July 2017 NY Bar Hangout Thread - Results Are Here!!! Forum

Slytherpuff · Post by **Slytherpuff** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:10 am

Yeah, they only sent the email to people who hadn't uploaded the Mock Exam yet. You're good!

Yazzzay · Post by **Yazzzay** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:08 pm

Samarcan wrote:
MrWhitman wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:
Slytherpuff wrote:PSA: We have to upload a Mock Exam to SofTest by 4:30pm EST tomorrow (July 3).
I feel like I uploaded this but I'm unsure. I guess we can check the website?
Okay, I think this was the mock test made available awhile ago, and not any new mock test. (Entitled "NYSBOLE_Mock Exam_07-17") on ExamSoft's website.
I'm pretty confused about this. What do we need to do? I've beenn looking through my emails and on examsofts website but can't find any info.
Kind of a paranoid moment question: I saw these last few messages on July 3 (today) and couldn't remember if I had previously uploaded the mock exam. I went to the ExamSoft website but didn't see the record of it at first, so downloaded and uploaded the mock exam again, today. It turns out I had in fact uploaded it successfully about a month ago, well before the deadline.

But now what my online record shows on the ExamSoft website is the record of my most recent upload -- the one from today. Will that overwrite my original upload from a month ago, so that it will seem as though I missed the deadline? I tried calling the number but it's just a menu of automated choices. Am now worried that they'll say I failed to upload the mock exam in time and have to write by hand or something!

Just called confused about this too! Examsoft gives you 4 or 5 mock exams to download. As long as you recieved the first email confirmation of an uploaded mock, you're fine. The additional ones that will keep showing up if you keep resubmitting are for you to get acquainted with examsoft and you won't recieve an email for them! So ignore the updated date on the website- just make sure you have the confirmation email for the 1st one!

ubebarstudying · Post by **ubebarstudying** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:32 pm

Samarcan wrote:
Slytherpuff wrote:
Samarcan wrote:
Slytherpuff wrote:The deadline isn't even until later today, so you're fine either way! We have until 4:30pm EST.
Really? The email I received from ExamSoft when I first registered for the NY Bar says:

*IMPORTANT NOTES*

You must also take the Mock Exam and upload the Mock Exam answer file by 4:30 pm EST on Saturday,
July 1, 2017 to ensure that the software is working properly on your laptop.
This is so confusing! I emailed ExamSoft, so hopefully will get a response soon.
They sent out another email on June 26 that bumped the deadline back to July 3.
Weird! I didn't get an email from them on June 26. Maybe it's because I had already done the first mock upload by then, so their system sent the emails to people for whom they didn't have a record of that. But sounds like I should be ok in any case. Thanks!!

Yeah, i think you are all good my friend. My internet went down yesterday and it still was not up this morning so I called them to see if i would be banned from using a laptop if i didnt get it to them today and the gentleman i spoke with told me no, as long as i uploaded it soon and that they give the deadline at the beginning of July to afford them sufficient time to make sure everyone (and while that refers to people in the laptop program, I do think that it encompasses the overwhelming majority of us) who registered for a laptop has one that is compatible and that their software is functioning properly. The man also told me i wouldn't be the first to upload late over the years, but fortunately the internet returned to me at 1 so i got it uploaded and need not test the authenticity of his statement...and may I just say that I cannot even type authenticity without rules about authentication followed by other evidentiary rules popping into my head and it kind of makes me gag. Anyone else? Just me? Well, it's official. Bar prep has officially rendered me damaged goods...which under article 2 of the UCC - just kidding, I'm already soaked in shame.

dhersz · Post by **dhersz** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:44 am

Hi guys,

So I guess I'm having my early July freak-out.

I'm following Barbri quite religiously, I'm completely up to date. I've been doing things kind of open book but have recently moved to full closed book.

My main issue at this stage is that I feel like I'm retaining very little. My grades seem to be ok (within a few of Barbri's recommended percentages) but when it comes time to write an essay, I'm just not capable of spitting out the rules in any specific order. I've tried writing flashcards, my own notes etc but I just don't know how to go about this memorization thing!

Like am I able to just rely on Barbri and follow that through? Or do I really need to go on my own and actively memorize definitions etc.

Freaking out here!

ellewoodsNYC · Post by **ellewoodsNYC** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:17 pm

dhersz wrote:Hi guys,

So I guess I'm having my early July freak-out.

I'm following Barbri quite religiously, I'm completely up to date. I've been doing things kind of open book but have recently moved to full closed book.

My main issue at this stage is that I feel like I'm retaining very little. My grades seem to be ok (within a few of Barbri's recommended percentages) but when it comes time to write an essay, I'm just not capable of spitting out the rules in any specific order. I've tried writing flashcards, my own notes etc but I just don't know how to go about this memorization thing!

Like am I able to just rely on Barbri and follow that through? Or do I really need to go on my own and actively memorize definitions etc.

Freaking out here!

No particularly helpful advice other than to say I am feeling the same way! I have tried memorizing as well but I just cannot pathom being able to memorize all these rules and spit them out during the MEE.

thelawyer1908 · Post by **thelawyer1908** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:17 pm

dhersz wrote:Hi guys,

So I guess I'm having my early July freak-out.

I'm following Barbri quite religiously, I'm completely up to date. I've been doing things kind of open book but have recently moved to full closed book.

My main issue at this stage is that I feel like I'm retaining very little. My grades seem to be ok (within a few of Barbri's recommended percentages) but when it comes time to write an essay, I'm just not capable of spitting out the rules in any specific order. I've tried writing flashcards, my own notes etc but I just don't know how to go about this memorization thing!

Like am I able to just rely on Barbri and follow that through? Or do I really need to go on my own and actively memorize definitions etc.

Freaking out here!

I feel you, but the most important thing is not to panic. If you can't remember, make up a rule, apply it to your facts and come to a reasonable conclusion. You can still get points for this. I'm freaking out too as I haven't even had the testicular fortitude to do any essay questions (I've only outlined one). I'm going to start today though.

I'm doing barbri, i bought Adaptibar and using the Critical Pass flashcards and I still feel like i'm not retaining anything. But I'm really trying not to panic. If I could get through Law school and Bar school (I'm a foreign attorney in a Commonwealth jurisdiction), then I can get through this. Like Paula what's her name with the vodka a la Penne said, you just need an "ehhh." just concentrate and keep practicing. Go over your notes and don't overthink it.
Speaking to you and to me.
YOU CAN DO THIS!!!

wlp0001 · Post by **wlp0001** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:49 am

thelawyer1908 wrote:
dhersz wrote:Hi guys,

So I guess I'm having my early July freak-out.

I'm following Barbri quite religiously, I'm completely up to date. I've been doing things kind of open book but have recently moved to full closed book.

My main issue at this stage is that I feel like I'm retaining very little. My grades seem to be ok (within a few of Barbri's recommended percentages) but when it comes time to write an essay, I'm just not capable of spitting out the rules in any specific order. I've tried writing flashcards, my own notes etc but I just don't know how to go about this memorization thing!

Like am I able to just rely on Barbri and follow that through? Or do I really need to go on my own and actively memorize definitions etc.

Freaking out here!

I feel you, but the most important thing is not to panic. If you can't remember, make up a rule, apply it to your facts and come to a reasonable conclusion. You can still get points for this. I'm freaking out too as I haven't even had the testicular fortitude to do any essay questions (I've only outlined one). I'm going to start today though.

I'm doing barbri, i bought Adaptibar and using the Critical Pass flashcards and I still feel like i'm not retaining anything. But I'm really trying not to panic. If I could get through Law school and Bar school (I'm a foreign attorney in a Commonwealth jurisdiction), then I can get through this. Like Paula what's her name with the vodka a la Penne said, you just need an "ehhh." just concentrate and keep practicing. Go over your notes and don't overthink it.
Speaking to you and to me.
YOU CAN DO THIS!!!

You can't fail if you have followed everything that barbri has told you to do. You don't need to waste time memorizing everything, just follow the schedule and you will pass.

PanickingBarTaker · Post by **PanickingBarTaker** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:03 pm

dowhatyoucan wrote:Is anyone interested in meeting in the city to go over topics and questions?

I would love to! Any thoughts on a place an/or study strategies?

Slytherpuff · Post by **Slytherpuff** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:52 pm

In case anyone is wondering about seating tickets, based on 2015/2016 patterns there's a good chance we'll get the seat ticket in our email inbox two Wednesdays before the exam (July 12 for this year). All bets are off since they've been doing things a little differently for this summer's exam, but at least we have an idea of when to watch out for the email.

SowhatsNU · Post by **SowhatsNU** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:12 pm

Anyone have a gameplan on how we should divy up our precious study time between MEE and MBE prep? By MEE I mean stuff that isn't on the MBE (Wills, Trusts, Secured Transactions, etc.)

Like it'll take time to memorize all those rules, and I don't even have everything down pat for the MBE stuff..

Fianna13 · Post by **Fianna13** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:28 am

Anyone know the difficulty levels between Barbri's question set and emanuals? I'm getting absolutely destroyed on con law problem set while rocking the questions in emanuals

ellewoodsNYC · Post by **ellewoodsNYC** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:20 am

SowhatsNU wrote:Anyone have a gameplan on how we should divy up our precious study time between MEE and MBE prep? By MEE I mean stuff that isn't on the MBE (Wills, Trusts, Secured Transactions, etc.)

Like it'll take time to memorize all those rules, and I don't even have everything down pat for the MBE stuff..

planning to focus all me time to them this week...I hope that will be enough

bcohen226 · Post by **bcohen226** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:40 pm

Slytherpuff wrote:In case anyone is wondering about seating tickets, based on 2015/2016 patterns there's a good chance we'll get the seat ticket in our email inbox two Wednesdays before the exam (July 12 for this year). All bets are off since they've been doing things a little differently for this summer's exam, but at least we have an idea of when to watch out for the email.

I was told to expect the email tomorrow!

Slytherpuff · Post by **Slytherpuff** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:17 pm

bcohen226 wrote:
Slytherpuff wrote:In case anyone is wondering about seating tickets, based on 2015/2016 patterns there's a good chance we'll get the seat ticket in our email inbox two Wednesdays before the exam (July 12 for this year). All bets are off since they've been doing things a little differently for this summer's exam, but at least we have an idea of when to watch out for the email.
I was told to expect the email tomorrow!

That would be great if the email came out tomorrow! I really wouldn't be surprised if it came out earlier than previous years - this summer's timeline has been so different from other July exams.

Slytherpuff · Post by **Slytherpuff** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:06 pm

Slytherpuff wrote:Checklist:
ASAP - Book your flight and hotel
July 11 or 12 - Watch out for seating tickets with the FINAL location for NYC/Albany folks
Late July - Consider pre-ordering lunch for Manhattan, Albany, and Saratoga Springs

Want more information about the bar exam?
Board of Law Examiners Website
Official New York Bar Exam Guide

FAQs/TLS Wisdom:
What can you bring past the security checkpoint?
What topics are predicted to be on this year's MEE?
What is this "autopass" thing I keep hearing about on TLS?
General advice about routines

I updated the OP with more useful information. If anyone has suggestions for things to add (or TLS posts/threads you've found helpful), let me know and I can add them!

Samarcan · Post by **Samarcan** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:19 pm

Thanks for posting this. One thing I wonder is: it says you can bring your keys. It also says you can't bring electronic items in. What if your key is one of those new electronic dongle-type keys? Anyone experience that?

Slytherpuff · Post by **Slytherpuff** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:42 pm

Samarcan wrote:Thanks for posting this. One thing I wonder is: it says you can bring your keys. It also says you can't bring electronic items in. What if your key is one of those new electronic dongle-type keys? Anyone experience that?

Like a key fob? Those should be fine!

OutoftheWoods · Post by **OutoftheWoods** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:24 pm

I have no idea why I am getting so confused/can't get a straight answer anywhere, but for the MEE/MPT day, is each sitting 1 MPT and 3 essays, or is it morning session is 2 MPTs and then 6 essays in the afternoon or vice versa?

de minimis · Post by **de minimis** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:33 pm

OutoftheWoods wrote:I have no idea why I am getting so confused/can't get a straight answer anywhere, but for the MEE/MPT day, is each sitting 1 MPT and 3 essays, or is it morning session is 2 MPTs and then 6 essays in the afternoon or vice versa?

2 MPTs in the morning and 6 MEE in the afternoon

SplitMyPants · Post by **SplitMyPants** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:50 pm

is it just 3 hours total for both MPTs? or 90 minutes for each separately?
i had assumed a straight 3 hours for both divided as we see fit, but the instructions in themis say "you have 90 minutes for this portion of the exam," which is why i ask.

Slytherpuff · Post by **Slytherpuff** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:46 pm

OutoftheWoods wrote:I have no idea why I am getting so confused/can't get a straight answer anywhere, but for the MEE/MPT day, is each sitting 1 MPT and 3 essays, or is it morning session is 2 MPTs and then 6 essays in the afternoon or vice versa?

SplitMyPants wrote:is it just 3 hours total for both MPTs? or 90 minutes for each separately?
i had assumed a straight 3 hours for both divided as we see fit, but the instructions in themis say "you have 90 minutes for this portion of the exam," which is why i ask.

Found this on the BOLE UBE FAQ page (question 4):

The UBE is administered on the last Tuesday and Wednesday of February and July. During the morning session on Tuesday, applicants are given three hours to complete two Multistate Performance Test (MPT) items. Applicants may work on the MPTs in any order and they are free to decide how to allocate their time between the two MPT items although NCBE develops each MPT as a 90 minute test item. During the afternoon session on Tuesday, applicants are given three hours to answer six Multistate Essay Exam (MEE) questions. Again, applicants are free to answer the questions in any order and they may decide how to allocate their time among the MEE questions. On Wednesday, applicants will take the Multistate Bar Examination (MBE), which is a six-hour, 200 question multiple-choice exam divided into two three-hour sessions.

SplitMyPants · Post by **SplitMyPants** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:23 pm

Awesome---thanks!

Bass · Post by **Bass** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:33 am

http://www.nybarexam.org/Docs/secpolicy.pdf

No highlighters
No mechanical pencils
Only No. 2 pencils (what is that?)
No allowance for gender neutral hygiene products (tissue? toilet roll?)
Money is banned?

What in the flying h@ck!

msjdny · Post by **msjdny** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:42 am

Hi everyone, this thread has managed to keep me sane in the past few days, so thank you all.
I have a question, does anyone know if the Buffalo location has outlets for laptops?
Best of luck to everyone!!!

bda · Post by **bda** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:22 am

Bass wrote:http://www.nybarexam.org/Docs/secpolicy.pdf

No highlighters
No mechanical pencils
Only No. 2 pencils (what is that?)
No allowance for gender neutral hygiene products (tissue? toilet roll?)
Money is banned?

What in the flying h@ck!

Where do you see that money is banned?

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