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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by mtyler19 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:45 pm

Abbeymubby wrote:I selected the same answer too out of desperation because everything else didn't add up.
My method for most of the afternoon session :(

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by jamescastle » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:50 pm

Had a friend in middle/high school that when he didn't know the answer to a multiple choice question would slam his fingers across the edge of the desk and whichever finger hurt the most would be what he put down.
Made for some interesting test taking with him.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by atcushman » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:11 pm

I don't know about you guys but I don't think barbri did anything to help me on any of this. None of there top secret insight and test tips seemed relevant and I don't think anything else was beneficial enough to justify the cost. I'm not saying that bc I felt like I did poorly I feel like I crushed the mbe but thanks to adaptibar def not Barbris ? and did well enough to pass on the mee because I outlined and read conviser.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Abbeymubby » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:22 pm

What about the guy who moved out of apartment removing the carpet.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:23 pm

Abbeymubby wrote:What about the guy who moved out of apartment removing the carpet.

ugh that was a hard one for me. I said tenant can't do that.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by atcushman » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:43 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:
Abbeymubby wrote:What about the guy who moved out of apartment removing the carpet.

ugh that was a hard one for me. I said tenant can't do that.
I knew "a" rule about exp of the lease but couldn't remember if it only applied to commercial leases

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by gwuorbust » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:46 pm

atcushman wrote:I don't know about you guys but I don't think barbri did anything to help me on any of this. None of there top secret insight and test tips seemed relevant and I don't think anything else was beneficial enough to justify the cost. I'm not saying that bc I felt like I did poorly I feel like I crushed the mbe but thanks to adaptibar def not Barbris ? and did well enough to pass on the mee because I outlined and read conviser.
I feel like there was a lot of material on the MBE that simply wasn't in barbri. Not saying the questions were harder than barbri, but if the material isn't in the outline how can I learn it?

Though looking at this and the other thread is driving me crazy. Some Qs I now think I nailed, some are making me wish I hadn't gone online tonight.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Sue » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:47 pm

atcushman wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
Abbeymubby wrote:What about the guy who moved out of apartment removing the carpet.

ugh that was a hard one for me. I said tenant can't do that.
I knew "a" rule about exp of the lease but couldn't remember if it only applied to commercial leases
I guessed it was about the fixture rule, and said the tenant should remove if before the end of the lease term.

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Post by BrokenMouse » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:50 pm

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by MrMustache » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:02 am

BrokenMouse wrote:
DueProcessDoWheelies wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:Morning of the MBE felt pretty rough to me. What say you all?
I thought the opposite. AM was fine for me, PM felt much harder
I took it in CA and I thought the morning session was heaven. Then PM happened and I wanted to cry.

Also I had AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA somewhere but I took a deep breath knowing July 2015 had similar pattern
Maybe it depends on the version or something, but I had a row of BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB thet was starting to freak me out.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Abbeymubby » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:11 am

Yes PM was brutal for me too. I also had a line of about 7 As following each other on the PM and that got me thinking what the hell is going on.

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Post by law732 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:16 am

Abbeymubby wrote:Yes PM was brutal for me too. I also had a line of about 7 As following each other on the PM and that got me thinking what the hell is going on.
Also had a bunch of A's in the PM...

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Post by BrokenMouse » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:17 am

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Abbeymubby » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:36 am

Almost similar fact pattern on the MEE yesterday rrharding a cop testifying as to a witnesses statement during interview

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Diceman102 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:49 am

BrokenMouse wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
atcushman wrote:I don't know about you guys but I don't think barbri did anything to help me on any of this. None of there top secret insight and test tips seemed relevant and I don't think anything else was beneficial enough to justify the cost. I'm not saying that bc I felt like I did poorly I feel like I crushed the mbe but thanks to adaptibar def not Barbris ? and did well enough to pass on the mee because I outlined and read conviser.
I feel like there was a lot of material on the MBE that simply wasn't in barbri. Not saying the questions were harder than barbri, but if the material isn't in the outline how can I learn it?

Though looking at this and the other thread is driving me crazy. Some Qs I now think I nailed, some are making me wish I hadn't gone online tonight.
I learned this quickly last year that Barbri makes up so many question in really nuanced and obscure area of law that not even NCBE tests. I felt totally unprepared for the July 2015 MBE. This time I never even opened the Barbri MBE book nor ever did their homework.

So I purchased the Emanuel MBE Strategy book and did some Kaplan MBE. Emanuel book saved my life. I actually recognized most of the questions in the AM exam to my giant surprise. Also the NCBE mofos used the same question word by word from a previous exam. Cops using radar is always a hearsay if cop doesn't have personal knowledge and he is just reading shit on the screen.
i don't think testifying about what the radar gun said is hearsay, given that the radar gun wan't an out of court human declarant. it would be admissible as non-hearsay evidence as to the speed.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by BrokenMouse » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:23 am

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by MrMustache » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:28 am

BrokenMouse wrote:Noob Question: Is this a sale of goods K or a services K?

A rich guy makes a written contract with a shipbuilder to build a ship for $2 million. Building this boat will take about a year. The ship is going to be quite luxurious.

I think a boat qualifies as goods no? But then again is it for the service of building a boat?
All or nothing rule. You'd need to analyze what the most important part of the contract was. Why were they entering into contract? To build the boat, or to have it sold? From your example, I think it's building the boat, so I'd say service contract.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by BrokenMouse » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:40 am

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Post by StaceyS » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:27 am

editing out other people's quotes...
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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by BVest » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:20 am

BrokenMouse wrote:Also the NCBE mofos used the same question word by word from a previous exam. Cops using radar is always a hearsay if cop doesn't have personal knowledge and he is just reading shit on the screen.
Sprinkling in the same questions from a previous exam (specifically from the last two exams) is how they normalize from one exam to another. They take the performance on those questions and compare it to the performance when the questions were originally asked and that's how they determine if the overall scaled scores on this exam will be higher or lower than previous exams.
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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Gamecubesupreme » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:19 am

BVest wrote:
BrokenMouse wrote:Also the NCBE mofos used the same question word by word from a previous exam. Cops using radar is always a hearsay if cop doesn't have personal knowledge and he is just reading shit on the screen.
Sprinkling in the same questions from a previous exam (specifically from the last two exams) is how they normalize from one exam to another. They take the performance on those questions and compare it to the performance when the questions were originally asked and that's how they determine if the overall scaled scores on this exam will be higher or lower than previous exams.
Does that mean those questions are considered "experimental" too?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by BVest » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:09 pm

Gamecubesupreme wrote:
BVest wrote:
BrokenMouse wrote:Also the NCBE mofos used the same question word by word from a previous exam. Cops using radar is always a hearsay if cop doesn't have personal knowledge and he is just reading shit on the screen.
Sprinkling in the same questions from a previous exam (specifically from the last two exams) is how they normalize from one exam to another. They take the performance on those questions and compare it to the performance when the questions were originally asked and that's how they determine if the overall scaled scores on this exam will be higher or lower than previous exams.
Does that mean those questions are considered "experimental" too?
I don't know. Though, without reading the article, this article would imply that they are actually scored questions, considering NCBE is concerned that they may affect the scores of retakers.
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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by bball700 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:42 pm

If I failed that shit - fuck Barbri. I was top of my class at a T-20. I studied my ASS off, did every available Barbri question and those questions were NOTHING like Barbri. I went like 20+ in a row not knowing one for sure on PM.

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Post by ladylawyer1221 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:49 pm

bball700 wrote:If I failed that shit - fuck Barbri. I was top of my class at a T-20. I studied my ASS off, did every available Barbri question and those questions were NOTHING like Barbri. I went like 20+ in a row not knowing one for sure on PM.
Try not to worry about it (I know, easier said than done). I studied my ass off last July, and walked out of the MBE feeling like I had studied for the wrong exam all summer. I got a 118 on the simulated MBE, but somehow got a 152.5 on the real thing. I didn't think the real questions felt anything like Barbri questions, and had to guess randomly between 2 answers.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by THE_U » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:56 pm

law732 wrote:
Abbeymubby wrote:Yes PM was brutal for me too. I also had a line of about 7 As following each other on the PM and that got me thinking what the hell is going on.
Also had a bunch of A's in the PM...
I had a bunch in the AM.

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