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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by SFassociate » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:48 pm

Idk why people feel the need to come on here and hardcore analyze their own scores on essays.

This is ridiculous and annoying for multiple reasons:

1.) None of us know what you wrote, we don't want to, and honestly, you probably don't remember a lot of what you wrote either. 2.) who cares at this point about specific details on the July exam? 3.) There is no way in heck any of us are experienced enough with grading bar exams to guess our essay scores down to the exact number.

Believe me, I am just as panicked as everyone else but posts like that aren't helpful at all in any way

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by PorscheFanatic » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:04 pm

^ I'm glad someone said it.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by mcmand » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:09 pm

SFassociate wrote:Idk why people feel the need to come on here and hardcore analyze their own scores on essays.

This is ridiculous and annoying for multiple reasons:

1.) None of us know what you wrote, we don't want to, and honestly, you probably don't remember a lot of what you wrote either. 2.) who cares at this point about specific details on the July exam? 3.) There is no way in heck any of us are experienced enough with grading bar exams to guess our essay scores down to the exact number.

Believe me, I am just as panicked as everyone else but posts like that aren't helpful at all in any way
I agree and tried to pick a fight about this same issue during the initial days and weeks after the exam, but to no avail. Panicked exam takers gonna be panicked exam takers.
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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by SFassociate » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:13 pm

mcmand wrote:
SFassociate wrote:Idk why people feel the need to come on here and hardcore analyze their own scores on essays.

This is ridiculous and annoying for multiple reasons:

1.) None of us know what you wrote, we don't want to, and honestly, you probably don't remember a lot of what you wrote either. 2.) who cares at this point about specific details on the July exam? 3.) There is no way in heck any of us are experienced enough with grading bar exams to guess our essay scores down to the exact number.

Believe me, I am just as panicked as everyone else but posts like that aren't helpful at all in any way
I agree and tried to pick a fight about this same issue during the initial days and weeks after the exam, but to no avail. Panicked exam takers gonna be panicked exam takers.

Don't get me wrong, I am sincerely sending good vibes to everyone. But come onnnnnnnnnnn :((

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by InterAlia1961 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:18 pm

SFassociate wrote:Idk why people feel the need to come on here and hardcore analyze their own scores on essays.

This is ridiculous and annoying for multiple reasons:

1.) None of us know what you wrote, we don't want to, and honestly, you probably don't remember a lot of what you wrote either. 2.) who cares at this point about specific details on the July exam? 3.) There is no way in heck any of us are experienced enough with grading bar exams to guess our essay scores down to the exact number.

Believe me, I am just as panicked as everyone else but posts like that aren't helpful at all in any way
Thanks for sharing, because nothing does more for your nervous colleagues than mocking their stress while exerting your moral superiority. Geez. I went over all the questions and the Pt the other day, because with some distance, my analysis of what I wrote is better. And I remember most of what I wrote, and worse, all of what I didn't write. Like on the Pt when I didn't even mention the dog alert or on essay two where I answered that the ACP survives the death of the client. How stupid was that? It helps me to share it because it prepares me for the inevitable result, while allowing me to be let down gradually. If I'm not expecting my name in green, then I won't be devastated when it's not. I've done this before. The one time I truly thought I passed, I was devastated to find out I didn't. Had I went over the questions and the pt, I would've known that I failed long before the results were posted. So, you're wrong. It's helpful to some of us, or we wouldn't be here.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by yeslekkkk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:33 pm

Sounds like everyone needs to get their own personal therapist.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by CaliforniaHopeful » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:42 pm

First time poster, long time lurker. This was my first shot at the California Bar. Everyone needs to chill. It's not a cancer diagnosis/death/death of a loved one. Get some perspective. A legal career is one of high stress/uncertainty, start learning healthy coping mechanisms now./rantover

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by b290 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:25 pm

CaliforniaHopeful wrote:First time poster, long time lurker. This was my first shot at the California Bar. Everyone needs to chill. It's not a cancer diagnosis/death/death of a loved one. Get some perspective. A legal career is one of high stress/uncertainty, start learning healthy coping mechanisms now./rantover
This. You will either pass or fail. You will move on by either celebrating or taking it again. If you haven’t learned from the LSAT, Admissions, and law school, the legal life’s full of stress. Get used to it.

Any anger should be directed at California for deliberately taking so long. When everybody’s gotten their results (results come out as early as Sept for some states), there’s a problem.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by PorscheFanatic » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:59 pm

I can't stop looking at a countdown timer I set on my desktop...

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by yeslekkkk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:03 pm

This came up with my co-worker. Totally distracted me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfE93xON8jk

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by InterAlia1961 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:06 pm

CaliforniaHopeful wrote:First time poster, long time lurker. This was my first shot at the California Bar. Everyone needs to chill. It's not a cancer diagnosis/death/death of a loved one. Get some perspective. A legal career is one of high stress/uncertainty, start learning healthy coping mechanisms now./rantover
Nothing unhealthy about sharing feelings of inadequacy.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by SFassociate » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:17 pm

InterAlia1961 wrote:
SFassociate wrote:Idk why people feel the need to come on here and hardcore analyze their own scores on essays.

This is ridiculous and annoying for multiple reasons:

1.) None of us know what you wrote, we don't want to, and honestly, you probably don't remember a lot of what you wrote either. 2.) who cares at this point about specific details on the July exam? 3.) There is no way in heck any of us are experienced enough with grading bar exams to guess our essay scores down to the exact number.

Believe me, I am just as panicked as everyone else but posts like that aren't helpful at all in any way
Thanks for sharing, because nothing does more for your nervous colleagues than mocking their stress while exerting your moral superiority. Geez. I went over all the questions and the Pt the other day, because with some distance, my analysis of what I wrote is better. And I remember most of what I wrote, and worse, all of what I didn't write. Like on the Pt when I didn't even mention the dog alert or on essay two where I answered that the ACP survives the death of the client. How stupid was that? It helps me to share it because it prepares me for the inevitable result, while allowing me to be let down gradually. If I'm not expecting my name in green, then I won't be devastated when it's not. I've done this before. The one time I truly thought I passed, I was devastated to find out I didn't. Had I went over the questions and the pt, I would've known that I failed long before the results were posted. So, you're wrong. It's helpful to some of us, or we wouldn't be here.
I am really sorry you took my statement to be "mocking" or felt that I was exerting "moral superiority." That wasn't my intention at all. I'm actually not sure where you that- but hey, lawyers get hit with unwarranted and over the top claims everyday- I guess it starts now? I am sorry you had to go through failing the first time and I hope you pass this time with flying colors but please don't project that anxiety on me in a nasty post.

The point I tried to make was that it is not necessary to torture ourselves (and potentially others) by publicly analyzing our exam answers that we don't even have. Did you take a moment to stop and think about how it makes people reading this thread feel to see another poster guessing what is wrong and right on essays? Do you think maybe it might create some unwarranted stress for lurkers/posters trying to support one another or find helpful information? (And rant about CA bar, of course) By putting your own analysis on the thread you are assuming you know the answers- did you consider that you could be misstating an essay answer and causing anxiety for other people who wrote what you did/didn't?

Either way, best of luck to you tomorrow (and me and everyone else on here!!).

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by InterAlia1961 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:18 pm

SFassociate wrote:Did you take a moment to stop and think about how it makes people reading this thread feel to see another poster guessing what is wrong and right on essays? Do you think maybe it might create some unwarranted stress for lurkers/posters trying to support one another or find helpful information? (And rant about CA bar, of course) By putting your own analysis on the thread you are assuming you know the answers- did you consider that you could be misstating an essay answer and causing anxiety for other people who wrote what you did/didn't?

Either way, best of luck to you tomorrow (and me and everyone else on here!!).
Sigh. Virtue-signaling run amuck.

So, if it causes someone somewhere stress, we shouldn't post it? You're not serious, right? I wasn't aware that this forum was a designated safe space. Did you consider that you might be creating unwarranted stress to people who post here by criticizing how they express themselves? Did you consider that by you could be causing anxiety by criticizing those of us who want to talk about what we wrote? If this forum causes you that much stress and anxiety, perhaps you should avoid it. By putting my analysis on this thread, I am contributing to the conversation. And why do you assume I assume I know the answers? If I did, I would post them. I do, however, believe that the professionals who have debriefed the exam know the answers.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by PorscheFanatic » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:26 pm

Just my $0.02....

I find InterAlia's posts anxiety inducing (because most of us don't want to think about what we wrote on any specific answer--it only creates stress, and even if you bombed one specific answer, you could've crushed everything else and still passed, so no need to dwell on individual responses).

SFAssociate: I'm on the same page. Especially, let's focus on "good luck to everyone on this thread, good vibes to everyone, let's just hope we can all pass together."

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by janesdoe » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:31 pm

I think we just all need to remember to:

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Peace and love to all! The misery is almost over.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by mcmand » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:50 pm

In the vein of positive thoughts:

Which expensive alcohol should I buy to treat myself if I pass? I was thinking a really nice bourbon but open to suggestions. (Not a scotch guy unless there's a good entree scotch that somehow exists.)
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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by wafflehausenberg » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:55 pm

mcmand wrote:In the vein of positive thoughts:

Which expensive alcohol should I buy to treat myself if I pass? I was thinking a really nice bourbon but open to suggestions. (Not a scotch guy unless there's a good entree scotch that somehow exists.)
Was just thinking about this. I'm also looking for a nice bourbon. Will probably buy only after (if) I pass. I'm considering Eagle Rare. For tomorrow, I'll probably make a mulled cider with inexpensive whiskey and some yummy spices to tide me over while waiting for results.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by CaliforniaHopeful » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:10 pm

mcmand wrote:In the vein of positive thoughts:

Which expensive alcohol should I buy to treat myself if I pass? I was thinking a really nice bourbon but open to suggestions. (Not a scotch guy unless there's a good entree scotch that somehow exists.)
If I pass, I'll probably go out and buy some coronas (yea, I'm classy). My roommates are trying to convince me to FB live me checking my results. Slightly tempted just for the sheer stupidity of it.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by nervous_wreck » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:14 pm

CaliforniaHopeful wrote:
mcmand wrote:In the vein of positive thoughts:

Which expensive alcohol should I buy to treat myself if I pass? I was thinking a really nice bourbon but open to suggestions. (Not a scotch guy unless there's a good entree scotch that somehow exists.)
If I pass, I'll probably go out and buy some coronas (yea, I'm classy). My roommates are trying to convince me to FB live me checking my results. Slightly tempted just for the sheer stupidity of it.
Omg that is hilarious! I️ would not have the guts to but if you pass that would be so good

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by dumbcookie » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:15 pm

wafflehausenberg wrote:
mcmand wrote:In the vein of positive thoughts:

Which expensive alcohol should I buy to treat myself if I pass? I was thinking a really nice bourbon but open to suggestions. (Not a scotch guy unless there's a good entree scotch that somehow exists.)
Was just thinking about this. I'm also looking for a nice bourbon. Will probably buy only after (if) I pass. I'm considering Eagle Rare. For tomorrow, I'll probably make a mulled cider with inexpensive whiskey and some yummy spices to tide me over while waiting for results.


Warm PBR if I fail, Armand de Brignac Champagne made with drops of literal sweat off Jay-Z's body as he and Beyonce jump with glee at my passing the bar.

Probably the PBR tho.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by goldenflash19 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:16 pm

There’s a famous bar in my city that I’ve heard about. Drinks run about $20 each. It will probably be the only day in my life I buy multiple drinks at a place like that.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by nsv » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:45 pm

I have a nice bottle of champagne and a bottle of vodka. Either I'll be spoiling myself or punishing myself.


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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by PorscheFanatic » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:59 pm

Thinking about trying to go into work late tomorrow so that I have the fewest hours possible sitting in front of a computer screen watching the time pass...

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by AcidaliaPlanitia » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:23 pm

mcmand wrote:In the vein of positive thoughts:

Which expensive alcohol should I buy to treat myself if I pass? I was thinking a really nice bourbon but open to suggestions. (Not a scotch guy unless there's a good entree scotch that somehow exists.)
Jefferson's Reserve, or if you're feeling like spending a little more, Jefferson's Ocean Aged. Some seriously awesome bourbons.

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Re: 2017 July California Bar

Post by CaliforniaHopeful » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:24 pm

PorscheFanatic wrote:Thinking about trying to go into work late tomorrow so that I have the fewest hours possible sitting in front of a computer screen watching the time pass...

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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