MBE - how'd you feel? Forum

[somuchbooty]

Let's agree that all of us will call them daily for progress on grading until results are released in protest.

But seriously, why does it take 2 1/2 months to grade this shit? Scantrons take an hour.

In Alabama they told us not to call for results before September 24th on penalty of death.

In Virginia our handwriting sample was a statement stating that we would not call the Virginia Board of Bar Examiners to ask about our scores.

lol we were told to write in cursive and then after I wrote the most embarrassing cursive of all time, they said printing was okay.

[nyny]

Went into the ny state day discussion to just check things out, and have told myself I will never do that again, lol. Just a cluster of wrong law, right law, and made up law... that made me nauseous, lol. I can stomach the stuff in the MBE thread.

[jaysnooginz]

Let's agree that all of us will call them daily for progress on grading until results are released in protest.

But seriously, why does it take 2 1/2 months to grade this shit? Scantrons take an hour.

In Alabama they told us not to call for results before September 24th on penalty of death.

In Virginia our handwriting sample was a statement stating that we would not call the Virginia Board of Bar Examiners to ask about our scores.

Lol. That is humorous.

[Kiwi3891]

Glad to hear everyone thought this test was weird. So many D answers and Earnest Money.

To paraphrase Radioactive Man: "My Score! The MBE Prep does nothing!"

OMG I was getting worried that I was getting SO many Ds...

[gr8scOtt!]

Let's agree that all of us will call them daily for progress on grading until results are released in protest.

But seriously, why does it take 2 1/2 months to grade this shit? Scantrons take an hour.

In Alabama they told us not to call for results before September 24th on penalty of death.

In Virginia our handwriting sample was a statement stating that we would not call the Virginia Board of Bar Examiners to ask about our scores.

Uh, in MD we were told that we'd get scores on November 6th. Sooo... I think you guys can patiently wait until September 24th

[Nanosoft]

After the MBE, I feel like sentencing the Barbri CEO to a term of imprisonment beyond the statutory maximum based on an aggravating factor. Unfortunately, if the jury doesn't make that finding BRD, that would violate his constitutional rights... right?

Dear lord am I fucked....

[musicfor18]

After the MBE, I feel like sentencing the Barbri CEO to a term of imprisonment beyond the statutory maximum based on an aggravating factor. Unfortunately, if the jury doesn't make that finding BRD, that would violate his constitutional rights... right?

Yes. If a statute provides aggravating factors that raise the minimum or maximum sentence, those facts (like using a gun) have to be found by a jury beyond a reasonable doubt to satisfy the 6th Am. The only exception is the fact of prior convictions.

[musicfor18]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

[jaysnooginz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=91&v=s3X5Uqp_2qk


That will make you all feel better.

[odoylerulez]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

I guess I shouldn't assume, but I'm inclined to believe one of the last two. Even the smartest people that I know don't feel great about it -- some think it's on par with some of the more difficult bar company stuff (like Kaplan's MBE final, which was designed to be difficult), but that's about as optimistic as it gets.

If one didn't think this MBE was nasty, it's probably because they weren't knowledgeable enough to spot how advanced and nuanced a lot of these questions were.

[LAW813FL]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

[jadasistgoodja]

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[musicfor18]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

Yep.

[odoylerulez]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions. Civil Procedure was terrible on this exam.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

[musicfor18]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

I don't remember there being that many contract formation questions, but I definitely don't remember a lot of the questions. Seemed like tons of remedies questions. And, yeah, not that much hearsay, and very little estates.

[LAW813FL]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions. Civil Procedure was terrible on this exam.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

Ya this was my take on it too...I only really remember one hearsay question but there were probably more, definitely not as many as Kaplan said...civ pro was a hit and miss too in a way. Crim pro was pretty on but crim law was definitely weird to me

[spacecaps]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions. Civil Procedure was terrible on this exam.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

pretty sure i got almost every civ pro question wrong. was expecting way more SMJ and/or PJ questions

[odoylerulez]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions. Civil Procedure was terrible on this exam.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

Ya this was my take on it too...I only really remember one hearsay question but there were probably more, definitely not as many as Kaplan said...civ pro was a hit and miss too in a way. Crim pro was pretty on but crim law was definitely weird to me

Crim Law was definitely weird. Where were all the theft crime/homicide questions?? One strange embezzlement question, robbery tied into one other question, and I might remember one larceny question but I'm foggy on that. I don't think there was a single homicide question in the A.M. either. Might have been a small handful in the afternoon but again my memory is shaky.

[musicfor18]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions. Civil Procedure was terrible on this exam.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

Ya this was my take on it too...I only really remember one hearsay question but there were probably more, definitely not as many as Kaplan said...civ pro was a hit and miss too in a way. Crim pro was pretty on but crim law was definitely weird to me

The civ pro big ticket items were definitely post-judgment relief, appealability, and juries. I also felt like there were several full faith and credit questions, but maybe there was only one. No easy diversity our removal questions, and almost no joinder, supplemental jurisdiction, and pre-trial motions.

I was also surprised how many questions there were generally that required you to know specific Supreme Court cases.

[odoylerulez]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I thought there were a fair amount of Formation, Negligence, Mortgage, Con Law Individual Rights, and Crim Pro Constitutional Rights questions. That's what Kaplan toted as big ticket items for us.

It didn't feel like there were too many Hearsay questions though -- maybe a small handful. And, the Civ Pro big ticket item predictions were way off. I think I only remember 4 Jurisdiction/Venue questions. Civil Procedure was terrible on this exam.

I expected more Estates in Land questions too and I only remember 1 of those from the entire day. Maybe 2.

Ya this was my take on it too...I only really remember one hearsay question but there were probably more, definitely not as many as Kaplan said...civ pro was a hit and miss too in a way. Crim pro was pretty on but crim law was definitely weird to me

The civ pro big ticket items were definitely post-judgment relief, appealability, and juries. I also felt like there were several full faith and credit questions, but maybe there was only one. No easy diversity our removal questions, and almost no joinder, supplemental jurisdiction, and pre-trial motions.

I think I remember one diversity question. One pre-trial motion question too. Lots of appeals stuff though. And yeah, several jury trial questions -- two of which were near identical. Was not ready for that in the least.

[jaysnooginz]

Meh mbe.

[zot1]

Who are these people who said in the poll that it was easier than they expected? Geniuses, dufuses, or flames?

It almost felt like they purposefully tested around the "big ticket items" and had way more fringe issues and nuances that none of the bar companies really stressed

I was just thinking how I want to punch them. Hard.

[bmonroe]

Went into the ny state day discussion to just check things out, and have told myself I will never do that again, lol. Just a cluster of wrong law, right law, and made up law... that made me nauseous, lol. I can stomach the stuff in the MBE thread.

Lol! I feel the same way ! I'm like hell naw! Let me get out of this thread before I kill myself

[victortsoi]

To think I spent all summer learning about joint tenancy and easements.

[Kiwi3891]

So are you saying both of these are battery? One is chair pulling out I can't remember the other. In neither was there "harmful or offensive contact" so I thought all the claims likely to fail but at least IIED was possible.

I thought IIED for the non-chair one.

same.

doesnt NIED revolve around the zone of danger for the 3rd party? I thought battery was a better option. Remember reading the case as a 1L.