"Suprise: MBE Scores Rise in 2016" Forum

JayRock2015 · Post by **JayRock2015** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:38 am

Check out this article on lawschoolcafe.org

MBE scores higher per Ms.Moeser...

It appears to be a good sign for us July 2016 test takers

kellyfrost · Post by **kellyfrost** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:04 pm

I guess the actual link is lawschoolcafe.org

Anyways, a .4 point increase isn't a substantial increase by any means.

JayRock2015 · Post by **JayRock2015** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:06 pm

http://www.lawschoolcafe.org/2016/08/31 ... e-in-2016/

mvp99 · Post by **mvp99** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:08 pm

This was probably due to my 185 MBE score.

JayRock2015 · Post by **JayRock2015** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:10 pm

I agree but the article also stated that 22 states saw increases in their MBE scores, 26 saw decreases in scores and 2 remained the same.

immalawyer · Post by **immalawyer** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:37 pm

kellyfrost wrote:I guess the actual link is lawschoolcafe.org

Anyways, a .4 point increase isn't a substantial increase by any means.

Better than down .4 points.

SLS_AMG · Post by **SLS_AMG** » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:41 pm

I kind of wish there was a way to find out our MBE scores. Seems crazy that half the test was probably finished long ago, but the other half takes so long that we still have almost a two-month wait. On the other hand, I probably wouldn't want to know my score if it were below 135 or 130. The stress would ratchet up about 10 notches.

blaze1306 · Post by **blaze1306** » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:27 pm

Results are trickling in...I'm not ready ...

JayRock2015 · Post by **JayRock2015** » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:50 pm

Me either....as much as I say I am "anxiously awaiting Indiana Bar exam results..."

StarLord23 · Post by **StarLord23** » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:26 pm

Oklahoma is in. Do we know if anyone is keeping a spreadsheet this year with score changes from prep course to real thing?

passx3 · Post by **passx3** » Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:24 pm

StarLord23 wrote:Oklahoma is in. Do we know if anyone is keeping a spreadsheet this year with score changes from prep course to real thing?

I spoke to someone who passed in Oklahoma, they said they don't get a score breakdown unless they fail. Same with North Carolina I think. So we haven't had too many MBE score reports yet.

StarLord23 · Post by **StarLord23** » Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:40 am

They give you your MBE score, just not the essay portion. You get the MBE no matter what, just not the essays if you pass.

mvp99 · Post by **mvp99** » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:54 am

a few people have said they dont even grade your essays when you go beyond a certain mbe threshold

StarLord23 · Post by **StarLord23** » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:56 am

mvp99 wrote:a few people have said they dont even grade your essays when you go beyond a certain mbe threshold

I heard that was the former practice, but their website says everything is graded in the FAQ section. Who knows!

kellyfrost · Post by **kellyfrost** » Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:38 pm

mvp99 wrote:a few people have said they dont even grade your essays when you go beyond a certain mbe threshold

This is a myth.

ironbmike · Post by **ironbmike** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:01 am

That 140 average is scaled, correct? I still don't really understand how a curved test has a changing mean, but it doesn't really matter.

BillCooper · Post by **BillCooper** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:24 pm

mvp99 wrote:This was probably due to my 185 MBE score.

Beat me to it, lol.

udonisandtrinity · Post by **udonisandtrinity** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:41 pm

THIS. is great news.

I was extremely worried that the MBE scores would continue to decline given the continuing decline in LSAT scores. Why? My understanding is that when MBE scores on average drop, then it signals to the NCBE that the pool of examiners are less qualified than previous pools and thus the graded curve is not as generous. Example: In 2011, a test taker who had a raw score of 130/190 would have received a graded score of 140-145. For 2016 February, the mean MBE score was the lowest in like 33 years. As a result, the same 130/190 would have resulted in a graded score of 138-142.

Lower MBE mean scores will generally mean it will be more difficult to pass.

Separately, I've heard that some states like NY don't even read all your essays. They read 2-3. Who really knows. They may not even read your essays if you meet a minimum MBE score cut-off. I wonder if they even look at your NCBE profile and partially take that information into account.

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