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HiOCEAN · Post by **HiOCEAN** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:19 pm

I'm so over this ...

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:05 pm

IL people, they've updated the scoring memo for the February Bar:

https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/july-2016-scoring-memo

It says July in the links but it is dated for TOMORROW March 31st.

LMMadison · Post by **LMMadison** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:12 pm

Ooooh boy.

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:13 pm

Illinois takers, here is the link to the percentile breakdown: https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/feb-201 ... ent-charts

I replaced the score report from last year with 2017 and removed 2016. Historically it is released the day before but I don't know if they updated IBAB yet.

I don't know if this is good for us or just bad overrall but the MBE score went down. Highest scaled is 165.

NonTradHealthLaw · Post by **NonTradHealthLaw** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:13 pm

virgoyum wrote:IL people, they've updated the scoring memo for the February Bar:

https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/july-2016-scoring-memo

It says July in the links but it is dated for TOMORROW March 31st.

Nice sleuthing. That seems like sufficient grounds to take a Xanax.

mjr0773 · Post by **mjr0773** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:23 pm

virgoyum wrote:Illinois takers, here is the link to the percentile breakdown: https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/feb-201 ... ent-charts

I replaced the score report from last year with 2017 and removed 2016. Historically it is released the day before but I don't know if they updated IBAB yet.

I don't know if this is good for us or just bad overrall but the MBE score went down. Highest scaled is 165.

Any chance results come out today now that this is posted?

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:23 pm

If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:25 pm

mjr0773 wrote:
virgoyum wrote:Illinois takers, here is the link to the percentile breakdown: https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/feb-201 ... ent-charts

I replaced the score report from last year with 2017 and removed 2016. Historically it is released the day before but I don't know if they updated IBAB yet.

I don't know if this is good for us or just bad overrall but the MBE score went down. Highest scaled is 165.
Any chance results come out today now that this is posted?

No I don't believe so. The understanding your score letter is dated for tomorrow and it comes with your email.

Anoni-mous · Post by **Anoni-mous** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:26 pm

virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.

How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.

mjr0773 · Post by **mjr0773** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:46 pm

Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.

well - with those numbers time to dust off the outlines and set the sights on the end of July

umichman · Post by **umichman** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:51 pm

Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.

we know for a fact that at least 40% failed. so definitely not a mid to low 70% pass rate.

thewait17 · Post by **thewait17** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:56 pm

umichman wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
we know for a fact that at least 40% failed. so definitely not a mid to low 70% pass rate.

That's mildly terrifying.

mjr0773 · Post by **mjr0773** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:02 pm

thewait17 wrote:
umichman wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
we know for a fact that at least 40% failed. so definitely not a mid to low 70% pass rate.
That's mildly terrifying.

That is just a huge drop from just last year. What is going on????

umichman · Post by **umichman** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:05 pm

mjr0773 wrote:
thewait17 wrote:
umichman wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
we know for a fact that at least 40% failed. so definitely not a mid to low 70% pass rate.
That's mildly terrifying.
That is just a huge drop from just last year. What is going on????

this si the real march madness.

maxmartin · Post by **maxmartin** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:07 pm

mjr0773 wrote:
thewait17 wrote:
umichman wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
we know for a fact that at least 40% failed. so definitely not a mid to low 70% pass rate.
That's mildly terrifying.
That is just a huge drop from just last year. What is going on????

25 experimental questions???

Anderson88 · Post by **Anderson88** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:15 pm

I felt confident I would pass until seeing those percentile equivalents...now I feel sick.

It's so ridiculous that they can take away 15 point opportunities from us but keep the passing score the same.

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:17 pm

Anderson88 wrote:I felt confident I would pass until seeing those percentile equivalents...now I feel sick. It's so ridiculous that they can take away 15 point opportunities from us but keep the passing score the same.

And it's increasing to 268 in July.

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:18 pm

umichman wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
we know for a fact that at least 40% failed. so definitely not a mid to low 70% pass rate.

BAZINGA

lawst_ · Post by **lawst_** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:21 pm

I've taken this damn thing multiple times. New percentile charts are terrifying, to say the least.

If I don't make it again, I'm done with IL for good. Especially with the minimum score going up.

bulinus · Post by **bulinus** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:27 pm

Anderson88 wrote:I felt confident I would pass until seeing those percentile equivalents...now I feel sick. It's so ridiculous that they can take away 15 point opportunities from us but keep the passing score the same.

MBE scores aren't that much different that last Feb adminstration. It looks like there are lower scores at the end of the distribution, but that could just be one or two people:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=us

virgoyum · Post by **virgoyum** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:33 pm

Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.

Last year an MBE scaled score of 165 was 93rd percentile. This year it's 99th. Something's going on here and it smells like 25 pretest questions but then again I'm looking at the essay averages and top scaled is also 165 so hell if know.

Anderson88 · Post by **Anderson88** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:38 pm

lawst_ wrote:I've taken this damn thing multiple times. New percentile charts are terrifying, to say the least.

If I don't make it again, I'm done with IL for good. Especially with the minimum score going up.

I am in the same boat. Even before seeing these awful numbers, I decided that this is my 3rd and last time taking it. This test is so mentally, emotionally & financially draining... I need to move on with my life!

mjr0773 · Post by **mjr0773** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:40 pm

virgoyum wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
Last year an MBE scaled score of 165 was 93rd percentile. This year it's 99th. Something's going on here and it smells like 25 pretest questions but then again I'm looking at the essay averages and top scaled is also 165 so hell if know.

Looking at it from another angle, in 2016 if you scored at the 50 percentile on both days you should have gotten about a 269. This year that same result gets about a 267... so at least that is relatively consistent.

umichman · Post by **umichman** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:43 pm

virgoyum wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
Last year an MBE scaled score of 165 was 93rd percentile. This year it's 99th. Something's going on here and it smells like 25 pretest questions but then again I'm looking at the essay averages and top scaled is also 165 so hell if know.

According to the links on this page, a scaled score of 165 last February was in the 99th percentile?

bulinus · Post by **bulinus** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:46 pm

umichman wrote:
virgoyum wrote:
Anoni-mous wrote:
virgoyum wrote:If I'm assessing this right, even with a top scaled score of 165 I estimate between 40-45% takers failed.
How?! This is inconsistent with past year. I'm guessing mid to low 70% pass rate. 55% is much too low.
Last year an MBE scaled score of 165 was 93rd percentile. This year it's 99th. Something's going on here and it smells like 25 pretest questions but then again I'm looking at the essay averages and top scaled is also 165 so hell if know.
According to the links on this page, a scaled score of 165 last February was in the 99th percentile?

Yeah, you can't compare February and July administrations and conclude there is something different about the test. Those are two very different test-taking populations.

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