July 2016 Texas Bar Exam Forum

[Estecontre]

Just talked to Allison at the BLE. She claims the one v. two means nothing. This goes along with them claiming results are not finalized yet, so probably true.

I was under the impression that results are known weeks in advance. Is that not true?

I'm not sure the results are known weeks in advance, maybe a week or two. I don't think they're still "finalizing" results as they say however. I've asked a close relative who's very big into the I.T. world and deals with systems/databases, which includes dealing with system transitions and patches (such as switching from eFast to Atlas), he told me that most likely the e-mails were sent as a test of the new system (whether or not they would actually reach the person, if it would generate the e-mails like they would and how many times an e-mail needed to be sent, hence why some people received one e-mail and some received two e-mails with different reference numbers). It was all a test and e-mails like that aren't "inadvertently sent." They definitely meant to send them.

So are you speculating that they are testing the number of e-mails that can be sent to an individual? Thus 2 e-mails equals a fail, and 1 e-mail equals a pass.

Let me squash this before it gets out of control. I was totally kidding, I, just like most of us here, am anxious for the bar results to be released. Maybe somebody who has received results before can enlighten us whether or not it's all in one e-mail or two e-mails (in that case, you can probably tell by the size of the e-mail or pdf or however they send results when they are finally released, just like people said in the NY bar results thread). Most likely the one vs. two e-mails means absolutely nothing, but I do speculate that the results are ready or just about ready and they are still not "finalized" whatever that means (probably just means crossing their t's and dotting their i's) and the e-mails were not sent inadvertently. The e-mails were most likely sent as a test of the system and some of us received one e-mail, while others two.

Edit: Forgot to answer your question. No, I'm not speculating that they are testing the number of e-mails that can be sent to a person (if you can send one, it should be safe to assume you can send two). However, I am speculating that they were most likely testing the system and whether or not the e-mail could be sent and whether or not the e-mail would be received. It could also be a test to see whether or not we had our profile up-to-date (making sure the e-mail we have on file is still in use).

[ultravires4life]

Just talked to Allison at the BLE. She claims the one v. two means nothing. This goes along with them claiming results are not finalized yet, so probably true.

I was under the impression that results are known weeks in advance. Is that not true?

I'm not sure the results are known weeks in advance, maybe a week or two. I don't think they're still "finalizing" results as they say however. I've asked a close relative who's very big into the I.T. world and deals with systems/databases, which includes dealing with system transitions and patches (such as switching from eFast to Atlas), he told me that most likely the e-mails were sent as a test of the new system (whether or not they would actually reach the person, if it would generate the e-mails like they would and how many times an e-mail needed to be sent, hence why some people received one e-mail and some received two e-mails with different reference numbers). It was all a test and e-mails like that aren't "inadvertently sent." They definitely meant to send them.

So are you speculating that they are testing the number of e-mails that can be sent to an individual? Thus 2 e-mails equals a fail, and 1 e-mail equals a pass.

Let me squash this before it gets out of control. I was totally kidding, I, just like most of us here, am anxious for the bar results to be released. Maybe somebody who has received results before can enlighten us whether or not it's all in one e-mail or two e-mails (in that case, you can probably tell by the size of the e-mail or pdf or however they send results when they are finally released, just like people said in the NY bar results thread). Most likely the one vs. two e-mails means absolutely nothing, but I do speculate that the results are ready or just about ready and they are still not "finalized" whatever that means (probably just means crossing their t's and dotting their i's) and the e-mails were not sent inadvertently. The e-mails were most likely sent as a test of the system and some of us received one e-mail, while others two.

Edit: Forgot to answer your question. No, I'm not speculating that they are testing the number of e-mails that can be sent to a person (if you can send one, it should be safe to assume you can send two). However, I am speculating that they were most likely testing the system and whether or not the e-mail could be sent and whether or not the e-mail would be received. It could also be a test to see whether or not we had our profile up-to-date (making sure the e-mail we have on file is still in use).

Okay, thank you for clarifying. Just ready for this to be over with.

[Estecontre]

Just talked to Allison at the BLE. She claims the one v. two means nothing. This goes along with them claiming results are not finalized yet, so probably true.

I was under the impression that results are known weeks in advance. Is that not true?

I'm not sure the results are known weeks in advance, maybe a week or two. I don't think they're still "finalizing" results as they say however. I've asked a close relative who's very big into the I.T. world and deals with systems/databases, which includes dealing with system transitions and patches (such as switching from eFast to Atlas), he told me that most likely the e-mails were sent as a test of the new system (whether or not they would actually reach the person, if it would generate the e-mails like they would and how many times an e-mail needed to be sent, hence why some people received one e-mail and some received two e-mails with different reference numbers). It was all a test and e-mails like that aren't "inadvertently sent." They definitely meant to send them.

So are you speculating that they are testing the number of e-mails that can be sent to an individual? Thus 2 e-mails equals a fail, and 1 e-mail equals a pass.

Let me squash this before it gets out of control. I was totally kidding, I, just like most of us here, am anxious for the bar results to be released. Maybe somebody who has received results before can enlighten us whether or not it's all in one e-mail or two e-mails (in that case, you can probably tell by the size of the e-mail or pdf or however they send results when they are finally released, just like people said in the NY bar results thread). Most likely the one vs. two e-mails means absolutely nothing, but I do speculate that the results are ready or just about ready and they are still not "finalized" whatever that means (probably just means crossing their t's and dotting their i's) and the e-mails were not sent inadvertently. The e-mails were most likely sent as a test of the system and some of us received one e-mail, while others two.

Edit: Forgot to answer your question. No, I'm not speculating that they are testing the number of e-mails that can be sent to a person (if you can send one, it should be safe to assume you can send two). However, I am speculating that they were most likely testing the system and whether or not the e-mail could be sent and whether or not the e-mail would be received. It could also be a test to see whether or not we had our profile up-to-date (making sure the e-mail we have on file is still in use).

Okay, thank you for clarifying. Just ready for this to be over with.

Of course, no problem

We're all in the same boat, well at least most of us here. The waiting sucks and we try to cling onto each little thing we hear from the BLE. Thank God that wait is almost over.

[mavshoosiers]

just checking in...received 2 emails as well

[NolanRyan]

Checking in. I got two.

[SuperPollito]

One email here, but had previously set up my Atlas account.

Does anyone know whether the results post to Atlas in advance of the list going live on the website, i.e., is there time to duck out of the office and head to the bar if you are about to be publicly shamed?

[NolanRyan]

Didn't sleep last night. What does the emails mean?!?!?!

[fly_lawy3r]

Didn't sleep last night. What does the emails mean?!?!?!

We have not finalized bar exam results yet, and the e-mail you received has nothing to do with your results.

[chuckfin0808]

One email here, but had previously set up my Atlas account.

Does anyone know whether the results post to Atlas in advance of the list going live on the website, i.e., is there time to duck out of the office and head to the bar if you are about to be publicly shamed?

Unfortunately no. From what I remember about the last time. Justice Willett sends out a warning tweet with an approximate time results will be out and he will say "THIS IS NOT A DRILL." Then he will send another tweet when they are posted. They are posted on the site at the same time as they are posted in your account.

From what I remember (and I searched my email to be sure) you don't get your results letter by email. It's just posted in your account and if you fail, a second document is posted with your score breakdown. I remember reading the list, then checking my account, never getting an email. You also get a letter by snail mail the following week.

This may be different on the new ATLAS account. The day is also a little foggy to me since it obviously was a bad day... the drinking didn't help either...

Just make sure you are following Justice Willett on November 3rd. The results usually come out a day earlier than they anticipate.

[NolanRyan]

Didn't sleep last night. What does the emails mean?!?!?!

We have not finalized bar exam results yet, and the e-mail you received has nothing to do with your results.

...Finally breathes lol

[lonestarlaw]

Checking in. Anybody else trying to bill today but thinking Thursday/Friday might be your last day in the office if you didn't pass? Dramatic, I know, but the waiting and doubt is tough. Also, gotta love bar related dreams.

I lolled at the email discussion above. Fwiw (nothing) I only got one email.

Hope others are doing better than me w/all of this.

[Stevoman]

Went though this last year, and can also confirm that Justice Willett's tweets are the only reliable tea leaves you can read. Everything else from the BLE is just routine communication.

[LittleJohnBull]

Went though this last year, and can also confirm that Justice Willett's tweets are the only reliable tea leaves you can read. Everything else from the BLE is just routine communication.

I second this. But I understand the temptation to look for tea leaves everywhere else. I figure it's the mind trying to process all the stress and grueling anticipation.

Speaking of which... I was fine over Halloweekend, but now that I'm at work, the fear is really setting in. Starting to remember everything I did wrong on the exam. Ugh. Sending lots of positive vibes out there to you guys.

[SuperPollito]

Speaking of tea leaves, my Atlas account has my start and complete date as Oct. 27, but today I now see they downloaded my application on the 31st (today), whatever that means. If Thursday (or Friday) could hurry up please....

[bigcat]

Speaking of tea leaves, my Atlas account has my start and complete date as Oct. 27, but today I now see they downloaded my application on the 31st (today), whatever that means. If Thursday (or Friday) could hurry up please....

That's weird, mine says the 27th straight across. Did yours previously say it was downloaded on the 27th, and they changed it to the 31st? Or was it just blank before?

[lonestarlaw]

+1 for the 27th straight across.

[maztastic247]

Mine says 27th across the board as well.

[LadyMary]

LOL now this is going to be another round of "1 vs. 2 emails"...

Sending tranquility vibes to everyone!! I've never been so nervous about anything. Can others pipe in who are currently at a firm? That's honestly what I'm most worried about. The looks. The whispers. THE SHAME.

[lonestarlaw]

Lady, that's exactly where I am. I don't know my firm's policy on this-- and I've been too afraid to ask. Of course I'd hope they'd simply let me retake in feb if the worst came to fruition, but that would be a painful and embarrassing series of months in the interim. I know I'd still be freaking out about it if I wasnt already working, but the thought of everyone asking/knowing is very scary. I know it is not helpful at all to think like that, but here I am.

[chuckfin0808]

LOL now this is going to be another round of "1 vs. 2 emails"...

Sending tranquility vibes to everyone!! I've never been so nervous about anything. Can others pipe in who are currently at a firm? That's honestly what I'm most worried about. The looks. The whispers. THE SHAME.

If your job isn't dependent on you passing the bar, it really isn't as bad as you think. The shame really is all in your head. There are a lot of attorneys/judges who have taken the bar more than once. I've worked at a firm since graduation. For me, everyone was genuinely encouraging. No pity party, just move forward.

I'm hoping you won't need this advice, but if you fail, just take the weekend to recuperate and then come up with a new study plan. Your score breakdown will tell you what you need to work on for next time.

[tx0910]

Speaking of tea leaves, my Atlas account has my start and complete date as Oct. 27, but today I now see they downloaded my application on the 31st (today), whatever that means. If Thursday (or Friday) could hurry up please....

That's weird, mine says the 27th straight across. Did yours previously say it was downloaded on the 27th, and they changed it to the 31st? Or was it just blank before?

Mine says 31st too. Ugh now I'm paranoid

[CYP]

Mine says the 27th straight across the board as well.

[Estecontre]

Speaking of tea leaves, my Atlas account has my start and complete date as Oct. 27, but today I now see they downloaded my application on the 31st (today), whatever that means. If Thursday (or Friday) could hurry up please....

That's weird, mine says the 27th straight across. Did yours previously say it was downloaded on the 27th, and they changed it to the 31st? Or was it just blank before?

Mine says 31st too. Ugh now I'm paranoid

Did y'all receive the e-mail the 27th saying your user home page had been updated? This would be the day of the great 1 vs 2 e-mail debate.

FWIW mine is also 27th straight across and I received 1 e-mail.

[mavshoosiers]

27th across the board for me as well

[ultravires4life]

A two-emailer here rolling with straight 27s.