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WOW anyone else not have a whole bunch of fun with those bad boys?
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Glansberg88 wrote:WOW anyone else not have a whole bunch of fun with those bad boys?
Oh I know! Which ones do you think were the hardest? I thought the afternoon ones were harder than the morning!
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The first one in the afternoon was BRUTALLLLLL. Heard a group of 10 people talking after saying they had no idea what the issues were. Thought the Corp sub part was easier than it looked initially, but a tricky topic to mix in after already giving a Secured Trans/Comm Paper. Also can't believe no Property
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Remind me about the first one and I'll tell you what I put on it.Glansberg88 wrote:The first one in the afternoon was BRUTALLLLLL. Heard a group of 10 people talking after saying they had no idea what the issues were. Thought the Corp sub part was easier than it looked initially, but a tricky topic to mix in after already giving a Secured Trans/Comm Paper. Also can't believe no Property
Did you write that Fran could try a derivative suit? Did you say that the first part of the TechCo president fact pattern was about the paroles evidence rule?
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Yes to first part of the UCC/Corp. I did mention PE as the main part of that discussion, along with the basic UCC k formalities.
I said Fran could go for it for sure, but thought he was unlikely to succeed and it appeared it was brought in bad faith due to being passed over so would be liable for att. fees and costs if the suit was found to be brought.
The essay (6) was about the Judge's ruling on the 93A, his advisory instruction to the jury, and the JNOV denials for both the P and D.
I said Fran could go for it for sure, but thought he was unlikely to succeed and it appeared it was brought in bad faith due to being passed over so would be liable for att. fees and costs if the suit was found to be brought.
The essay (6) was about the Judge's ruling on the 93A, his advisory instruction to the jury, and the JNOV denials for both the P and D.
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I did the same about the Corp essay...formalities and PE mostly for the first part. I was slightly confused about VC....I think the corp would have to offer shareholders the same percentage of stock with a new issuance. Also, I don't think that the corp could issue common stock to VC for a diff price than other common stock.Glansberg88 wrote:Yes to first part of the UCC/Corp. I did mention PE as the main part of that discussion, along with the basic UCC k formalities.
I said Fran could go for it for sure, but thought he was unlikely to succeed and it appeared it was brought in bad faith due to being passed over so would be liable for att. fees and costs if the suit was found to be brought.
The essay (6) was about the Judge's ruling on the 93A, his advisory instruction to the jury, and the JNOV denials for both the P and D.
Oh yeah. For essay 6 I wrote that the Jnov denial to Harold was in error but not the one to the mom. The advisory instruction was wrong and he can't take the 93a from the jury.
With re to the evidence essay, what did you put about the first part....can the decorated thing come in? I said no, I think.
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I went the same way as you with that MA Civ Pro one on all 4, so we are either going to blow that one or do quite well. I ended up going the same way as you with regard to VC. What did you say about Patti's offer?
For Evidence, I really can't recall what I put off the top of my head or find the actual paper question I took home, but I think I said no to the decorated record, but for the second part of that I think I wrote that the victim's reputation as a well known trouble maker could come in. My memory is a little fuzzy on that question though.
What did you think about the last one on the 3 statutes?
For Evidence, I really can't recall what I put off the top of my head or find the actual paper question I took home, but I think I said no to the decorated record, but for the second part of that I think I wrote that the victim's reputation as a well known trouble maker could come in. My memory is a little fuzzy on that question though.
What did you think about the last one on the 3 statutes?
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Wow that's great. I think I said that the board should have had the president be voted in. People can't just be officers without approval.Glansberg88 wrote:I went the same way as you with that MA Civ Pro one on all 4, so we are either going to blow that one or do quite well. I ended up going the same way as you with regard to VC. What did you say about Patti's offer?
For Evidence, I really can't recall what I put off the top of my head or find the actual paper question I took home, but I think I said no to the decorated record, but for the second part of that I think I wrote that the victim's reputation as a well known trouble maker could come in. My memory is a little fuzzy on that question though.
What did you think about the last one on the 3 statutes?
I said that the rep can come in too.
For the con law essay I said the first one was valid. No appeal because no right to foster and no right to abuse kids and agency has discretion. State is the Guardian of kids in foster care and has the right to decide
For part two I said the stun gun statute was over broad and vague. I had trouble with it.
For part three I said can't criminalize political speech unless likely to cause imminent harm.
You?
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Agreed on Patti, that is the response I gave as well.
I said deny the appeal on 1 as well. Wasn't confident on 2 and 3 and denied the appeal on 2 but not 3.
Felt good about Domestic Relations and Wills. Found myself going deep into Torts and Crim Law essays, maybe not budgeting my time on those two well enough. For the Federal Civ Pro, did you hit on all the major topics?
I said deny the appeal on 1 as well. Wasn't confident on 2 and 3 and denied the appeal on 2 but not 3.
Felt good about Domestic Relations and Wills. Found myself going deep into Torts and Crim Law essays, maybe not budgeting my time on those two well enough. For the Federal Civ Pro, did you hit on all the major topics?
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I said:Glansberg88 wrote:Agreed on Patti, that is the response I gave as well.
I said deny the appeal on 1 as well. Wasn't confident on 2 and 3 and denied the appeal on 2 but not 3.
Felt good about Domestic Relations and Wills. Found myself going deep into Torts and Crim Law essays, maybe not budgeting my time on those two well enough. For the Federal Civ Pro, did you hit on all the major topics?
Essay 6....93A, advisory question, judgment amounts, two JNOV
Essay 7.....will or no will? Mentioned omitted child, omitted spouse, intestate, elective share, his editing the will, their agreement isn't valid, security interest in the baseball cards, and much more
Essay 8....techco.....p.e. and formalities.....also VC. Suits, stock issuance
Essay 9.....
A. No settlement can come in
B. No training programs.
C. Rep only can come in
D. Confrontation clause
E. May use but not admissible in evidence
F. Must testify and can't read
10.....no appeal on first one. Stun gun was vague....political speech is protected.
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I think we have many of the same answers, or at least issue spotting, which is half the battle.
Essay 6... I overlooked the judgement amount on essay 6, which is disappointing.
Essay 7... I went with valid will, knocked out the contradictory terms from their marriage agreement. And like you said, basically dumped wills topics in there.
Essay 8 ... Same as you
Essay 9 ... Evidence almost identical from what I can recall.
Essay 10 ... as we discussed.
For Essays 1-5 was ok with almost all of it. Like I mentioned, Fed Civ Pro I almost felt like it was too easy, like I missed something.
Essay 6... I overlooked the judgement amount on essay 6, which is disappointing.
Essay 7... I went with valid will, knocked out the contradictory terms from their marriage agreement. And like you said, basically dumped wills topics in there.
Essay 8 ... Same as you
Essay 9 ... Evidence almost identical from what I can recall.
Essay 10 ... as we discussed.
For Essays 1-5 was ok with almost all of it. Like I mentioned, Fed Civ Pro I almost felt like it was too easy, like I missed something.
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Glansberg88 wrote:I think we have many of the same answers, or at least issue spotting, which is half the battle.
Essay 6... I overlooked the judgement amount on essay 6, which is disappointing.
Essay 7... I went with valid will, knocked out the contradictory terms from their marriage agreement. And like you said, basically dumped wills topics in there.
Essay 8 ... Same as you
Essay 9 ... Evidence almost identical from what I can recall.
Essay 10 ... as we discussed.
For Essays 1-5 was ok with almost all of it. Like I mentioned, Fed Civ Pro I almost felt like it was too easy, like I missed something.
No you sound like you did great. I am more anxious about the MBE because I felt like many of the questions were subjective.
Essay 1.....pretty easy.....discussion of negligence with her fall, business relations, IIED, defamation, etc
2.....discussion of divorce, alimony, putative spouse
3....secured and commercial issues were really convuluted but I tried to parse them out.
4. Pretty simple...conspiracy, arson, murder, battery and more
5. PJ and SMJ. I struggled with this one the most. I also had the least amount of time on it. What'd you put?
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Essay 1.....pretty easy.....discussion of negligence with her fall, business relations, IIED, defamation, etc
2.....discussion of divorce, alimony, putative spouse
3....secured and commercial issues were really convuluted but I tried to parse them out.
4. Pretty simple...conspiracy, arson, murder, battery and more
5. PJ and SMJ. I struggled with this one the most. I also had the least amount of time on it. What'd you put?
1...spot on for sure
2...same
3...commercial i struggled with but secured i feel great about
4...same
5...PJ, SMJ, Venue and transfer. I sacrificed time on commercial paper to give myself more time on this one. Generally just went through PJ and if that failed, mentioned Venue and the possibility for transfer by the ct.
Sounds like you did awesome as well, again, unless we both blew all these. Either way I feel a bit better with the issues at minimum.
2.....discussion of divorce, alimony, putative spouse
3....secured and commercial issues were really convuluted but I tried to parse them out.
4. Pretty simple...conspiracy, arson, murder, battery and more
5. PJ and SMJ. I struggled with this one the most. I also had the least amount of time on it. What'd you put?
1...spot on for sure
2...same
3...commercial i struggled with but secured i feel great about
4...same
5...PJ, SMJ, Venue and transfer. I sacrificed time on commercial paper to give myself more time on this one. Generally just went through PJ and if that failed, mentioned Venue and the possibility for transfer by the ct.
Sounds like you did awesome as well, again, unless we both blew all these. Either way I feel a bit better with the issues at minimum.
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I also had things organized well. Sometimes I worry that I may have only had one or two sentences. But we don't need to write an essay for each issue, right?Glansberg88 wrote:Essay 1.....pretty easy.....discussion of negligence with her fall, business relations, IIED, defamation, etc
2.....discussion of divorce, alimony, putative spouse
3....secured and commercial issues were really convuluted but I tried to parse them out.
4. Pretty simple...conspiracy, arson, murder, battery and more
5. PJ and SMJ. I struggled with this one the most. I also had the least amount of time on it. What'd you put?
1...spot on for sure
2...same
3...commercial i struggled with but secured i feel great about
4...same
5...PJ, SMJ, Venue and transfer. I sacrificed time on commercial paper to give myself more time on this one. Generally just went through PJ and if that failed, mentioned Venue and the possibility for transfer by the ct.
Sounds like you did awesome as well, again, unless we both blew all these. Either way I feel a bit better with the issues at minimum.
I'm glad we both got similar. Hopefully it translates to passing.
Do you feel good about the MBE?
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I also had things organized well. Sometimes I worry that I may have only had one or two sentences. But we don't need to write an essay for each issue, right?
I'm glad we both got similar. Hopefully it translates to passing.
Do you feel good about the MBE?
I would have to agree my organization was key for me. I didn't jump around so much. Like you, at times wrote less, but maybe its more.
After reviewing I think I only left out a good discussion of Comm Paper. Obviously missed other minor topics but nothing to major, not enough to fail that essay portion.
For MBE I think I should have improved from my July score. I was scoring between 65-75% on every practice exam I took of mixed subjects. If I am at 130 raw I think I should be ok. But who knows, maybe I didn't write well or underperformed on the multiple choice, my AM session was brutal.
I'm glad we both got similar. Hopefully it translates to passing.
Do you feel good about the MBE?
I would have to agree my organization was key for me. I didn't jump around so much. Like you, at times wrote less, but maybe its more.
After reviewing I think I only left out a good discussion of Comm Paper. Obviously missed other minor topics but nothing to major, not enough to fail that essay portion.
For MBE I think I should have improved from my July score. I was scoring between 65-75% on every practice exam I took of mixed subjects. If I am at 130 raw I think I should be ok. But who knows, maybe I didn't write well or underperformed on the multiple choice, my AM session was brutal.
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I failed July by 1 point. I hope I did better on the MBE. I felt better about it. My PM felt harder. Questions were longer. I think that people on this forum made me more nervous....like I said that the flying rocket was abnormally dangerous and the said it was a battery. Just not sure about the MBE this time but last time I was def not confident AT ALL.Glansberg88 wrote:What about you on the MBE?
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ReachTheBar79 wrote:I failed July by 1 point. I hope I did better on the MBE. I felt better about it. My PM felt harder. Questions were longer. I think that people on this forum made me more nervous....like I said that the flying rocket was abnormally dangerous and the said it was a battery. Just not sure about the MBE this time but last time I was def not confident AT ALL.Glansberg88 wrote:What about you on the MBE?
Yeah really don't know what time expect. Hoping my essays were all ok. Good luck
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Good luck to you too!Glansberg88 wrote:ReachTheBar79 wrote:I failed July by 1 point. I hope I did better on the MBE. I felt better about it. My PM felt harder. Questions were longer. I think that people on this forum made me more nervous....like I said that the flying rocket was abnormally dangerous and the said it was a battery. Just not sure about the MBE this time but last time I was def not confident AT ALL.Glansberg88 wrote:What about you on the MBE?
Yeah really don't know what time expect. Hoping my essays were all ok. Good luck
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That's it huh? No one else took the exam in MA??
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Glad this thread exists. I agree with you guys on the issues generally so that is probably a good sign. I went overboard on the 93a one. Seemed all wrong to me that it could even be a 93a claim in the first place and was not willful or wanton so no double or treble but then again he knew it was not to code. However, there was a sign and the patron was being a dick acting like he owned the placing by leaning on a keep out sign.
I thought the last essays of each section were too short. Fed civ pro boiled down to basic SMJ, PJ and venue concepts that were too easy and short so I probably missed stuff. Same with the last essay on memo rulings related to con law. Basically just three paragraphs so I probably missed stuff there too.
I bungled the rules and priorities a bit on the sec trans comm paper combo. Those can be tough though so hopefully others did the same thing. Glad there was no property.
I just hope the graders are merciful and that we all pass!!!
I thought the last essays of each section were too short. Fed civ pro boiled down to basic SMJ, PJ and venue concepts that were too easy and short so I probably missed stuff. Same with the last essay on memo rulings related to con law. Basically just three paragraphs so I probably missed stuff there too.
I bungled the rules and priorities a bit on the sec trans comm paper combo. Those can be tough though so hopefully others did the same thing. Glad there was no property.
I just hope the graders are merciful and that we all pass!!!
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Big J wrote:Glad this thread exists. I agree with you guys on the issues generally so that is probably a good sign. I went overboard on the 93a one. Seemed all wrong to me that it could even be a 93a claim in the first place and was not willful or wanton so no double or treble but then again he knew it was not to code. However, there was a sign and the patron was being a dick acting like he owned the placing by leaning on a keep out sign.
I thought the last essays of each section were too short. Fed civ pro boiled down to basic SMJ, PJ and venue concepts that were too easy and short so I probably missed stuff. Same with the last essay on memo rulings related to con law. Basically just three paragraphs so I probably missed stuff there too.
I bungled the rules and priorities a bit on the sec trans comm paper combo. Those can be tough though so hopefully others did the same thing. Glad there was no property.
I just hope the graders are merciful and that we all pass!!!
Was actually disappointed there was no Property. I agree with you on Civ Pro (fed) and Con Law. Civ Pro just seemed way to simple to me too. Con Law almost made me wish it wasn't broken down the way it was.
Wouldn't worry about Sec. Trans and Comm Paper. I know a bunch of people who didn't get to the Comm Paper part or simply didn't know anything on it. Everyone was in it together on that specific one it seems.
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Anyone else on MA essays? Interested to hear test takers opinions about the 10.
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I had basically the same things for the morning.
The afternoon worries me a bit...
6. I missed that he couldnt take it from the jury
I mostly discussed the double damages and willful wanton conduct under 93a
7. I wasnt sure if they could k for the fertilized eggs so i didnt discuss it at all
I put that he couldnt add things to the will by hand but could only revoke by act ( touching the words)
8. I talked about parole evidence but wondered if there was no meeting of the minds so no valid k
But i didnt discuss it bc i ran out of time
The corp part i put derivative suit but will lose (BJR)
9. I put the same things
10. I totally flubbed up part 2
I totally missed vagueness and discussed crim pro (auto standing & searching her) i'm freaking out right now! I only had 15 mins left so i just panicked!
The afternoon worries me a bit...
6. I missed that he couldnt take it from the jury
I mostly discussed the double damages and willful wanton conduct under 93a
7. I wasnt sure if they could k for the fertilized eggs so i didnt discuss it at all
I put that he couldnt add things to the will by hand but could only revoke by act ( touching the words)
8. I talked about parole evidence but wondered if there was no meeting of the minds so no valid k
But i didnt discuss it bc i ran out of time
The corp part i put derivative suit but will lose (BJR)
9. I put the same things
10. I totally flubbed up part 2

I totally missed vagueness and discussed crim pro (auto standing & searching her) i'm freaking out right now! I only had 15 mins left so i just panicked!
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Sps2016 wrote:I had basically the same things for the morning.
The afternoon worries me a bit...
6. I missed that he couldnt take it from the jury
I mostly discussed the double damages and willful wanton conduct under 93a
7. I wasnt sure if they could k for the fertilized eggs so i didnt discuss it at all
I put that he couldnt add things to the will by hand but could only revoke by act ( touching the words)
8. I talked about parole evidence but wondered if there was no meeting of the minds so no valid k
But i didnt discuss it bc i ran out of time
The corp part i put derivative suit but will lose (BJR)
9. I put the same things
10. I totally flubbed up part 2![]()
I totally missed vagueness and discussed crim pro (auto standing & searching her) i'm freaking out right now! I only had 15 mins left so i just panicked!
I definitely would not worry so much about 1/3 con law essay. I am sure you did fine on it. I think it sounds like you did well, what did you do on the Fed Civ Pro analysis on 5? SMJ, PJ, Venue?
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