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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by Georgia Avenue » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:46 pm

Flips88 wrote:Think it was in here, there was the discussion on the guy who drove on the owner's land and crashed into the poisonous snake pit and got bitten...doing the AMP review of torts and it was for an undiscovered trespasser to recover for a wild animal attack, he must show the defendant was negligent.
Did not know that. Makes sense now since the problem said the snakes were legal to own by statute.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

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ceereeus420 wrote:Federal Jurisdiction is Civ Pro, right? It seems like the exact same thing to me, but I want to make sure I'm not missing something because I am about to start reviewing the CALI lessons I did 1L year. The "actively review lecture notes" doesn't cut it for me, I need something interactive.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by The Egyptian » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:59 pm

encore1101 wrote:do what i did and follow prof. franseze on twitter. yesterday's gem "Emotions follow your rhetoric-Instead of 'I am sick of this' try 'I am on the edge of glory-I've earned the right to be here-I've got this'"



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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by The Egyptian » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:04 am

I am sorry if it's my ADD making me ask again.

Did any of you guys compare his/her areas of strength and weekens between Barbri and other source like Kaplan or ncbe?

I am going crazy in loops no.

I even feel like Mubarak at the night of revolution pleading my 5th!

Scores are high and low totally different than how my scores are on barbri!

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by jd20132013 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:11 pm

where did people generally score on the SFE? I can't complain about my score but I'd like to compare where I am so I can see how much to focus on essays now. i got a 66 and i recall seeing at least one or two other 66s. obviously this is above the target score but not so much so that it's obvious that i should throw everything on essays


would have been helpful for this to also be online submit so that we could see if we had maintained our percentages.

also wtf at the Con law questions that literally asked about questions that are currently still open (50, 55, and at least one other, I think 72)

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Post by sundance95 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:22 pm

jd20132013 wrote:
also wtf at the Con law questions that literally asked about questions that are currently still open (50, 55, and at least one other, I think 72)
This! One of the questions was literally the issue in Town of Greece, which obviously just came down, and barbri guessed wrong on how the court would hold. Bs.

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Post by pkt63 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:29 pm

sundance95 wrote:
jd20132013 wrote:
also wtf at the Con law questions that literally asked about questions that are currently still open (50, 55, and at least one other, I think 72)
This! One of the questions was literally the issue in Town of Greece, which obviously just came down, and barbri guessed wrong on how the court would hold. Bs.
I scream every time I have to answer that someone cannot use the Free Exercise Clause to challenge a neutral law of general applicability. IF ONLY!

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by jd20132013 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:30 pm

pkt63 wrote:
sundance95 wrote:
jd20132013 wrote:
also wtf at the Con law questions that literally asked about questions that are currently still open (50, 55, and at least one other, I think 72)
This! One of the questions was literally the issue in Town of Greece, which obviously just came down, and barbri guessed wrong on how the court would hold. Bs.
I scream every time I have to answer that someone cannot use the Free Exercise Clause to challenge a neutral law of general applicability. IF ONLY!

what do you mean? isn't that the right answer?

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Post by Flips88 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:37 pm

I think he's getting at that it's the constitutional answer, but under RFRA there's a cause of action against laws of general applicability that substantially burden the exercise of religion, e.g. the Hobby Lobby challenge to the birth control mandate.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by ceereeus420 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:41 pm

jd20132013 wrote:where did people generally score on the SFE? I can't complain about my score but I'd like to compare where I am so I can see how much to focus on essays now. i got a 66 and i recall seeing at least one or two other 66s. obviously this is above the target score but not so much so that it's obvious that i should throw everything on essays


would have been helpful for this to also be online submit so that we could see if we had maintained our percentages.

also wtf at the Con law questions that literally asked about questions that are currently still open (50, 55, and at least one other, I think 72)
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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by encore1101 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:24 pm

The Egyptian wrote:
encore1101 wrote:do what i did and follow prof. franseze on twitter. yesterday's gem "Emotions follow your rhetoric-Instead of 'I am sick of this' try 'I am on the edge of glory-I've earned the right to be here-I've got this'"



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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by encore1101 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:25 pm

jd20132013 wrote:where did people generally score on the SFE? I can't complain about my score but I'd like to compare where I am so I can see how much to focus on essays now. i got a 66 and i recall seeing at least one or two other 66s. obviously this is above the target score but not so much so that it's obvious that i should throw everything on essays


would have been helpful for this to also be online submit so that we could see if we had maintained our percentages.

also wtf at the Con law questions that literally asked about questions that are currently still open (50, 55, and at least one other, I think 72)
66, but i'm also running on 3 hours of sleep for a few weeks now and finished with an hour to spare :|

i missed some really easy ones just because i didn't read the question thoroughly.. i think that's going to be a huge problem for me on game day.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by sundance95 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:05 pm

encore1101 wrote: 66, but i'm also running on 3 hours of sleep for a few weeks now and finished with an hour to spare :|
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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by jd20132013 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:37 pm

what the hell is the deal with the state's ability to tax the federal government? Can they do it or not? The questions up to now had suggested this was an "Intergovernmental Immunity Issue" but SFE question 21 says that indirect nondiscriminatory taxes levied by the states on the federal government or its property are permissible.

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Post by pkt63 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:48 pm

jd20132013 wrote:what the hell is the deal with the state's ability to tax the federal government? Can they do it or not? The questions up to now had suggested this was an "Intergovernmental Immunity Issue" but SFE question 21 says that indirect nondiscriminatory taxes levied by the states on the federal government or its property are permissible.
Well, i think the key is probably "indirect". Because direct is never ok. But if some like park ranger is going into town to buy some supplies for his little outpost, he still has to pay sales tax on his purchases, even if he's using gov money. Because it's not really taxing the federal gov per se, it's just a tax that's applied to everyone...

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by The Egyptian » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:27 pm

pkt63 wrote:
jd20132013 wrote:what the hell is the deal with the state's ability to tax the federal government? Can they do it or not? The questions up to now had suggested this was an "Intergovernmental Immunity Issue" but SFE question 21 says that indirect nondiscriminatory taxes levied by the states on the federal government or its property are permissible.
Well, i think the key is probably "indirect". Because direct is never ok. But if some like park ranger is going into town to buy some supplies for his little outpost, he still has to pay sales tax on his purchases, even if he's using gov money. Because it's not really taxing the federal gov per se, it's just a tax that's applied to everyone...

I think they are trying to say that:
-A state can levy a tax on the incomes of a federal government employee, if he live in that state.
-A state can also levy a sales tax on a the revenue earned by a private from a commercial property on a federal land or property(Think of the kiosk of souvenirs in the national mall)

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Post by beachbum » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:57 pm

Having one of those days where it's impossible to stay focused.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

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beachbum wrote:Having one of those days where it's impossible to stay focused.
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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by beachbum » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:39 pm

I've decided that if commercial paper or secured transactions comes up in the essays, my answer is going to consist of a frowny face shedding a single tear.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by pkt63 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:44 pm

Hey you know how in torts an intervening criminal act sometimes cuts off liability (supervening act?) maybe because they are unforeseeable? And sometimes they don't cut off, because they are foreseeable intervening acts? Can I get some examples of each to be able to tell the difference (and also correction to any misstatement I made)? TIA!

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

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pkt63 wrote:Hey you know how in torts an intervening criminal act sometimes cuts off liability (supervening act?) maybe because they are unforeseeable? And sometimes they don't cut off, because they are foreseeable intervening acts? Can I get some examples of each to be able to tell the difference (and also correction to any misstatement I made)? TIA!
I'm pretty sure here, the wrongful conviction would be suerpseding cause to the house exploding

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by Law-So-Hard » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:23 pm

If the superseding intervening act was made more possible or likely as a result of the original tortfeasor's negligence then it's a proximate cause of the breach of their duty.

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Post by ditch digger » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:31 pm

beachbum wrote:I've decided that if commercial paper or secured transactions comes up in the essays, my answer is going to consist of a frowny face shedding a single tear.
All I know about commercial paper is that a promissory note can still be negotiable if the maker signs with a frowny face shedding a single tear.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by jd20132013 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:31 pm

So. After going through the answers and explanations for the SFE I think I'm going to go 80/20 to essays for the remaining time. Feel like I may be getting close to my ceiling there. a couple of the ones I got right I got right because I wasn't aware of the slightly-less esoteric exception they were trying to trick me into picking rather than the even more esoteric exception that controlled.


Definitely not worth watching these videos to hear them talk about these exceptions that probably won't even be on the test.

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Re: Barbri paced program question?

Post by Law-So-Hard » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:35 pm

jd20132013 wrote:So. After going through the answers and explanations for the SFE I think I'm going to go 80/20 to essays for the remaining time. Feel like I may be getting close to my ceiling there. a couple of the ones I got right I got right because I wasn't aware of the slightly-less esoteric exception they were trying to trick me into picking rather than the even more esoteric exception that controlled.


Definitely not worth watching these videos to hear them talk about these exceptions that probably won't even be on the test.
same I planned to do 50-100 MCQs daily this week but only hitting around 50, and I'm sticking to the mixed subject tests for Barbri and the Kaplan problems. the full day/half day tests were hard as F*** and really demoralizing. the kaplan big red book is good for quick rule recall and drills on particular areas. the Barbri subject question sets and Drill sets (under practice problems on the site) are good, too.

Focusing a lot on essays too because they help w/ memorization of the essay topics.

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