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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ultimolugar » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:41 pm

a_bowler_hat wrote:i did the first MBE mixed problem set today and did alright! at the end, i went through and identified specific areas i know i need some work in and it seems like most of it is just memorization. can anyone recommend a good method for memorizing those areas that have been particularly difficult to get in your head? there's gotta be a better way than just reading the big outline and jotting some notes down.
I'm three deep myself. 60 is my average. How are you doing?

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by hogfan1991 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:53 pm

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Easy-E wrote:Well the graded property essay kicked my ass. Fuck mortgages.
complete disaster, you aren't alone.
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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by AlanShore » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:29 am

rambleon65 wrote:For MA people...

anyone take the graded essay on domestic relations and had a part about in-vitro fertilization?


...holy shit.
ha, I dont think anyone got it. Also, the relevant law wasnt even in the book/long outline so....... oh well. :roll:

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by unidentifiable » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:40 am

my graded evidence essay was so balls.

time to wallow in self pity all day now.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Easy-E » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:38 am

What's the logic behind the vicious watchdog exception? I get the rule and all, it just seems stupid. Someone trespasses and your king cobra attacks them, no strict liability. But WAIT, you had an ORNERY TERRIER? Fuck you, pay up you goddamn psychopath.
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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ndp1234 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:41 am

Easy-E wrote:What's the logic behind the vicious watchdog exception? I get the rule and all, it just seems stupid. Someone trespasses and your king cobra attacks them, no strict liability. But WAIT, you had an ORNERY TERRIER? Fuck you, pay up you goddamn psychopath.
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I equate it to the prohibition regarding deadly force to protect property. The common law presumes that a vicious watchdog has one purpose - to keep people out by the use of dangerous force, and thus liability attaches.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Easy-E » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:45 am

ndp1234 wrote:
Easy-E wrote:What's the logic behind the vicious watchdog exception? I get the rule and all, it just seems stupid. Someone trespasses and your king cobra attacks them, no strict liability. But WAIT, you had an ORNERY TERRIER? Fuck you, pay up you goddamn psychopath.
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I equate it to the prohibition regarding deadly force to protect property. The common law presumes that a vicious watchdog has one purpose - to keep people out by the use of dangerous force, and thus liability attaches.
Ahh, makes sense I guess.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Easy-E » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:12 am

Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ultimolugar » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:06 pm

Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Yuck. I thought Florida was fucking lame with Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper as testable essays. I can't even begin to fathom the thought of an evidence essay. Sounds absolutely dreadful.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Fivedham » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:15 pm

Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Themis had a graded Pennsylvania essay where one question turned on a critical exception in employment law (third party retaliation claims) that wasn't covered at all in either the lecture or the long outline. So there's that.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Chardee_MacDennis » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:18 pm

ultimolugar wrote:
Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Yuck. I thought Florida was fucking lame with Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper as testable essays. I can't even begin to fathom the thought of an evidence essay. Sounds absolutely dreadful.
I thought the evidence essay was relatively straightforward. Not too bad.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by a_bowler_hat » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:07 pm

ultimolugar wrote:
a_bowler_hat wrote:i did the first MBE mixed problem set today and did alright! at the end, i went through and identified specific areas i know i need some work in and it seems like most of it is just memorization. can anyone recommend a good method for memorizing those areas that have been particularly difficult to get in your head? there's gotta be a better way than just reading the big outline and jotting some notes down.
I'm three deep myself. 60 is my average. How are you doing?
I got around a 70 on the first set but lucked out by not getting any mortgage questions. I'm sure that will change as soon as those start popping up.

BTW: any fellow CA takers do the graded con law essay yet today? good fucking god that thing hid the ball.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Nebby » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:30 pm

Chardee_MacDennis wrote:
ultimolugar wrote:
Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Yuck. I thought Florida was fucking lame with Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper as testable essays. I can't even begin to fathom the thought of an evidence essay. Sounds absolutely dreadful.
I thought the evidence essay was relatively straightforward. Not too bad.
I really don't know how you can get a straight shot with a laser into a pilot's eye. Seems fake

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by luxxe » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:52 pm

Chardee_MacDennis wrote:
ultimolugar wrote:
Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Yuck. I thought Florida was fucking lame with Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper as testable essays. I can't even begin to fathom the thought of an evidence essay. Sounds absolutely dreadful.
I thought the evidence essay was relatively straightforward. Not too bad.
Same. Mine was on an inmate and guard. Some evidence essays have def been harder, but I'll take evidence over property or Ks any day.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by rambleon65 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:01 pm

I don't know if i'm just getting irritated by bar prep but the way Jeffries says "defenDAANTs" and "PRO-cess" really gets on my nerves.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ndp1234 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:19 pm

rambleon65 wrote:I don't know if i'm just getting irritated by bar prep but the way Jeffries says "defenDAANTs" and "PRO-cess" really gets on my nerves.
He actually starts to sound normal when you put him in 2.5X :mrgreen:

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Chardee_MacDennis » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:26 pm

Nebby wrote:
Chardee_MacDennis wrote:
ultimolugar wrote:
Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Yuck. I thought Florida was fucking lame with Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper as testable essays. I can't even begin to fathom the thought of an evidence essay. Sounds absolutely dreadful.
I thought the evidence essay was relatively straightforward. Not too bad.
I really don't know how you can get a straight shot with a laser into a pilot's eye. Seems fake
Yeah, that was dumb, but the questions were pretty straightforward.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Easy-E » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:40 pm

Nebby wrote:
Chardee_MacDennis wrote:
ultimolugar wrote:
Easy-E wrote:Fuck that alligator question in torts PQs #4.


Also Themis telling me to do the graded evidence essay when I haven't even seen a lecture. Sounds fun.
Yuck. I thought Florida was fucking lame with Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper as testable essays. I can't even begin to fathom the thought of an evidence essay. Sounds absolutely dreadful.
I thought the evidence essay was relatively straightforward. Not too bad.
I really don't know how you can get a straight shot with a laser into a pilot's eye. Seems fake
Maybe the pilot was Tom Cruise and he was inverted

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by alicen » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:41 pm

a_bowler_hat wrote:
ultimolugar wrote:
a_bowler_hat wrote:i did the first MBE mixed problem set today and did alright! at the end, i went through and identified specific areas i know i need some work in and it seems like most of it is just memorization. can anyone recommend a good method for memorizing those areas that have been particularly difficult to get in your head? there's gotta be a better way than just reading the big outline and jotting some notes down.
I'm three deep myself. 60 is my average. How are you doing?
I got around a 70 on the first set but lucked out by not getting any mortgage questions. I'm sure that will change as soon as those start popping up.

BTW: any fellow CA takers do the graded con law essay yet today? good fucking god that thing hid the ball.
Just did this. Am sure I failed....I was not anywhere near most of the sample answer.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Easy-E » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:19 pm

Ugh, I love when I a PQ set is just "hey look at these exceptions we didn't cover in the lecture you lazy shit".

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by xdeuceswild81xx » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:27 pm

I can see some light. Finishing up MBE Crim Law + MBE Crim Pro lectures this weekend. Finally, will be done with lectures on MBE subjects.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Easy-E » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:59 pm

Struggling with MBE Evidence lectures. Guy barely follows the script and I can't seem to follow him at anything past 2.0x.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by Rlabo » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:48 pm

Reviewing UBE real property, reading section on mortgages, and automatically thought "big sexy." Kramer FTW.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by xdeuceswild81xx » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:50 pm

Easy-E wrote:Struggling with MBE Evidence lectures. Guy barely follows the script and I can't seem to follow him at anything past 2.0x.
I watch all the vids at 2.0x w/captions and pause as necessary, but I watched Evidence at 1.5x, just bc of the sheer volume of information. It was too hard to wrap my head around all the rules and exceptions at high speed. I had a great evidence professor as well, so it was mostly review, but even still, 2.0x was just too fast for me personally.

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Re: Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016

Post by ndp1234 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:58 pm

Easy-E wrote:Ugh, I love when I a PQ set is just "hey look at these exceptions we didn't cover in the lecture you lazy shit".
+1

Yeah, the explanations are worded like, "under the exception you should know but we never told you about..."

Pissed me off.

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