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How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by iwantmybar » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:06 am

Hi,

I'm just preparing the bar with Adaptibar and some textbooks so there is a real lack of questions on civ pro for me.

Any idea where I can find any good civ pro questions?

I heard that the ones from adaptibar does not represent at all the reality of the thing, what are yo thoughts?

thanks

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by NY_Sea » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:35 am

iwantmybar wrote:Hi,

I'm just preparing the bar with Adaptibar and some textbooks so there is a real lack of questions on civ pro for me.

Any idea where I can find any good civ pro questions?

I heard that the ones from adaptibar does not represent at all the reality of the thing, what are yo thoughts?

thanks
You're in the same boat as everyone else... Civ Pro only got added to the MBE recently (want to say Feb 2015), so there's no real MBE questions for Civ Pro out there.

Just have to know the stuff and adapt, really... The adaptibar questions test a lot of stuff, so I would trust them+your bar prep to get us where we need to be.

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by BVest » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:52 am

NCBEX has a handful of sample questions. I feel like those were more representative of what was on July 2015 than what Barbri had (not that you can blame Barbri for not guessing correctly). Barbri's questions focused a lot more on the common law issues than the actual questions did (i.e. Barbri was heavier on Personal Jdxn and Erie, while actual MBE was heavier on FRCP (e.g. # of days to do X), 28 USC, and SM Jdxn). That's not to say that Erie and PJ did not arise on the MBE, just that it wasn't that big a focus.

ETA: See http://www.ncbex.org/exams/mbe/preparing/ about halfway down the page. 10 questions with answer key and explanations.

ETA2: You might look to 1L sources, too, such as Civ Pro Q&A. It says it has over 300 questions but does not say what the breakdown between MC/short answer is. I had the prior version of this for 1L and I recall each topic ranging from very basic to more exam-like.
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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by ilovetheatre » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:07 pm

Kaplan's Civ Pro MBE Qs were very similar to the ones on the actual MBE.

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by DueProcessDoWheelies » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:39 pm

I found the Adaptibar Civ Pro questions to be very, very difficult (much more so than other subjects). Lots of the questions, if you look at the student response breakdown, were answered correctly by less than half of the students. I actually thought Barbri had good questions.

In July 2015 I remember there being an annoyingly large number of claim/issue preclusion questions too.

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by AMCD » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:24 pm

I agree that the Adaptibar civ pro questions were far harder than what was on the July exam (I passed California in July), but there's nothing wrong with that. I just made sure I noted everything I got wrong and wrote those items down and reviewed them daily and kept a working list that I reviewed the night before the MBE. I scored high enough to waive into two other jxs. Also, I did supplement civ pro with the Adaptibar lecture by Grossman. I found it well worth the added cost. I made short notes (a mini outline of sorts) while listening to the lecture and reviewed those before doing the civ pro questions. Also, they break up the lecture into great components that you can review and re-listen to whenever you want. I definitely found the actual civ pro questions to be quite straightforward after Adaptibar's prep. He covers issue preclusion (mentioned by another poster) very clearly and succinctly. Good luck!

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by JulyTXBar » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:38 pm

I used Glannon's learning civil procedure through multiple choice.

http://www.amazon.com/Glannon-Guide-Civ ... 1454827467

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by BVest » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:38 pm

Youppi wrote:I found this book helpful:

[Civ Pro Q&A]
Yeah, that's the one I recommended above, although there's a 2015 edition.
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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:19 pm

Get that issue/claim preclusion thing down straight. MBE hits you with annoying answer choices like:

1) X will not be precluded from re-litigating the issue, because the issue was not essential to the judgement
2) X will be precluded from re-litigating the claim, because the claims are not identical
3) X will be precluded from re-litigating the issue, because the issue was not actually litigated
4) X will not be precluded from re-litigating the claim, because X was not a a party to the original case.

its very easy to get your mind all twisted up after reading all those answer choices.

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by Calberry » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:47 pm

Are there any differences between 2012 and 2015 civil procedure Q and A book? NCBE says the Amendments of 12/2/15 will be reflected on July 2016 MBE. http://www.ncbex.org/news/amendments-to ... er-1-2015/
Effective with 2/2017 administration, real property coverage will be modified. http://www.ncbex.org/news/future-change ... d-the-mee/

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by BVest » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:33 pm

Calberry wrote:Are there any differences between 2012 and 2015 civil procedure Q and A book? NCBE says the Amendments of 12/2/15 will be reflected on July 2016 MBE. http://www.ncbex.org/news/amendments-to ... er-1-2015/
Effective with 2/2017 administration, real property coverage will be modified. http://www.ncbex.org/news/future-change ... d-the-mee/
Well, there's Daimler and Walden, at the minimum. Plus the 2015 book says it contains over 300 questions while the 2012 says over 200. Of course that could mean the difference between 301 and 299, but who knows.
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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by myrtlewinston » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:56 am

I'm doing what another poster suggested: learning the subject as best as I can.

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by redblueyellow » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:05 am

AMCD wrote:I scored high enough to waive into two other jxs.
Which ones if you don't mind my asking?

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by AMCD » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:05 pm

DC and Minnesota -- the only other one you can waive into, I believe, is Nebraska for which you have to have over a 150!

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by StaceyS » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:09 am

JulyTXBar wrote:I used Glannon's learning civil procedure through multiple choice.

http://www.amazon.com/Glannon-Guide-Civ ... 1454827467

Thanks!! Ordered this today. :D

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by iwantmybar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:54 pm

God, still struggling with that topic :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by redblueyellow » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:11 am

AMCD wrote:DC and Minnesota -- the only other one you can waive into, I believe, is Nebraska for which you have to have over a 150!
Good to know, thanks! How does waiving into a state work without knowing your MBE score in advance (CA)?

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Re: How to train for MBE civ procedure?

Post by BarTaker » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:46 am

AMCD wrote:DC and Minnesota -- the only other one you can waive into, I believe, is Nebraska for which you have to have over a 150!
DC = 133
Minnesota = 145
North Dakota = 150
Maine = If got 155 only Q's 1 & 2 of Attorney's bar exam required.

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