Barbri paced program question? Forum

[banjooooo]

I am still struggling with timing. If anybody have a useful tip, please share.

I'm not sure if you've posted about this earlier with things you've tried (so I'm sorry if this is redundant) but the SFE lecturer has this tip that she keeps going on about in each of the videos I've seen her do. She suggests using a piece of scratch paper and making two columns - one for "I kind of know and selected an answer, but I want to come back" and one for "I have no freaking idea/the question is too long/I skipped it."

Basically, as you're taking the test, if it's a really long fact pattern just by glancing, the call of the question sounds totally unfamiliar to you, etc., she says just bubble in a random choice and put it in your second column. Don't bother reading it or thinking about it. Then move forward. The idea is to just totally skip the ones that look ugly, and come back if you can (which you should be able to, she says).

Other than that, are you reading the call of the question first? That helps focus your reading of the facts, but you have to be careful not to let it trick you into making up your mind. I think the best thing is to just keep practicing. Aim for 17 in 30 mins if you don't want to do a bigger set and set a timer that'll give you a 5-minute warning.

I do a similar thing to what the SFE lecturer suggested, except with questions that I'm not sure about I make a mark by the number. I underline ones I'm iffy on and circle the ones that I have no clue about. It's quicker than making a checklist and is easy to reference back to. Instead of dwelling on a question I just guess, mark it, and move on. A lot of the time when I go back and check, it turns out my instinct was right anyway. Just make sure you mark lightly so you can erase it before time is called.

[peanut123]

I am still struggling with timing. If anybody have a useful tip, please share.

I'm not sure if you've posted about this earlier with things you've tried (so I'm sorry if this is redundant) but the SFE lecturer has this tip that she keeps going on about in each of the videos I've seen her do. She suggests using a piece of scratch paper and making two columns - one for "I kind of know and selected an answer, but I want to come back" and one for "I have no freaking idea/the question is too long/I skipped it."

Basically, as you're taking the test, if it's a really long fact pattern just by glancing, the call of the question sounds totally unfamiliar to you, etc., she says just bubble in a random choice and put it in your second column. Don't bother reading it or thinking about it. Then move forward. The idea is to just totally skip the ones that look ugly, and come back if you can (which you should be able to, she says).

Other than that, are you reading the call of the question first? That helps focus your reading of the facts, but you have to be careful not to let it trick you into making up your mind. I think the best thing is to just keep practicing. Aim for 17 in 30 mins if you don't want to do a bigger set and set a timer that'll give you a 5-minute warning.

I do a similar thing to what the SFE lecturer suggested, except with questions that I'm not sure about I make a mark by the number. I underline ones I'm iffy on and circle the ones that I have no clue about. It's quicker than making a checklist and is easy to reference back to. Instead of dwelling on a question I just guess, mark it, and move on. A lot of the time when I go back and check, it turns out my instinct was right anyway. Just make sure you mark lightly so you can erase it before time is called.

Yeah I do that as well in my exam book. I think it works well but if I totally skip one and haven't read it at all, it might be helpful to have an extra reminder (on the scratch paper) that those are ultra high-priority to return to first.

[alicrimson]

Is anyone using the mixed sets for review? I have done four, and they seem kinda silly. I mean, I read that the average for barbri testers was 67% and most of the averages on the mixed sets are 72%, but it just seems really really easy, and I don't want to be doing them if it won't be beneficial. Though, I would LOVE if they were representative of the difficulty of the MBE. Any thoughts?

Also, for timing, I like what that Rafael Guzman guy said. 17 every 30 minutes. I usually start doing this and then somehow wind up finishing around an hour early, but that is my plan in case emergencies happen on the test. That, and I plan on circling ones where I'm at WTF levels and starring ones that I'd like to come back to for a bit of review--I'm talking to you long property hypos where you have to think about whether RAP could apply.

[jd20132013]

i did one mixed set already. i may or may not do one today. if im going to do questions that are MBE dificulty I might rather just do them from the Emanuels book

[pizzasodafries]

Is anyone using the mixed sets for review? I have done four, and they seem kinda silly. I mean, I read that the average for barbri testers was 67% and most of the averages on the mixed sets are 72%, but it just seems really really easy, and I don't want to be doing them if it won't be beneficial. Though, I would LOVE if they were representative of the difficulty of the MBE. Any thoughts?

Also, for timing, I like what that Rafael Guzman guy said. 17 every 30 minutes. I usually start doing this and then somehow wind up finishing around an hour early, but that is my plan in case emergencies happen on the test. That, and I plan on circling ones where I'm at WTF levels and starring ones that I'd like to come back to for a bit of review--I'm talking to you long property hypos where you have to think about whether RAP could apply.

I did three sets, got between 38-41 on each of them, felt I was better off reviewing materials than taking more of these since they felt a bit too easy

[Flips88]

Did 2 mixed sets yesterday and got 40 and 38 on them where the target goals were 36 and 33 respectively. They are definitely a lot more straightforward than the regular ones and hopefully that's how the real MBE is. There are some questions I got wrong and learned something from it, e.g. that for mortgages life tenants pay the interest and remaindermen pay the principal.

[MoneyMay]

Is anyone using the mixed sets for review? I have done four, and they seem kinda silly. I mean, I read that the average for barbri testers was 67% and most of the averages on the mixed sets are 72%, but it just seems really really easy, and I don't want to be doing them if it won't be beneficial. Though, I would LOVE if they were representative of the difficulty of the MBE. Any thoughts?

Also, for timing, I like what that Rafael Guzman guy said. 17 every 30 minutes. I usually start doing this and then somehow wind up finishing around an hour early, but that is my plan in case emergencies happen on the test. That, and I plan on circling ones where I'm at WTF levels and starring ones that I'd like to come back to for a bit of review--I'm talking to you long property hypos where you have to think about whether RAP could apply.

I did three sets, got between 38-41 on each of them, felt I was better off reviewing materials than taking more of these since they felt a bit too easy

Same... I got like a 42 on one of them and haven't gone back and have been trying to just memorize my lecture handouts. PLEASE GOD LET THE REAL MBE BE LIKE THIS.

[jd20132013]

Anyone want to talk about how they're studying for the essay stuff?

right now I'm doing something in between an outline and a full writeout of the questions. don't want to spend too much time but also need to get a feel for how to make up law.

i'm reviewing flashcards intermittently, but I feel like there are holes in the flashcard coverage. don't know if I should be reading thru the lecture handouts, but I don't really feel like i learn much from those...

[pizzasodafries]

Anyone want to talk about how they're studying for the essay stuff?

right now I'm doing something in between an outline and a full writeout of the questions. don't want to spend too much time but also need to get a feel for how to make up law.

i'm reviewing flashcards intermittently, but I feel like there are holes in the flashcard coverage. don't know if I should be reading thru the lecture handouts, but I don't really feel like i learn much from those...

I have an outline that is exactly the Handouts minus the hypos. So with these outlines I can review the handouts in half the time since at this point if you need Hypos to explain this shit your screwed on that topic.

Also going over the Hacked Essays thing a little after reviewing each topic.

[MoneyMay]

Anyone want to talk about how they're studying for the essay stuff?

right now I'm doing something in between an outline and a full writeout of the questions. don't want to spend too much time but also need to get a feel for how to make up law.

i'm reviewing flashcards intermittently, but I feel like there are holes in the flashcard coverage. don't know if I should be reading thru the lecture handouts, but I don't really feel like i learn much from those...

I have an outline that is exactly the Handouts minus the hypos. So with these outlines I can review the handouts in half the time since at this point if you need Hypos to explain this shit your screwed on that topic.

Also going over the Hacked Essays thing a little after reviewing each topic.

I also have a list of rules I've made of the essays from the past 10 years. At this point I am just trying to memorize as many rules as I can, under the theory that I can bullshit my way to minimum competency if I can at least somewhat know the applicable rule.

[jd20132013]

yep as i review the essay answers I am putting the rules into flashcards...who knows if its the best way

[The Egyptian]

Is anyone using the mixed sets for review? I have done four, and they seem kinda silly. I mean, I read that the average for barbri testers was 67% and most of the averages on the mixed sets are 72%, but it just seems really really easy, and I don't want to be doing them if it won't be beneficial. Though, I would LOVE if they were representative of the difficulty of the MBE. Any thoughts?

Also, for timing, I like what that Rafael Guzman guy said. 17 every 30 minutes. I usually start doing this and then somehow wind up finishing around an hour early, but that is my plan in case emergencies happen on the test. That, and I plan on circling ones where I'm at WTF levels and starring ones that I'd like to come back to for a bit of review--I'm talking to you long property hypos where you have to think about whether RAP could apply.

I did three sets, got between 38-41 on each of them, felt I was better off reviewing materials than taking more of these since they felt a bit too easy

Same... I got like a 42 on one of them and haven't gone back and have been trying to just memorize my lecture handouts. PLEASE GOD LET THE REAL MBE BE LIKE THIS.

AMIN

[jd20132013]

just opened my critical pass flashcards. at this point im not going to do more than 25 mbe's a day if that. anyone who has used these can speak to their efficacy? good way to stay fresh on MBE?

[july14bar]

just opened my critical pass flashcards. at this point im not going to do more than 25 mbe's a day if that. anyone who has used these can speak to their efficacy? good way to stay fresh on MBE?

I think critical pass has been incredible. Comparing those to my self-made flashcards for state subjects, the difference is night and day-- in coverage and lay out/ease of use. They have everything from my Barbri outlines plus a few fairly important notes that aren't in the lecture handouts (for example, my Barbri lecture didn't cover receipt of stolen property or larceny by trick). I think they're the perfect balance between the lecture handouts and the CMR.

I really think that I'd be fine on the MBE with just critical pass and adaptibar (or the Emanuel's books). If I could have found used copies of the Barbri state essay book and CMR, I could've saved myself a few grand for bar review.

[jd20132013]

thanks. I'll use them heavily over the next few days in lieu of problem sets

[jrf12886]

Is anyone using the mixed sets for review? I have done four, and they seem kinda silly. I mean, I read that the average for barbri testers was 67% and most of the averages on the mixed sets are 72%, but it just seems really really easy, and I don't want to be doing them if it won't be beneficial. Though, I would LOVE if they were representative of the difficulty of the MBE. Any thoughts?

Also, for timing, I like what that Rafael Guzman guy said. 17 every 30 minutes. I usually start doing this and then somehow wind up finishing around an hour early, but that is my plan in case emergencies happen on the test. That, and I plan on circling ones where I'm at WTF levels and starring ones that I'd like to come back to for a bit of review--I'm talking to you long property hypos where you have to think about whether RAP could apply.

I did three sets, got between 38-41 on each of them, felt I was better off reviewing materials than taking more of these since they felt a bit too easy

Same... I got like a 42 on one of them and haven't gone back and have been trying to just memorize my lecture handouts. PLEASE GOD LET THE REAL MBE BE LIKE THIS.

I'm hoping to do all the mixed sets. On the first 4 sets, I got 84%, 96%, 82%, 88%.

Obviously they're easier than the other Barbri sets (to compare I got a 62% on the SFE and a 75% on the full day MBE). I really hope the real MBE questions are closer to these mixed sets...but who knows.

[ZyzzBrah]

fwiw, I've done 7 sets of the mixed questions


I thought 1-5 were easy-ish

but 6-7 were throwing me for some reason



Anyone do those free sets on barprephero? I've done a few and they are way too easy IMO--but hopefully its just because barbri uses hard questions

[encore1101]

fwiw, I've done 7 sets of the mixed questions


I thought 1-5 were easy-ish

but 6-7 were throwing me for some reason



Anyone do those free sets on barprephero? I've done a few and they are way too easy IMO--but hopefully its just because barbri uses hard questions

I did like 50 of the barprephero.. I agree, they're way too easy. They might have been good as review after lecture notes, or for learning the material, but too easy at this stage.

[The Egyptian]

fwiw, I've done 7 sets of the mixed questions


I thought 1-5 were easy-ish

but 6-7 were throwing me for some reason



Anyone do those free sets on barprephero? I've done a few and they are way too easy IMO--but hopefully its just because barbri uses hard questions

I did like 50 of the barprephero.. I agree, they're way too easy. They might have been good as review after lecture notes, or for learning the material, but too easy at this stage.

Wow guys

Looking at the page after having my ambian/melanin to declared war on MB tom from tomorrow and from barbri + some additional reliable sources.

What's your game

[The Egyptian]

fwiw, I've done 7 sets of the mixed questions


I thought 1-5 were easy-ish

but 6-7 were throwing me for some reason



Anyone do those free sets on barprephero? I've done a few and they are way too easy IMO--but hopefully its just because barbri uses hard questions

I did like 50 of the barprephero.. I agree, they're way too easy. They might have been good as review after lecture notes, or for learning the material, but too easy at this stage.

Wow guys

Looking at the page after having my ambian/melanin to declared war on MB tom from tomorrow and from barbri + some additional reliable sources.

What's your game

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is con

Lol i did one where a guy mounted a flatscreen tv on the ceiling about his bed and "The next night, a woman who was the man’s overnight guest was seriously injured when the television came loose and fell on the bed."

I remember cringing as I got a few lines down and realized the guy seriously bolted the TV to his ceiling

Lol i did one where a guy mounted a flatscreen tv on the ceiling about his bed and "The next night, a woman who was the man’s overnight guest was seriously injured when the television came loose and fell on the bed."

I remember cringing as I got a few lines down and realized the guy seriously bolted the TV to his ceiling

Lol i did one where a guy mounted a flatscreen tv on the ceiling about his bed and "The next night, a woman who was the man’s overnight guest was seriously injured when the television came loose and fell on the bed."

I remember cringing as I got a few lines down and realized the guy seriously bolted the TV to his ceiling

cerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

He did it again? he was there last year too!
TV Junkie........

[The Egyptian]

fwiw, I've done 7 sets of the mixed questions


I thought 1-5 were easy-ish

but 6-7 were throwing me for some reason



Anyone do those free sets on barprephero? I've done a few and they are way too easy IMO--but hopefully its just because barbri uses hard questions

I did like 50 of the barprephero.. I agree, they're way too easy. They might have been good as review after lecture notes, or for learning the material, but too easy at this stage.

Wow guys

Looking at the page after having my ambian/melanin to declared war on MB tom from tomorrow and from barbri + some additional reliable sources.

What's your game

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is concerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

On the REAL mbe false pretenses is NEVER the answer-BARBRI cost me two questions over the course of two OPE sets bc I applied their dumb logic as to what title to property was. As far as NCBE is con

Lol i did one where a guy mounted a flatscreen tv on the ceiling about his bed and "The next night, a woman who was the man’s overnight guest was seriously injured when the television came loose and fell on the bed."

I remember cringing as I got a few lines down and realized the guy seriously bolted the TV to his ceiling

Lol i did one where a guy mounted a flatscreen tv on the ceiling about his bed and "The next night, a woman who was the man’s overnight guest was seriously injured when the television came loose and fell on the bed."

I remember cringing as I got a few lines down and realized the guy seriously bolted the TV to his ceiling

Lol i did one where a guy mounted a flatscreen tv on the ceiling about his bed and "The next night, a woman who was the man’s overnight guest was seriously injured when the television came loose and fell on the bed."

I remember cringing as I got a few lines down and realized the guy seriously bolted the TV to his ceiling

cerned title is more in your face than barbri led me to believe.

He did it again? he was there last year too!
TV Junkie........

I have a vision of those guys who shot the infomercial and try to connect donation on tv, take a footage about us in the exam day, and playing Lorena McKnight in the backgrounds.

Bar exam candidate in distress. We don't want your money, we just want your players......

And eeeeevvveeerrrryyy body huuuuuuuuuurts

[sundance95]

The ambien detail makes me think troll, but whether true our false this is 180

[The Egyptian]

The ambien detail makes me think troll, but whether true our false this is 180

No. It's 190

[RPK34]

Ok, I'm fairly behind, but Torts Question set 5. Some employee takes a job at a mental institution with dangerous individuals. The employee doesn't read the instruction manual. Then, he leaves the door unlocked. Some dangerous person escapes, and badly injures someone. And Barbri says the employee is not negligent?

Sometimes Barbri is just a bag of suck.

[OklahomasOK]

Ok, I'm fairly behind, but Torts Question set 5. Some employee takes a job at a mental institution with dangerous individuals. The employee doesn't read the instruction manual. Then, he leaves the door unlocked. Some dangerous person escapes, and badly injures someone. And Barbri says the employee is not negligent?

Sometimes Barbri is just a bag of suck.

All StudySmart sets 5 & 6 are bags of crap. So many "oh this is a better answer" or really suspect reasoning. Especially in Torts 6, some of their Duty, Breach, Causation, Damages, logic is really poor. Take your scores on 5 & 6 with the largest possible grain of salt. I stopped doing them because I was developing bad habits thinking novation, BER, and other red herrings were correct answers. The mixed sets are a better representation of what the actual MBE will be.