February 2015 Bar Exam Forum

[MichBar]

I just keep thinking over and over about like six questions I know after the fact I got wrong because they stuck in my head and I checked my outlines afterwards. That leaves me thinking my outcomes were similar throughout.

On subjects I am very good, such as CrimLaw/Procedure the types of questions I was used to seemed to be replaced with obscure judicial instructions and other random stuff.

Every single Con Law question I remember I think I got wrong and I normally did well in Con Law. I'm beginning to think I only got good at the MBE because Kaplan tested some of the same stuff over and over whereas the actual bar threw all sorts of new things at me that I wasn't used to and didn't have the opportunity to previously get wrong.

Praying I don't have to do this again.

[wannabeapd2014]

I'm beginning to think I only got good at the MBE because Kaplan tested some of the same stuff over and over whereas the actual bar threw all sorts of new things at me that I wasn't used to and didn't have the opportunity to previously get wrong.

Praying I don't have to do this again.

Ditto, except Themis.

I am going to try to just let it go and not think about this until May when the results are released.

[OklahomasOK]

If it makes you guys feel better, I felt like Barbri really let me down in July. I felt like a good 1/2 of the questions on the exam were previously not covered and complete guesses. I ended up doing just fine. Felt largely the same after this MBE although I did notice Property was much more difficult. Civ pro was a bit different than I expected and what Barbri taught but no complaints over all. I struggled with quite a bit of the exam, but so did everyone.

[Neidermeyer]

If it makes you guys feel better, I felt like Barbri really let me down in July. I felt like a good 1/2 of the questions on the exam were previously not covered and complete guesses. I ended up doing just fine. Felt largely the same after this MBE although I did notice Property was much more difficult. Civ pro was a bit different than I expected and what Barbri taught but no complaints over all. I struggled with quite a bit of the exam, but so did everyone.

Agreed 100%. I was pissed at Barbri after the exam because of the exceptionally difficult Property questions. I felt like the Property questions on this exam were, in part, difficult, but not as bad as in July. It felt like K was trickier on this exam than it was in July. This exam just felt different, but ultimately, I think the addition of civ pro took some of the burden off, as I find civ pro to be very straightforward.

The reality of this is that as long as you had a decent (not even a great, just a decent) performance on essays, you can miss around 80 questions or maybe even more on the MBE and still pass. When I took it in Kentucky we had to pass the MBE separately and that was nerve racking. In Indiana, they use a combined score, so I feel a lot more comfortable after coming out of there. I wrote the book and threw it at them on the essays and the MPT's. lol. On the MBE, I felt like there were more questions on this exam that I was ultimately clueless about, but I also felt like there were more gimme questions.

[Holly Golightly]

There were a few questions where I was like "lol you assholes, this better be a test question." Therewasalso one where I felt like they typoed and that made the right answer wrong

[MichBar]

Does anyone feel decent after this and have any passers reading this instinctively felt good after?

All my friends who previously passed are telling me I'm just being nuts, that they all felt this way, and that I did way better than I think. But I'm normally have a fairly decent grasp of my performance and that just felt way off. And it's not that I "think" I got a number wrong, there's a ton I know for a fact I got wrong. Obviously we all get a bunch wrong, but when nearly all the ones I can think of were wrong answers on my part, it makes me feel pretty crappy about the 60% where I was like "I guess it's this one and not that one."

[Jimothy]

Checking in as an NY taker. Not feeling too hot about my performance -- fully expecting the worst.

[Holly Golightly]

Does anyone feel decent after this and have any passers reading this instinctively felt good after?

All my friends who previously passed are telling me I'm just being nuts, that they all felt this way, and that I did way better than I think. But I'm normally have a fairly decent grasp of my performance and that just felt way off. And it's not that I "think" I got a number wrong, there's a ton I know for a fact I got wrong. Obviously we all get a bunch wrong, but when nearly all the ones I can think of were wrong answers on my part, it makes me feel pretty crappy about the 60% where I was like "I guess it's this one and not that one."

I walked out of the July 2013 MBE thinking there was no possible way that I passed, and I did. For what it's worth.

[OklahomasOK]

Does anyone feel decent after this and have any passers reading this instinctively felt good after?

All my friends who previously passed are telling me I'm just being nuts, that they all felt this way, and that I did way better than I think. But I'm normally have a fairly decent grasp of my performance and that just felt way off. And it's not that I "think" I got a number wrong, there's a ton I know for a fact I got wrong. Obviously we all get a bunch wrong, but when nearly all the ones I can think of were wrong answers on my part, it makes me feel pretty crappy about the 60% where I was like "I guess it's this one and not that one."

I never met/ talked to/ heard of anyone who thought they did well on the MBE right after taking it. Everyone that I knew who passed generally felt pretty bad, like I did. I feel like I could have gotten 50% correct or 75% correct and neither would really shock me.

Generally, I felt like 1/3 were oddly easy, 1/3 I was about to narrow down to two choices and felt OK about my choice, 1/3 were "lol yolo" choices.

[guest305]

So, can a mortgagor in a lien theory state take possession prior to sale or nah?

For the record, I went with "nah."

There were some weird possible answers on that one, though.

[MichBar]

I don't remember much of the Civ Pro except that while there was a ton of it on my exam (had to be a lot of experimentals) a lot seemed from the middle to the end of the outline.

I also feel like Crim Law had some pretty obscure questions. And I'm pretty sure that taking Kaplan's advice that "This is never the right answer" might have cost me an additional point or two.

Basically, right now, all I can think about is the numerous questions I know I got wrong. But then again, when I do a stretch of 33 and get like 11 wrong, that's not so bad, but I'm obsessing over the dozen or so on the entire test of 200 that I know I got wrong.

I also am freaked out that somewhere around 25-30% of my answers were "A" in one session whereas various others were either getting the same frequency of D's (a couple others reported high A's) so I don't know what that means.

I do know all this post-test analyzing is unhealthy and doesn't change a thing, but I also know I need to talk myself through some things to have a more sane perspective.

[Neidermeyer]

I don't remember much of the Civ Pro except that while there was a ton of it on my exam (had to be a lot of experimentals) a lot seemed from the middle to the end of the outline.

I also feel like Crim Law had some pretty obscure questions. And I'm pretty sure that taking Kaplan's advice that "This is never the right answer" might have cost me an additional point or two.

Basically, right now, all I can think about is the numerous questions I know I got wrong. But then again, when I do a stretch of 33 and get like 11 wrong, that's not so bad, but I'm obsessing over the dozen or so on the entire test of 200 that I know I got wrong.

I also am freaked out that somewhere around 25-30% of my answers were "A" in one session whereas various others were either getting the same frequency of D's (a couple others reported high A's) so I don't know what that means.

I do know all this post-test analyzing is unhealthy and doesn't change a thing, but I also know I need to talk myself through some things to have a more sane perspective.

I agree on the A's and D's. I had stretches of 3-5 in a row multiple times.

[logdog]

Does anyone feel decent after this and have any passers reading this instinctively felt good after?

All my friends who previously passed are telling me I'm just being nuts, that they all felt this way, and that I did way better than I think. But I'm normally have a fairly decent grasp of my performance and that just felt way off. And it's not that I "think" I got a number wrong, there's a ton I know for a fact I got wrong. Obviously we all get a bunch wrong, but when nearly all the ones I can think of were wrong answers on my part, it makes me feel pretty crappy about the 60% where I was like "I guess it's this one and not that one."

I walked out of the July 2013 MBE thinking there was no possible way that I passed, and I did. For what it's worth.

I took the bar in July 2014 - felt the same way about Barbri MBE prep that a lot of people in this thread feel. I honestly felt like I was just picking a letter on about 50% of the questions. I didn't turn my Barbri books in to get my deposit back, because I was convinced I would need them to test again in February. I passed. You probably will too.

But yeah, Barbri really let me down with their lack of property prep/

[underthirty]

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[MichBar]

I had test form 4 and had a ton of A's in the PM, as did someone with test form 10. Someone else with with test form 8 had a million D's.

A few remarks from my room was that the morning was harder than the afternoon but I didn't find a drastic difference. I thought each section had a few easy streaks where I was coasting along and then as soon as I started to feel good about myself a string of questions would come and mess me up.

Also, the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the IV Amendment can suck it.

[aquasalad]

I liked the one where the defendant didn't even put on their case at trial... took me about 3 minutes before I realized what the answer was.


This MBE also sucked for the lack of funny fact patterns... cocaine and marijuana only once each? WTF NCBE?

[ilovetypos]

I had test form 4 and had a ton of A's in the PM, as did someone with test form 10. Someone else with with test form 8 had a million D's.

A few remarks from my room was that the morning was harder than the afternoon but I didn't find a drastic difference. I thought each section had a few easy streaks where I was coasting along and then as soon as I started to feel good about myself a string of questions would come and mess me up.

Also, the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the IV Amendment can suck it.

yup, i missed that one (i can only remember one)

[Holly Golightly]

So, can a mortgagor in a lien theory state take possession prior to sale or nah?

For the record, I went with "nah."

There were some weird possible answers on that one, though.

I, too, nah'd.

Therewasalso one where I felt like they typoed and that made the right answer wrong

Yes! It was so close to being right. I was annoyed.

I almost yelled at it. haha

[MichBar]

I was expecting a lot more hearsay questions in Evidence. I can only remember a few.

[OklahomasOK]

I liked the one where the defendant didn't even put on their case at trial... took me about 3 minutes before I realized what the answer was.


This MBE also sucked for the lack of funny fact patterns... cocaine and marijuana only once each? WTF NCBE?

There was a distinct lack of "fun" crim law questions this time around.

[Holly Golightly]

There were so many questions I was unsure of but I really can't even remember what most of them were about.

Also, I got mad at a few of the civ pro and conlaw questions because they seemed more like judgment calls than questions with an actual right answer. Although I admittedly overanalyze those things because of my job.

[Holly Golightly]

Also having to wait to find out if we passed sucks.

[ilovetypos]

Also having to wait to find out if we passed sucks.

WORD. I'm dying.

[Holly Golightly]

I made up so much law on th essays. lol. Soooooo much law.

[YibanRen]

I'm not going to post questions, but I think we are fine asking about laws that were tested on the test.

Are you able to bring in hearsay into a preliminary bail hearing? Can a meeting with probation officer be considered a custodial interrogation?, can reaching into someone's pocket during an investigatory detention without feeling contour of the contraband be an illegal search without probable cause?

Con law is my best subject, like I didn't miss one practice question in my last 50. There was one I was one issue that drive me crazy. The president can't use the property power to control the actions of people who happen to be on federal property? It actually has to involve the property itself right?