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- anon sequitur
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Re: MPRE
wished I had done more, listened to both themis and barbri videos, but on headphones while I was exercising. Then did about 100 barbri questions, last night before the exam until i was too tired to get anything useful out of it. The questions were much more useful than the videos, wish I had taken some of the 6 hours I spent on video and done more questions.
Felt like most of the actual questions were tough, but spotted a bunch of issues from the questions that I would have completely missed without the practice questions. Need an 85, so definitely worried about not getting that. We'll see.
Felt like most of the actual questions were tough, but spotted a bunch of issues from the questions that I would have completely missed without the practice questions. Need an 85, so definitely worried about not getting that. We'll see.
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I guess I should have done more. I had a lot of questions go like this:
[Starts reading problem]
Oh, hey, I know this rule!
[continues reading]
Yup, that part's totally allowed
[continues reading]
There we go, that's against the rules for reason X
[reads last sentence, which throws out a minor fact that sounds like a totally plausible minor exception to the rule, that I might vaguely remembered from skimming the outline or might just be making up because it sounds credible]
... fuck.
[Starts reading problem]
Oh, hey, I know this rule!
[continues reading]
Yup, that part's totally allowed
[continues reading]
There we go, that's against the rules for reason X
[reads last sentence, which throws out a minor fact that sounds like a totally plausible minor exception to the rule, that I might vaguely remembered from skimming the outline or might just be making up because it sounds credible]
... fuck.
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Re: MPRE
I think I did ok but there were 3-5 questions (at least) that are based on scenarios not covered by the Barbri outline or practice questions.
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Re: MPRE
I think I overstudied (watched Barbri, Themis and Kaplan videos + did fill-in short outline, did several hundred practice ?s, read Barbri full outline, etc.) Finished with nearly 15 minutes remaining.
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Re: MPRE
So when I get the score back and find out that I failed, do I have to report it to my firm?
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Unless you're in one of the states (i.e. MA) which require you to pass the MPRE before being allowed to sit for the bar, then no.saffronleaf wrote:So when I get the score back and find out that I failed, do I have to report it to my firm?
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I think that's about how long I spent studying the day before. Walked out feeling very much like you. Passed.Robb wrote:+1mvp99 wrote:I felt like I should have done more than 6 hours of study
You guys are probably fine. Nearly everyone walks out feeling this way.
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Re: MPRE
Typically 5 weeks. So first week of May.
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- rinkrat19
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Re: MPRE
Literally every single person I talked to after the Nov MPRE felt like they did crappy and probably failed. I haven't heard about anyone who didn't pass.
The raw score/final score scale isn't released, but it must be ridiculously low. Don't stress yourselves.
The raw score/final score scale isn't released, but it must be ridiculously low. Don't stress yourselves.
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Re: MPRE
I thought it was total bullshit for many reasons. And I did 100% of the Themis course. As mentioned above, there were several scenarios that seemed totally out of the blue and not part of the materials we expected to be covered on the test. Also, though I expected the questions with more than one right answer, I didn't expect to cross out all 4 answers and sit there wondering why none of the answers was correct. Combine that with the shittiest test conditions they could've imagined and the slowest proctors in history, and I was walking out unhappy (usually I'm pretty zen after a test).
Then, as I was walking out, pissed and without having gone back to the questions I circled as unsure answers (probably 15 or more), I remembered a key part of the test that helped me feel better: 10 questions are "experimental" (or whatever they call it). I doubt all the ones I was angry about were experimental, especially given that I was angry about more than 10. But at least we can take solace in thinking that the ones they put about completely irrelevant topics may have been non-scored questions (e.g., oh just guessing here, but if they had a question about the merits of a 6th amendment case (seriously what the fuck?)).
Anyway, it seemed harder than the practice tests, and seemed hard in general, but everyone says they came out of it feeling shitty and ended up passing. It really is a ridiculously low score that we need. But if you take away 10 of the questions that you felt clueless on, how do you feel? If you felt you might've gotten 30/60, then 30/50 is a lot better.
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Then, as I was walking out, pissed and without having gone back to the questions I circled as unsure answers (probably 15 or more), I remembered a key part of the test that helped me feel better: 10 questions are "experimental" (or whatever they call it). I doubt all the ones I was angry about were experimental, especially given that I was angry about more than 10. But at least we can take solace in thinking that the ones they put about completely irrelevant topics may have been non-scored questions (e.g., oh just guessing here, but if they had a question about the merits of a 6th amendment case (seriously what the fuck?)).
Anyway, it seemed harder than the practice tests, and seemed hard in general, but everyone says they came out of it feeling shitty and ended up passing. It really is a ridiculously low score that we need. But if you take away 10 of the questions that you felt clueless on, how do you feel? If you felt you might've gotten 30/60, then 30/50 is a lot better.
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Congrats. Put your score right next to your LSAT on your resume.BlueLotus wrote:What a joke. I def overstudied.
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- LAWYER2
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Re: MPRE
imalreadyamember? wrote:I thought it was total bullshit for many reasons. And I did 100% of the Themis course. As mentioned above, there were several scenarios that seemed totally out of the blue and not part of the materials we expected to be covered on the test. Also, though I expected the questions with more than one right answer, I didn't expect to cross out all 4 answers and sit there wondering why none of the answers was correct. Combine that with the shittiest test conditions they could've imagined and the slowest proctors in history, and I was walking out unhappy (usually I'm pretty zen after a test).
Then, as I was walking out, pissed and without having gone back to the questions I circled as unsure answers (probably 15 or more), I remembered a key part of the test that helped me feel better: 10 questions are "experimental" (or whatever they call it). I doubt all the ones I was angry about were experimental, especially given that I was angry about more than 10. But at least we can take solace in thinking that the ones they put about completely irrelevant topics may have been non-scored questions (e.g., oh just guessing here, but if they had a question about the merits of a 6th amendment case (seriously what the fuck?)).
Anyway, it seemed harder than the practice tests, and seemed hard in general, but everyone says they came out of it feeling shitty and ended up passing. It really is a ridiculously low score that we need. But if you take away 10 of the questions that you felt clueless on, how do you feel? If you felt you might've gotten 30/60, then 30/50 is a lot better.
AlsoCongrats. Put your score right next to your LSAT on your resume.BlueLotus wrote:What a joke. I def overstudied.
That about sums it up for me.
There were more than a few WTF questions where I solemnly tried to remember if my count had exceeded the experimental question threshold. I did the Barbri video/outline twice and completed all 180 practice questions and just didn't feel like the test was that easy. I guess we'll find out!
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Re: MPRE
I watched the BarBri video twice and had 95% coverage on their practice questions.
I still walked out of there not having a clue what just happened. I averaged something like 1min:15s for the BarBri questions, yet barely finished the real thing with three minutes to spare, and felt like the fact patterns were far longer than previous exams. Really hope the rumors of the absurdly lenient grade scales are not as exaggerated as the stories of this exam's "low" difficulty.
I still walked out of there not having a clue what just happened. I averaged something like 1min:15s for the BarBri questions, yet barely finished the real thing with three minutes to spare, and felt like the fact patterns were far longer than previous exams. Really hope the rumors of the absurdly lenient grade scales are not as exaggerated as the stories of this exam's "low" difficulty.
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Re: MPRE
You'll do fine. The threshold for passing is like 60% correct.Stevoman wrote:I watched the BarBri video twice and had 95% coverage on their practice questions.
I still walked out of there not having a clue what just happened. I averaged something like 1min:15s for the BarBri questions, yet barely finished the real thing with three minutes to spare, and felt like the fact patterns were far longer than previous exams. Really hope the rumors of the absurdly lenient grade scales are not as exaggerated as the stories of this exam's "low" difficulty.
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- SiRR
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Re: MPRE
I watched the 3.5hr Kaplan lecture + filled in the outline, then did just north of 200 questions. Some were from the Kaplan book, some from their online question bank, and some from BarBri's online bank. I didn't do anything timed as I was answering them on average in less than 90 sec. I always made sure to check the answer explanations.
I thought the Kaplan and BarBri questions were pretty similar, and about the same difficulty/format as the test questions. I definitely had a handful of WTF questions, but, generally felt prepared. Honestly I think the only way you could score 90% correct on that test is to carefully read every rule AND all the comments. Far more than what's required to pass with a mid-80s scaled score.
I thought the Kaplan and BarBri questions were pretty similar, and about the same difficulty/format as the test questions. I definitely had a handful of WTF questions, but, generally felt prepared. Honestly I think the only way you could score 90% correct on that test is to carefully read every rule AND all the comments. Far more than what's required to pass with a mid-80s scaled score.
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Re: MPRE
Hey guys,
I am in the "I think I failed" camp. Ugggh, I can't wait for our result. Anyways, I don't know if anyone else did, but I vaguely remember a question that very closely resembled the Robert Garrow problem about an attorney who had information on the whereabouts of the bodies from his client's murder.
This is a pretty good article:
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/arti ... hest_call/
I hope we all passed!
I am in the "I think I failed" camp. Ugggh, I can't wait for our result. Anyways, I don't know if anyone else did, but I vaguely remember a question that very closely resembled the Robert Garrow problem about an attorney who had information on the whereabouts of the bodies from his client's murder.
This is a pretty good article:
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/arti ... hest_call/
I hope we all passed!

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Re: MPRE
April 28. http://www.ncbex.org/Honeysuckle wrote:When will scores be released?
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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