scoring?

Just got a 50% on the first one and was like wow. But was looking at the ones i got wrong and most were in the medium-hard section. Seems there were a lot missed. Are they giving us super hard mixed question sets?

I wish they gave stats on everyone else's scores like the do for the practice tests.
The first one is really hard. The next 3 are really really easy.

The 4 MBE mixed practice sets I've done: 68, 74, 74, 82. Two more coming up today. This is after I got a 51 on the Practice Exam #2.
Thanks for the responses. Also got me wondering how the averages on the Themis practice exams would translate to overall averages. Do yall think that average on a themis exam would be higher than average if taking into account everyone that takes the bar? My thinking is.. if themis has higher pass rates than the average bar taker (which their stats show) then average on their practice exam should theoretically be higher than average when compared to all bar takers.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by Great45 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:28 pm

White Dwarf wrote:Has anyone gotten locked out of a practice exam and had to contact them to re-open it? How long does that take?

The odds of my wi-fi lasting for 80 minutes straight are pretty much zero, so this ought to be fun.
Happened to me on the first practice exam. Only took a couple of minutes after contacting Themis by phone.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by White Dwarf » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:04 pm

Thanks!^^

On an unrelated note, the school desegregation question on the 1st mixed practice set is unhinged. I read the explanation 5x and still don't get it.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by dabigchina » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:53 pm

Does anyone else think it's ridiculous that Themis's schedule has you working up to the day of the bar exam? Seems like a good way to burn yourself out.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by 1Abimrdjur3 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:07 pm

Mixed Question Sets 1-4: 76; 88; 80; 78 - Thought the 4th one was pretty hard and that I did way worse on it than I actually did

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by Lawworld19 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:05 pm

Person above me - Jesus. Stud.

I just did the 100 question test. Got a 64%.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by dabigchina » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:38 pm

White Dwarf wrote:Thanks!^^

On an unrelated note, the school desegregation question on the 1st mixed practice set is unhinged. I read the explanation 5x and still don't get it.
I actually don't see that question at all. What was the gist of it?

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by White Dwarf » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:58 pm

dabigchina wrote:
White Dwarf wrote:Thanks!^^

On an unrelated note, the school desegregation question on the 1st mixed practice set is unhinged. I read the explanation 5x and still don't get it.
I actually don't see that question at all. What was the gist of it?
It was based on the Milliken v. Bradley case. It's about when a court can order measures to try and force schools to integrate, and what kind of measures are permitted to try and attract white students into districts with inadequate desegregation.

It's a weird question with a poorly explained answer (unless I missed something, which is very possible).

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by deacon » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:09 pm

Mixed Question Sets 1-5: 65-59-62-68-76. on the edge, could have been better..

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by landshoes » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:00 pm

BlueLaw11 wrote:Have had really lackluster responses from Themis re answers to substantive law questions so thought I'd ask this here: what is sufficient to constitute privity when it comes to collateral estoppel? The outline doesn't have a firm answer, and I just did the question about the chef being found negligent in a suit against his employer, but he is entitled to re-litigate the issue when he was subsequently sued because he constitutes a different party. Is an employee not in privity with his or her employer? I would post the question but TLS is prohibiting me b/c of copyright issues. It's in Mixed PQ set 3.

Thanks all. We're almost free..
Consider this in terms of the background purpose behind collateral estoppel. It's a squishy rule, but if two parties have substantially different interests, they're not in privity. An employee and an employer aren't in privity because in torts/agency, they have substantially different liabilities. Whereas two co-owners of a business, who would have the same liability, are more likely to be in privity.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by abogado2018 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:11 pm

I got a 62% on mixed PQ set #7 and now I'm mad :x

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by frqw9201 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:18 pm

Is it just me or do the mixed MBE questions have non MBE topics like conflict of laws and corporations?

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by dabigchina » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:47 pm

frqw9201 wrote:Is it just me or do the mixed MBE questions have non MBE topics like conflict of laws and corporations?
Conflict of laws is technically fair game in civ pro. I haven't noticed any corporations.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by thisyearsgirl » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:50 pm

Mixed sets: 71%, 59%, 68%, 76%, 68%.

The 2nd set is an outlier b/c I accidentally chose interactive mode, rather than test mode. The 100 question test was so exhausting though, I definitely lost focus around 75 questions in so I'm sort of satisfied I didn't do worse than I thought lol.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by cal2013 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:55 pm

Mixed Sets: 68, 82, 76, 68, 70, 78, 68

Kind of all over the place.

Also I just got 58% on the last Crim Law set, which is frustrating because I had been doing really well on Crim lately.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by dabigchina » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:51 pm

Huh, I guess themis has different schedules for different states, because I'm not supposed to take the 100 question set for another week or so.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by BlueLaw11 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:06 pm

landshoes wrote:
BlueLaw11 wrote:Have had really lackluster responses from Themis re answers to substantive law questions so thought I'd ask this here: what is sufficient to constitute privity when it comes to collateral estoppel? The outline doesn't have a firm answer, and I just did the question about the chef being found negligent in a suit against his employer, but he is entitled to re-litigate the issue when he was subsequently sued because he constitutes a different party. Is an employee not in privity with his or her employer? I would post the question but TLS is prohibiting me b/c of copyright issues. It's in Mixed PQ set 3.

Thanks all. We're almost free..
Consider this in terms of the background purpose behind collateral estoppel. It's a squishy rule, but if two parties have substantially different interests, they're not in privity. An employee and an employer aren't in privity because in torts/agency, they have substantially different liabilities. Whereas two co-owners of a business, who would have the same liability, are more likely to be in privity.
Thank you! This helped me.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by landshoes » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:58 pm

You're very welcome! Thanks for letting me know.

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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION

Post by deacon » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:31 pm

How are the percentages so far? I am %62 done, and I guess I am behind.

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