BarBri - NY Exam - July 2014 Forum

[PennBull]

Man I'm really gonna be relying on this minimum competency standard.

[thetashster]

Man I'm really gonna be relying on this minimum competency standard.

as long as we're all dumb together, it'll be fine

[Guchster]

Man I'm really gonna be relying on this minimum competency standard.

An example of a perfect score on the July 2011 exam (i.e., doing the bare minimum to pass):

135 MBE SCALED Score (123 raw)
24 NY Multiple Choice
51 Essay SCALED Average (including MPT) - A 3.7 FUCKING RAW AVERAGE PER ESSAY

EDITED: Added what a scaled 51 essay average equates to in actual points.

[jd20132013]

man i wish my state had these fancy minimum stats that yall in NY seem to have

would be nice to see exactly how low an MBE + essay i could get

i'm not even quite sure how our essays are scaled

[thetashster]

Man I'm really gonna be relying on this minimum competency standard.

An example of a perfect score on the July 2011 exam (i.e., doing the bare minimum to pass):

135 MBE SCALED Score (123 raw)
24 NY Multiple Choice
51 Essay SCALED Average (including MPT)

*insert I NEED DIS image*

[Guchster]

man i wish my state had these fancy minimum stats that yall in NY seem to have

would be nice to see exactly how low an MBE + essay i could get

i'm not even quite sure how our essays are scaled

THE RECEIPTS


http://www.seperac.com/calc-raw-scaled.php
http://www.seperac.com/calc-matrix-f11.php

[jd20132013]

man i wish my state had these fancy minimum stats that yall in NY seem to have

would be nice to see exactly how low an MBE + essay i could get

i'm not even quite sure how our essays are scaled

THE RECEIPTS


http://www.seperac.com/calc-raw-scaled.php
http://www.seperac.com/calc-matrix-f11.php

are u saying there's a way I can use this to get my state's minimums too?

[Guchster]

are u saying there's a way I can use this to get my state's minimums too?

Oh sorry I didn't see you typed the word state because bar prep has left me partially illiterate.

But in those links you can find the MBE raw to scale conversion per MBE year.

[thetashster]

are u saying there's a way I can use this to get my state's minimums too?

Oh sorry I didn't see you typed the word state because bar prep has left me partially illiterate.

But in those links you can find the MBE raw to scale conversion per MBE year.

sadly no way to know how anybody's essays are scaled really. they sign like NDAs and shit about how that shit is graded blah blah. separac does a good job but idk if he even knows what he's doing.

[harmonep07]

Man I'm really gonna be relying on this minimum competency standard.

An example of a perfect score on the July 2011 exam (i.e., doing the bare minimum to pass):

135 MBE SCALED Score (123 raw)
24 NY Multiple Choice
51 Essay SCALED Average (including MPT) - A 3.7 FUCKING RAW AVERAGE PER ESSAY

EDITED: Added what a scaled 51 essay average equates to in actual points.

24 NYMC is pushing it. I'll shoot for a 4.5 essay score and 15 NYMC.

[jd20132013]

are u saying there's a way I can use this to get my state's minimums too?

Oh sorry I didn't see you typed the word state because bar prep has left me partially illiterate.

But in those links you can find the MBE raw to scale conversion per MBE year.

sadly no way to know how anybody's essays are scaled really. they sign like NDAs and shit about how that shit is graded blah blah. separac does a good job but idk if he even knows what he's doing.

this is a fucking racket yall

i swear i'll go in on a class action with yall after this is over

[Guchster]

are u saying there's a way I can use this to get my state's minimums too?

Oh sorry I didn't see you typed the word state because bar prep has left me partially illiterate.

But in those links you can find the MBE raw to scale conversion per MBE year.

sadly no way to know how anybody's essays are scaled really. they sign like NDAs and shit about how that shit is graded blah blah. separac does a good job but idk if he even knows what he's doing.

True

I think it looks reasonable tho. If I was grading some of these model answers based purely off points and the way that ex-barbri flame said essays were graded, I wouldn't give most of these people beyond a 4-5 points (except that asshat who cited the fucking NY statute down to the letter), which I guess they have to be at least above a 55, right?

[thetashster]

are u saying there's a way I can use this to get my state's minimums too?

Oh sorry I didn't see you typed the word state because bar prep has left me partially illiterate.

But in those links you can find the MBE raw to scale conversion per MBE year.

sadly no way to know how anybody's essays are scaled really. they sign like NDAs and shit about how that shit is graded blah blah. separac does a good job but idk if he even knows what he's doing.

True

I think it looks reasonable tho. If I was grading some of these model answers based purely off points and the way that ex-barbri flame said essays were graded, I wouldn't give most of these people beyond a 4-5 points (except that asshat who cited the fucking NY statute down to the letter), which I guess they have to be at least above a 55, right?

that ex-barbri guy nearly gave me a heart attack. said goodbye to half a can of whipped cream that night. i'd be annoyed as a grader if somebody gave me filing fees.

[PennBull]

There's no way I'm getting a 3.7 average in these essays hahah

[PennBull]

There's no way I'm getting a 3.7 average in these essays hahah

Like isn't a 3.7 kinda good?

[thetashster]

There's no way I'm getting a 3.7 average in these essays hahah

you're gonna do better?

[PennBull]

There's no way I'm getting a 3.7 average in these essays hahah

Like isn't a 3.7 kinda good?

What is a 3.7 out of?

[thetashster]

There's no way I'm getting a 3.7 average in these essays hahah

Like isn't a 3.7 kinda good?

What is a 3.7 out of?

i love taht you just quoted yourself multiple times.

do you mean 3.7 scaled?? or raw?

[PennBull]

3.7 raw, is that out of ten? Six?

[thetashster]

3.7 raw, is that out of ten? Six?

10 in NYC

[PennBull]

Oh ok nevermind, I can totally do that

People just keep mentioning getting 6s for scores as fucking perfect but that's just like, the highest reasonable score, right?

60% on MBE
37% on essays
25% on NYMC

I can totally do that

[thetashster]

Oh ok nevermind, I can totally do that

People just keep mentioning getting 6s for scores as fucking perfect but that's just like, the highest reasonable score, right?

60% on MBE
37% on essays
25% on NYMC

I can totally do that

i just started reading about people who failed. that was a bad bad bad idea.

[Guchster]

Oh ok nevermind, I can totally do that

People just keep mentioning getting 6s for scores as fucking perfect but that's just like, the highest reasonable score, right?

60% on MBE
37% on essays
25% on NYMC

I can totally do that

This exam is fucking sick. I mean let's chop the material in half and raise the scores so you need at least a 50% to pass the exam...

Or better yet, make the whole fucking test MPTs so it's closer to real life?

[Guchster]

Oh ok nevermind, I can totally do that

People just keep mentioning getting 6s for scores as fucking perfect but that's just like, the highest reasonable score, right?

60% on MBE
37% on essays
25% on NYMC

I can totally do that

i just started reading about people who failed. that was a bad bad bad idea.

OH NO! DON'T DO THAT! I did that last week and it freaked me out. Just realize that if you're scoring higher than a 30/50 on the mixed sets and can rack up like 2-3 points per essay (but knock the MPT out of the park), you're going to be more than fine.

[PennBull]

I have done anything MPT related except briefly look at a couple answers haha