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Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by WolverineMachine » Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:30 pm

I didn't really use flash cards much in school, but see a lot of people in the library (I know bad idea) making flash cards. Personally, I've been sitting down after lectures and making concise outlines from the material - just like in school.

Anyone have any suggestions as to whether making flash cards are a must, makes no difference, or outlines are preferred? Thanks!

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by thegrayman » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:19 pm

For NY I made my own outlines because everyone else was doing it.

For CA I said screw it and just used the barbri materials (the CMR), didn't make a single outline.

I found outlining to be a waste of time, you already have an outline right there in front of you and unlike law school you don't get to take your outlines in the exam room with you.

I did use the critical pass flashcards for both NY and CA, I thought those were pretty useful.

Everyone is different, that was my takeaway from it all.

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by Neve » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:54 pm

I learn best by flash cards so I used Critical Pass flash cards (referral link with discount code for $15 off - http://criticalpass.refr.cc/WXNZSR4) as a supplement to my Barbri course. It's essentially the CMR in flash card format and they are a huge time saver. However, they are not a replacement for the CMR. I don't know if it's a wise use of valuable time to make your own cards or outlines for the bar exam. There is a lot to learn in a limited amount of time. There is also always the option of annotating in the CMR and on the Critical Pass flash card itself - there are blanks lines for writing notes on each card - to customize your learning toolkit.
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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by L_William_W » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:32 pm

WolverineMachine wrote:I didn't really use flash cards much in school, but see a lot of people in the library (I know bad idea) making flash cards. Personally, I've been sitting down after lectures and making concise outlines from the material - just like in school.

Anyone have any suggestions as to whether making flash cards are a must, makes no difference, or outlines are preferred? Thanks!
Make your own outlines. It's not a waste of time. When you make your own outlines, you're actively engaging in the material. Making your own outlines and reading someone else's outlines is two different things. Passing the bar requires understanding the material, not just memorizing rules.

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by silenttimer » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:59 pm

I made outlines after each lecture. Two/three weeks before the bar I condensed my outlines into flash cards and used them to drill the essential concepts.

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by Law&coffee » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:11 pm

L_William_W wrote: Make your own outlines. It's not a waste of time. When you make your own outlines, you're actively engaging in the material. Making your own outlines and reading someone else's outlines is two different things. Passing the bar requires understanding the material, not just memorizing rules.
Barbri's entire lecture program is built on actively engaging in the material - that's why you "fill in the blank" as you listen to the lecture. I agree that passing the bar requires understanding the material, but there are many ways to accomplish this such as highlighting and annotating outlines and flash cards that are designed specifically for the bar exam.

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by hogfan1991 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:38 pm

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by LionelHutzJD » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:44 pm

Law&coffee wrote:
L_William_W wrote: Make your own outlines. It's not a waste of time. When you make your own outlines, you're actively engaging in the material. Making your own outlines and reading someone else's outlines is two different things. Passing the bar requires understanding the material, not just memorizing rules.
Barbri's entire lecture program is built on actively engaging in the material - that's why you "fill in the blank" as you listen to the lecture. I agree that passing the bar requires understanding the material, but there are many ways to accomplish this such as highlighting and annotating outlines and flash cards that are designed specifically for the bar exam.

I think you nailed it. We are paying Barbri 3k - I don't think making our own outlines is essential when we are provided with these lecture handouts.

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by Neve » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:28 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
Law&coffee wrote:
L_William_W wrote: Make your own outlines. It's not a waste of time. When you make your own outlines, you're actively engaging in the material. Making your own outlines and reading someone else's outlines is two different things. Passing the bar requires understanding the material, not just memorizing rules.
Barbri's entire lecture program is built on actively engaging in the material - that's why you "fill in the blank" as you listen to the lecture. I agree that passing the bar requires understanding the material, but there are many ways to accomplish this such as highlighting and annotating outlines and flash cards that are designed specifically for the bar exam.

I think you nailed it. We are paying Barbri 3k - I don't think making our own outlines is essential when we are provided with these lecture handouts.
It's important not to waste valuable time while studying for the bar by assuming it's like a regular law school exam. It's not. Yes, utilize the same study methods, but don't waste time by creating your own outlines for 20+ different subjects.

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Re: Flash Cards or Outlines?

Post by L_William_W » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:57 pm

Again, this is just my opinion...

When you make an outline, you're not just aimlessly typing (or writing). You're actively learning the material. You're learning the nuances of the rules, as well as the exceptions. There's a difference between listening to a boring Barbri lecture for 3 hours and actually doing the work yourself. I'll use a simple analogy: if you wanted to learn how to play basketball, would you watch a DVD by LeBron James telling you how to play or would you actually practice on a court?

And I'll reiterate that you won't pass the bar just by memorizing rules (it took me 4 attempts to realize that). You have to know when and how to apply those rules. Making your own outlines teaches you how to do so.

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