Upcoming MPRE--when to start studying? Forum

[ZyzzBrah]

Anyone taking the MPRE coming up on the 29th?


Or have any advice on how long is too long to study (I've heard that the answer is essentially "don't study much"? Good luck to everyone taking it!

[OutCold]

I put in about 6-8 hours over the two days before. Watched the Bar Bri lecture, read the shortened outline twice, then did one of the practice tests. Based on the result, I probably could have gotten away with less.

[hiima3L]

I didn't study at all the first time and failed by 5 points.

So I studied hard for about 2 days and passed by ~30pts the second time.

[sparty99]

Anyone taking the MPRE coming up on the 29th?


Or have any advice on how long is too long to study (I've heard that the answer is essentially "don't study much"? Good luck to everyone taking it!

I would study for a week.

[lawyerwannabe]

Anyone taking the MPRE coming up on the 29th?


Or have any advice on how long is too long to study (I've heard that the answer is essentially "don't study much"? Good luck to everyone taking it!

I would study for a week.

This is probably overkill. But probably also the approach you should take if you would like to be safe rather than sorry. IMO two solid days of studying right before the test is more than sufficient to pass.

[ilovesf]

3 hours the day before

[thegrayman]

If you put in ~15 hours of studying you should easily pass all states. Just take it seriously once and you'll never have to deal with it again.

[DildaMan]

Do the practice tests in the BarBri book and you should be fine (~8 hours).

[sparty99]

What is the approximate percentage of questions that you have to get right to pass? I know it varies by state. But ballpark.

[dreakol]

What is the approximate percentage of questions that you have to get right to pass? I know it varies by state. But ballpark.

i think i read 32-38 somewhere

[Lwoods]

What is the approximate percentage of questions that you have to get right to pass? I know it varies by state. But ballpark.

i think i read 32-38 somewhere

32-38 questions, not percent. Though technically you could get 28 out of 60 and pass in some jurisdictions (assuming 10 of the questions you miss are the experimental questions), you'll want to be comfortably over 50% accuracy, preferably at least 60% for most jurisdictions...

I found more up-to-date data on the raw score one might need to achieve a passing scaled score in his or her jurisdiction.

Per Susan M. Case, PhD (Director of Testing for the National Conference of Bar Examiners) in a March 2011 column entitled "Common Goals with Increasingly Similar Outcomes: Jurisdiction Approaches to Bar Exam Grading, Scoring, and Standards":

While there is some variability from one administration to the next, a score of 100 reflects a performance of approximately 68 percent correct. The current standards used by jurisdictions reflect lower performance levels: 85 is approximately 60 percent correct; 80 is approximately 58 percent correct; 75 is approximately 56 percent correct. The difference between an 85 and an 86, for example, is less than one question.

Source: http://www.ncbex.org/assets/media_files ... Column.pdf (See p. 3 "MPRE Passing Standard")

Raw | Scaled Score Conversion according to NCBEX's Director of Testing is approximately:
56% Raw (28/50) = 75 Scaled
58% Raw (29/50) = 80 Scaled
60% Raw (30/50) = 85 Scaled
68% Raw (34/50) = 100 Scaled

*I guess that's why Barbri recommends the 32-38 range to be safe because it probably puts a test taker above the scaled score of 86--the most any jurisdiction requires. I broke down the raw numbers out of 50 since 10 of the questions on the MPRE are experimental.

For those of us who studied with MPRE practice exams, this might give us an idea of how our raw percentages convert to scaled scores (approximately, at least). I hope this helps.

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[OfThriceandTen]

i just got a 40% on themis (30q test) and 71% on barbri (60q test, where the questions were about four-thousand percent more decipherable). someone tell me that themis is ttt and i'm gonna pass and can stop studying so i can go out tonight pls.

[Lwoods]

i just got a 40% on themis (30q test) and 71% on barbri (60q test, where the questions were about four-thousand percent more decipherable). someone tell me that themis is ttt and i'm gonna pass and can stop studying so i can go out tonight pls.

Review your wrong answers on Barbri and then go out. I was scoring about the same on Barbri and passed by a very comfortable margin.

[bouakedojo]

Does anyone else think that the BarBri questions are harder than the actual MPRE questions from the website?

Please say yes because my future is banking on this....

[Tanicius]

The Themis questions are fucking outrageously hard. How can I access the BarBri questions if I'm not signed up for their bar prep course?

[bouakedojo]

The Themis questions are fucking outrageously hard. How can I access the BarBri questions if I'm not signed up for their bar prep course?

Couldn't answer that myself. I signed up a couple of weeks ago and paid $10 to ship a book to me. I think that, or getting one from your BarBri rep is the only way.

[ZyzzBrah]

Does anyone else think that the BarBri questions are harder than the actual MPRE questions from the website?

Please say yes because my future is banking on this....

The questions do, indeed, appear to be on very odd exceptions that weren't mentioned in the lecture. So you're not alone--i did tests 1 and 2 and was getting like 15-18 wrong, which was like a 70%

Good luck everyone!!

[skw]

I took the MPRE last year, but back then I was able to register online for both Kaplan and BarBri for free to access their e-courses.

[OfThriceandTen]

I took the MPRE last year, but back then I was able to register online for both Kaplan and BarBri for free to access their e-courses.

yea i signed up for barbri for free and got immediate access to lecture + exams.

Does anyone else think that the BarBri questions are harder than the actual MPRE questions from the website?

Please say yes because my future is banking on this....

holy shit the ones on the mpre site are easy. ok. glad to see that after i spent my night watching college bball at a friend's.

[Jackie U]

Do the practice tests in the BarBri book and you should be fine (~8 hours).

Thumbs up on that one.

[jarofsoup]

Took this in August--key thing:

you don't have to do good, you just have to do average. The bottom side of average.

[OfThriceandTen]

welp fuck all of that noise. we find out in 5 weeks?

[Mosherman]

Thought it was much harder than the BARBRI practice tests. Do not feel good at all. Any thoughts on this particular exam's difficulty?

[ZyzzBrah]

^^ I thought some questions were difficult. I was honestly expecting more "obvious" type questions.

[ap1987]

I think I failed honestly. Much harder than I expected.