July 2016 Illinois Bar Exam Forum

[ams287]

Does anyone know of any resources for answers and/or analysis of prior IEE Essay Questions? Or does the IL Bar Exam not release or make any answers/analysis of past questions available?

I am practicing the essay questions they have on their website from past exams (at https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/resource) but haven't been able to find out how to see what the answers are.

Thanks!

[mu13ski]

What are the big Illinois specific rules that you guys are really trying to focus on memorizing? I'm thinking like specific rule numbers, laws, doctrines, etc.

[rmhco]

What are the big Illinois specific rules that you guys are really trying to focus on memorizing? I'm thinking like specific rule numbers, laws, doctrines, etc.

This may be misguided and is still super vague but I'm trying to really focus on IL Civ Pro distinctions since it seems almost certain to be tested, as well as the particular rules for Corporations; but I'm definitely interested in hearing what other people are thing ...

[rmhco]

I feel like I hadn't seen between 1/3 and 1/2 of the rules for today's property set -- some of the exceptions to exceptions especially. This felt by far the most difficult Set 5!!

[POA]

I feel like I hadn't seen between 1/3 and 1/2 of the rules for today's property set -- some of the exceptions to exceptions especially. This felt by far the most difficult Set 5!!

Same! I hadn't seen them on BARBRI or adapti bar .... I'm chalking it up to another BARBRI manipulative ploy to make us panic and study more . Set 5 was a beast.

[rmhco]

It's very possible that I'm brain dead and looking at this wrong, but I'm not seeing Taxation in the essay frequency chart that BarBri gave us. I'm trying to figure out how much to panic about Taxation since the lecture was so terrible (and I didn't take it in law school). Does anyone have any insight on its probability in the exam? Or, failing that, any tips haha?

[justtrying]

It's very possible that I'm brain dead and looking at this wrong, but I'm not seeing Taxation in the essay frequency chart that BarBri gave us. I'm trying to figure out how much to panic about Taxation since the lecture was so terrible (and I didn't take it in law school). Does anyone have any insight on its probability in the exam? Or, failing that, any tips haha?

Yeah apparently it hasn't been tested in at least 15 years or something (the Barbri chart only goes back 12 years I think). To be honest with you, I can't fit any more info into my brain, so I am not touching admin or tax. I may end up regretting it, but I'd be much happier gaining back points on the other topics rather than take the chance that one of those unlikely topics shows up.

At this point, godda prioritize based on what is feasible and what isn't. For example, personal property is not likely to show up either, but it's so much more manageable than admin and tax that I opted to study it instead of those. I just know that by the time I try to start learning tax for real, that's wasted time I could have spent getting more comfortable with MBE topics that will appear on both days of the exam.

[rmhco]

It's very possible that I'm brain dead and looking at this wrong, but I'm not seeing Taxation in the essay frequency chart that BarBri gave us. I'm trying to figure out how much to panic about Taxation since the lecture was so terrible (and I didn't take it in law school). Does anyone have any insight on its probability in the exam? Or, failing that, any tips haha?

Yeah apparently it hasn't been tested in at least 15 years or something (the Barbri chart only goes back 12 years I think). To be honest with you, I can't fit any more info into my brain, so I am not touching admin or tax. I may end up regretting it, but I'd be much happier gaining back points on the other topics rather than take the chance that one of those unlikely topics shows up.

At this point, godda prioritize based on what is feasible and what isn't. For example, personal property is not likely to show up either, but it's so much more manageable than admin and tax that I opted to study it instead of those. I just know that by the time I try to start learning tax for real, that's wasted time I could have spent getting more comfortable with MBE topics that will appear on both days of the exam.

Thank you, that's really helpful!!! This is along the lines I'm thinking too -- I think if I scan those docs/LeanSheets (Tax/Admin/PP) 1-2 other times I'll know enough to BS, but the topics I'm thinking are the most important are IL Civ Pro, Torts, Wills, Secured Transactions, Business Associations, Family Law ... the MEE prediction of Conflict of Laws makes me a little nervous though it seems like mostly straightforward memorization.

[ls23]

Barbri specific question: When they are assigning "Additional Essays" for the various subjects, is there a list of how they want us to prioritize which ones to do in the essay book or are you all just picking a random collection and doing them?

[rmhco]

Barbri specific question: When they are assigning "Additional Essays" for the various subjects, is there a list of how they want us to prioritize which ones to do in the essay book or are you all just picking a random collection and doing them?

I don't think there's a specific list, but I used the general advice that I think is at the beginning of the essay book to start with the last essay and work your way backward

[ls23]

Barbri specific question: When they are assigning "Additional Essays" for the various subjects, is there a list of how they want us to prioritize which ones to do in the essay book or are you all just picking a random collection and doing them?

I don't think there's a specific list, but I used the general advice that I think is at the beginning of the essay book to start with the last essay and work your way backward

I don't how I missed that. Thanks!

[rmhco]

Barbri specific question: When they are assigning "Additional Essays" for the various subjects, is there a list of how they want us to prioritize which ones to do in the essay book or are you all just picking a random collection and doing them?

I don't think there's a specific list, but I used the general advice that I think is at the beginning of the essay book to start with the last essay and work your way backward

I don't how I missed that. Thanks!

There's pretty much no reason you would find it naturally. I think I had it laying open somewhere when I was avoiding doing work .

[thomzzz]

Does anyone know if we're allowed to take our cellphones into the building? I know you have to leave your personal stuff in the "designated area", but does this include cellphones? Just trying to figure out if taking uber to the location is a viable option...

[rmhco]

Does anyone know if we're allowed to take our cellphones into the building? I know you have to leave your personal stuff in the "designated area", but does this include cellphones? Just trying to figure out if taking uber to the location is a viable option...

On the instructions list, it says:

"DESIGNATED STORAGE AREA
You may leave items unpermitted in the testing area in an unsecured Designated Storage Area at your own risk. This includes valuables such as cellphones, watches, fitness trackers (e.g., Fitbits), electronics, and expensive outerwear and bags. The Board assumes no responsibility for any personal property."

So I think we're good -- BarBri freaked me out a bit in the Essay lecture about how we'd fail if we walked within a 10 foot radius of the building with a phone, but this seems pretty clearcut on what we can leave there (at our own risk). Which is a relief, since I don't really know the area and am traveling in and was feeling anxious about getting back and forth to my hotel!

[Calvin Murphy]

Does anyone know if we're allowed to take our cellphones into the building? I know you have to leave your personal stuff in the "designated area", but does this include cellphones? Just trying to figure out if taking uber to the location is a viable option...

On the instructions list, it says:

"DESIGNATED STORAGE AREA
You may leave items unpermitted in the testing area in an unsecured Designated Storage Area at your own risk. This includes valuables such as cellphones, watches, fitness trackers (e.g., Fitbits), electronics, and expensive outerwear and bags. The Board assumes no responsibility for any personal property."

So I think we're good -- BarBri freaked me out a bit in the Essay lecture about how we'd fail if we walked within a 10 foot radius of the building with a phone, but this seems pretty clearcut on what we can leave there (at our own risk). Which is a relief, since I don't really know the area and am traveling in and was feeling anxious about getting back and forth to my hotel!

What is TCR for getting lunch? Like...I don't want to go somewhere only to find that they have a huge line and then be late getting back to the test, you know?

[rmhco]

Does anyone know if we're allowed to take our cellphones into the building? I know you have to leave your personal stuff in the "designated area", but does this include cellphones? Just trying to figure out if taking uber to the location is a viable option...

On the instructions list, it says:

"DESIGNATED STORAGE AREA
You may leave items unpermitted in the testing area in an unsecured Designated Storage Area at your own risk. This includes valuables such as cellphones, watches, fitness trackers (e.g., Fitbits), electronics, and expensive outerwear and bags. The Board assumes no responsibility for any personal property."

So I think we're good -- BarBri freaked me out a bit in the Essay lecture about how we'd fail if we walked within a 10 foot radius of the building with a phone, but this seems pretty clearcut on what we can leave there (at our own risk). Which is a relief, since I don't really know the area and am traveling in and was feeling anxious about getting back and forth to my hotel!

What is TCR for getting lunch? Like...I don't want to go somewhere only to find that they have a huge line and then be late getting back to the test, you know?

Def wondering same thing ... I'm flying in Monday afternoon and staying at the hotel with the room bloc and seriously considering Ubering to a grocery store/Target to pick up a lunch so I don't have to worry about it. Not sure if there's a convenient place to eat tho ...

[nomsicles]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

[rmhco]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

[nomsicles]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.

[rmhco]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.

Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I don't think you're fucked with the scoring. I think BarBri fucks with you a lot at the end. A lot of the answer explanations have been, at best, illogical, meaning I don't think they CAN be representative of the types of questions on the MBE and are meant to jar you/give you the hardest possible thing. Even when I've written in asking substantive questions that answers have basically been these roundabout repetitions of the explanations without any real explanation as to why that's the correct answer choice given the law. So I don't think the scoring is an accurate representation of what you can expect. Also if you haven't seen it there's this google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0) thread that has people's midterm scores and their final scores compared to their actual MBE scores which made me feel a lot better. I just think the only way that score could screw you over would be by letting it freak you out too much.

[nomsicles]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.

Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I don't think you're fucked with the scoring. I think BarBri fucks with you a lot at the end. A lot of the answer explanations have been, at best, illogical, meaning I don't think they CAN be representative of the types of questions on the MBE and are meant to jar you/give you the hardest possible thing. Even when I've written in asking substantive questions that answers have basically been these roundabout repetitions of the explanations without any real explanation as to why that's the correct answer choice given the law. So I don't think the scoring is an accurate representation of what you can expect. Also if you haven't seen it there's this google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0) thread that has people's midterm scores and their final scores compared to their actual MBE scores which made me feel a lot better. I just think the only way that score could screw you over would be by letting it freak you out too much.

Great....the two IL reporting test takers failed...one of which with a higher percentage than what I have right now.

Tell me how you saw the cup half full, please!

[rmhco]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.

Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I don't think you're fucked with the scoring. I think BarBri fucks with you a lot at the end. A lot of the answer explanations have been, at best, illogical, meaning I don't think they CAN be representative of the types of questions on the MBE and are meant to jar you/give you the hardest possible thing. Even when I've written in asking substantive questions that answers have basically been these roundabout repetitions of the explanations without any real explanation as to why that's the correct answer choice given the law. So I don't think the scoring is an accurate representation of what you can expect. Also if you haven't seen it there's this google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0) thread that has people's midterm scores and their final scores compared to their actual MBE scores which made me feel a lot better. I just think the only way that score could screw you over would be by letting it freak you out too much.

Great....the two IL reporting test takers failed...one of which with a higher percentage than what I have right now.

Tell me how you saw the cup half full, please!

I was actually confused about how they got their final scores -- doesn't IL not give you the final number?

But anyhow the one guy self studied and it looks like both bombed the essays! The guy with the higher score scored in like the 15th percentile for essays. Also remember the scores are scaled at the end ...

I'm sorry if that freaked you out--I really do think you're fine, I promise. I don't know what your score was on the 200 practice test, but there are people who got around 100 on the practice test and still scored at like 140 and 150! It seems like most people who were anywhere near the target for BarBri scored around 150. There's someone who scored like 48 and got a 120 on the final. In IL you'd need to get 146 on the essays, which is like the 58th percentile, which is manageable.

Also, the refresher could be a total fluke.

How do you feel about your writing?

[nomsicles]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.

Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I don't think you're fucked with the scoring. I think BarBri fucks with you a lot at the end. A lot of the answer explanations have been, at best, illogical, meaning I don't think they CAN be representative of the types of questions on the MBE and are meant to jar you/give you the hardest possible thing. Even when I've written in asking substantive questions that answers have basically been these roundabout repetitions of the explanations without any real explanation as to why that's the correct answer choice given the law. So I don't think the scoring is an accurate representation of what you can expect. Also if you haven't seen it there's this google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0) thread that has people's midterm scores and their final scores compared to their actual MBE scores which made me feel a lot better. I just think the only way that score could screw you over would be by letting it freak you out too much.

Great....the two IL reporting test takers failed...one of which with a higher percentage than what I have right now.

Tell me how you saw the cup half full, please!

I was actually confused about how they got their final scores -- doesn't IL not give you the final number?

But anyhow the one guy self studied and it looks like both bombed the essays! The guy with the higher score scored in like the 15th percentile for essays. Also remember the scores are scaled at the end ...

I'm sorry if that freaked you out--I really do think you're fine, I promise. I don't know what your score was on the 200 practice test, but there are people who got around 100 on the practice test and still scored at like 140 and 150! It seems like most people who were anywhere near the target for BarBri scored around 150. There's someone who scored like 48 and got a 120 on the final. In IL you'd need to get 146 on the essays, which is like the 58th percentile, which is manageable.

Also, the refresher could be a total fluke.

How do you feel about your writing?

I think that was your must uplifting post yet, .

I have been working on the essays more in the past couple weeks, getting a lot of 3's I'd say. MPT's are fine, scoring 4's easily.

On the Barbri practice MBE sets I am usually 1 or 2 under their set "goals."

Someone told me that there are only 4 ways you can fail the IL Bar:
1. You don't study
2. You get sick during this last week
3. Something tragic happens to you in the last week
4. You have a serious meltdown during the test.

I keep telling myself those things and that all thats needed is to score in the (approx) 25th percentile and all will be well.

[rmhco]

What are people averaging?

I just took the MBE Refresher and got 44/100. I know Barbri's goal says 56%...

Am I totally fucked?

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.

Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I don't think you're fucked with the scoring. I think BarBri fucks with you a lot at the end. A lot of the answer explanations have been, at best, illogical, meaning I don't think they CAN be representative of the types of questions on the MBE and are meant to jar you/give you the hardest possible thing. Even when I've written in asking substantive questions that answers have basically been these roundabout repetitions of the explanations without any real explanation as to why that's the correct answer choice given the law. So I don't think the scoring is an accurate representation of what you can expect. Also if you haven't seen it there's this google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0) thread that has people's midterm scores and their final scores compared to their actual MBE scores which made me feel a lot better. I just think the only way that score could screw you over would be by letting it freak you out too much.

Great....the two IL reporting test takers failed...one of which with a higher percentage than what I have right now.

Tell me how you saw the cup half full, please!

I was actually confused about how they got their final scores -- doesn't IL not give you the final number?

But anyhow the one guy self studied and it looks like both bombed the essays! The guy with the higher score scored in like the 15th percentile for essays. Also remember the scores are scaled at the end ...

I'm sorry if that freaked you out--I really do think you're fine, I promise. I don't know what your score was on the 200 practice test, but there are people who got around 100 on the practice test and still scored at like 140 and 150! It seems like most people who were anywhere near the target for BarBri scored around 150. There's someone who scored like 48 and got a 120 on the final. In IL you'd need to get 146 on the essays, which is like the 58th percentile, which is manageable.

Also, the refresher could be a total fluke.

How do you feel about your writing?

I think that was your must uplifting post yet, .

I have been working on the essays more in the past couple weeks, getting a lot of 3's I'd say. MPT's are fine, scoring 4's easily.

On the Barbri practice MBE sets I am usually 1 or 2 under their set "goals."

Someone told me that there are only 4 ways you can fail the IL Bar:
1. You don't study
2. You get sick during this last week
3. Something tragic happens to you in the last week
4. You have a serious meltdown during the test.

I keep telling myself those things and that all thats needed is to score in the (approx) 25th percentile and all will be well.

Haha good -- and I will keep that information in mind when I have an inevitable freak out before Tuesday!

How are you scoring your MPT's? Are there scoring sheets for the essays and MPTs that I'm totally unaware of?

[nomsicles]

Not having taken the bar, my lay advice is -- you're probably more fucked if you let it psych you out. Write out the rule statements you missed and review them, maybe categorize the missed questions into: didn't know the law, misread the question, misapplied the law, and see what patterns you can find to target how you'll study for the next week. Either way you're taking it next week, and honestly it seems like BarBri gets less and less useful the closer you get to the exam in terms of its MBE's. There has been more than one question where it's like, "oh yeah jk this is a weird ruling that we've never told you about" or "yeah all of them correct but the court might rule this way so we like it better." I guess those questions could be on the MBE, but they seem less likely.[/quote]

I meant moreso in the actual scoring. I have seen threads that guesstimate your raw score and what scaled score it translates into, but those were from years back.

I know, confidence is a good chunk of the battle, and in times like these, TLS threads really come in handy.[/quote]

Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I don't think you're fucked with the scoring. I think BarBri fucks with you a lot at the end. A lot of the answer explanations have been, at best, illogical, meaning I don't think they CAN be representative of the types of questions on the MBE and are meant to jar you/give you the hardest possible thing. Even when I've written in asking substantive questions that answers have basically been these roundabout repetitions of the explanations without any real explanation as to why that's the correct answer choice given the law. So I don't think the scoring is an accurate representation of what you can expect. Also if you haven't seen it there's this google doc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0) thread that has people's midterm scores and their final scores compared to their actual MBE scores which made me feel a lot better. I just think the only way that score could screw you over would be by letting it freak you out too much.[/quote]

Great....the two IL reporting test takers failed...one of which with a higher percentage than what I have right now.

Tell me how you saw the cup half full, please![/quote]

I was actually confused about how they got their final scores -- doesn't IL not give you the final number?

But anyhow the one guy self studied and it looks like both bombed the essays! The guy with the higher score scored in like the 15th percentile for essays. Also remember the scores are scaled at the end ...

I'm sorry if that freaked you out--I really do think you're fine, I promise. I don't know what your score was on the 200 practice test, but there are people who got around 100 on the practice test and still scored at like 140 and 150! It seems like most people who were anywhere near the target for BarBri scored around 150. There's someone who scored like 48 and got a 120 on the final. In IL you'd need to get 146 on the essays, which is like the 58th percentile, which is manageable.

Also, the refresher could be a total fluke.

How do you feel about your writing?[/quote]

I think that was your must uplifting post yet, .

I have been working on the essays more in the past couple weeks, getting a lot of 3's I'd say. MPT's are fine, scoring 4's easily.

On the Barbri practice MBE sets I am usually 1 or 2 under their set "goals."

Someone told me that there are only 4 ways you can fail the IL Bar:
1. You don't study
2. You get sick during this last week
3. Something tragic happens to you in the last week
4. You have a serious meltdown during the test.

I keep telling myself those things and that all thats needed is to score in the (approx) 25th percentile and all will be well.[/quote]


Haha good -- and I will keep that information in mind when I have an inevitable freak out before Tuesday!

How are you scoring your MPT's? Are there scoring sheets for the essays and MPTs that I'm totally unaware of?[/quote]

I submitted the In Re Clarke one to Barbri and got a 4. I used their comments and the sample answer to self grade the second MPT I took.