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MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by KirbyKager » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:01 am

Just in case I have to do this again, although hopefully not....while this is still fresh in our minds, I was just was wondering, after taking the MBE, which sample questions you thought best represented the difficulty and wicked/fiendish nature of the actual MBE.. I heard adaptibar was most representative, followed by the Kaplan question bank. I had some Barbri practice questions, but I found them far easier than the actual MBE, which I found pretty problematic.

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by bluesplitter » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:29 am

KirbyKager wrote:Just in case I have to do this again, although hopefully not....while this is still fresh in our minds, I was just was wondering, after taking the MBE, which sample questions you thought best represented the difficulty and wicked/fiendish nature of the actual MBE.. I heard adaptibar was most representative, followed by the Kaplan question bank. I had some Barbri practice questions, but I found them far easier than the actual MBE, which I found pretty problematic.

Adaptibar and Emmanuel ...(i had themis,...not bad,...but the "moral" red herring questions where off compared to the real MBE questions when they want you to mechanically apply the rule, even if it means grandma will not be able recover for her unfortunate situation)

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by CYP » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:46 am

Adaptibar for sure.

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by Kelleyaorr » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:50 am

Adaptibar!!! I exhausted all of the Adaptibar, Barbri, Themis, and Rigos questions I had and hands down Adaptibar was better. Many of the MBE questions were the exact same fact patterns from Adaptibar and that made my MBE experience not as unpleasant as the MEE/MPT. However, if I don't pass I will blame Adaptibar :wink:

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by rhs67858 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:20 pm

Interested in this topic too. Any insight would be appreciated, as I am about to pull the trigger on BarBri, and begin there early start thing. However, I am becoming more interested in Adaptibar (perhaps I could supplement one with the other).

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:43 pm

KirbyKager wrote:Just in case I have to do this again, although hopefully not....while this is still fresh in our minds, I was just was wondering, after taking the MBE, which sample questions you thought best represented the difficulty and wicked/fiendish nature of the actual MBE.. I heard adaptibar was most representative, followed by the Kaplan question bank. I had some Barbri practice questions, but I found them far easier than the actual MBE, which I found pretty problematic.

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by KirbyKager » Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:14 am

Thanks all, one thing I wanted to comment on, somebody on this strand mentioned Emanuelle's(strategies and tactics). I found their two books very helpful and very representative of the MBE, in fact even harder than the actual MBE. Although, I have semi-confirmed that these two books were based on the actual released questions by the NCBE....to the T.

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Post by THE_U » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:14 pm

I saw a few fact patterns that were almost identical to Adaptibar questions.

Can't say the same for Barbri.

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Post by lawst_ » Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:28 pm

Kaplan and Emmanuel were pretty on point with the actual MBE. I believe I read that Emmanuel uses the past questions from the NCBE (which are available for purchase online at $50 per packet. This makes Emmanuel cheaper since you get X-hundred actual questions from the MBE while only paying ~$50 for the book instead of $50 for each individual packet). I didn't use Adaptibar, but if I ever have to take the bar again, I will definitely use Adaptibar for MBE, probably combined with Kaplan and Emmanuel.

Barbri's MBE prep is absolutely AWFUL. The questions are nowhere near close to the actual MBE. I've taken the bar (and Barbri) twice and I've found that Barbri's fact patterns are way too simple and aren't on point with actual issues that are tested. This time around I only used Barbri's questions at the very beginning of my prep because I knew they wouldn't serve me well later on, especially closer to exam time. I do think Barbri's CMR is helpful for learning the law, though.

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by InTheWideLand I Walk » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:02 am

I have seen nearly identical questions from every testing company on the real thing, even barbri. If you could figure out a way to learn all of the questions from all the testing companies then you would probably be gold. unfortunately, we do not live in a vacuum with unlimited study time, so that will take some thought.

what I want to know is... how you can learn all of the narrow stuff that never appears on the practice questions but comes up on 1 out of 3 questions on the real MBE. did anyone read some outline somewhere with just a bunch of narrow rules that noticeably came up on the real thing?

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by KirbyKager » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:49 pm

With regard to practice test questions, I don't know which help with the narrow rules. But it is not Barbri, however, while their practice questions are terrible,I don't recall anything on the MBE that was not in Barbri's convisor or Multistate Outline in some form or the other, correct me if I am wrong.

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Post by squiggle » Sun May 01, 2016 5:46 pm

I recommend both Kaplan and Emmanuel's, as someone who is getting ready to take a third state's bar exam. The current Emmanuel's, which is available on Amazon, does not currently include civ pro. BUT Emmanel is releasing a new version at the end of this month that does include civ pro and is now available for pre order on Amazon.

I do not recommend Barbri, which I previously used. Barbi's questions haven't kept up with the changing MBE, especially for civ pro questions. I also wish Barbri had a way to track the subtopic you're weak in, which only seems to happen once throughout the course when you take the full MBE later in the summer (late June or early July).

I also recommend Adaptibar, which I just started using last month. It's something that I can do on my iPad when I have a few minutes here or there (I'm working full time), and I don't have to carry around books. After you've completed a fair amount of questions (50 in each subject, I think), it identifies subtopics that you're weak in and give you targeted questions going forward. It also includes all the official MBE questions that NCBE has released. PM with your email address if you need a $50 discount code for Adaptibar.

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Mon May 02, 2016 4:47 am

InTheWideLand I Walk wrote: what I want to know is... how you can learn all of the narrow stuff that never appears on the practice questions but comes up on 1 out of 3 questions on the real MBE. did anyone read some outline somewhere with just a bunch of narrow rules that noticeably came up on the real thing?

IMO opinion those are just "luck of the draw" questions...questions that no one can possibly prepare for...it's just luck if you happened to study it during law school or the bar. I'd bet serious money that even the majority of seasoned attys can't answer those questions under similar test taking environment.

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Mon May 02, 2016 4:48 am

KirbyKager wrote:With regard to practice test questions, I don't know which help with the narrow rules. But it is not Barbri, however, while their practice questions are terrible,I don't recall anything on the MBE that was not in Barbri's convisor or Multistate Outline in some form or the other, correct me if I am wrong.
I do believe there was some MBE questions from Feb 2016 that were not covered in the CMR

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by kidfromny » Mon May 02, 2016 12:44 pm

squiggle wrote:I recommend both Kaplan and Emmanuel's, as someone who is getting ready to take a third state's bar exam. The current Emmanuel's, which is available on Amazon, does not currently include civ pro. BUT Emmanel is releasing a new version at the end of this month that does include civ pro and is now available for pre order on Amazon.

I do not recommend Barbri, which I previously used. Barbi's questions haven't kept up with the changing MBE, especially for civ pro questions. I also wish Barbri had a way to track the subtopic you're weak in, which only seems to happen once throughout the course when you take the full MBE later in the summer (late June or early July).

I also recommend Adaptibar, which I just started using last month. It's something that I can do on my iPad when I have a few minutes here or there (I'm working full time), and I don't have to carry around books. After you've completed a fair amount of questions (50 in each subject, I think), it identifies subtopics that you're weak in and give you targeted questions going forward. It also includes all the official MBE questions that NCBE has released. PM with your email address if you need a $50 discount code for Adaptibar.

Happy studying!
Do you know if the questions in the Emanuel 6th edition book coming out this month will be different than the current questions in the 5th edition? I know there are new Civ Pro questions, but I wonder if they will be changing and updating the other subject questions?

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Re: MBE..Adaptibar, Kaplan, Barbi..which represented?

Post by squiggle » Tue May 03, 2016 12:44 am

I had that same question, but I couldn't tell from the description on Amazon. I might buy the new edition, even though I already have the older version, because I'm desperate from good civ pro practice questions.
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squiggle wrote:I recommend both Kaplan and Emmanuel's, as someone who is getting ready to take a third state's bar exam. The current Emmanuel's, which is available on Amazon, does not currently include civ pro. BUT Emmanel is releasing a new version at the end of this month that does include civ pro and is now available for pre order on Amazon.

I do not recommend Barbri, which I previously used. Barbi's questions haven't kept up with the changing MBE, especially for civ pro questions. I also wish Barbri had a way to track the subtopic you're weak in, which only seems to happen once throughout the course when you take the full MBE later in the summer (late June or early July).

I also recommend Adaptibar, which I just started using last month. It's something that I can do on my iPad when I have a few minutes here or there (I'm working full time), and I don't have to carry around books. After you've completed a fair amount of questions (50 in each subject, I think), it identifies subtopics that you're weak in and give you targeted questions going forward. It also includes all the official MBE questions that NCBE has released. PM with your email address if you need a $50 discount code for Adaptibar.

Happy studying!
Do you know if the questions in the Emanuel 6th edition book coming out this month will be different than the current questions in the 5th edition? I know there are new Civ Pro questions, but I wonder if they will be changing and updating the other subject questions?

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