BarBri - NY Exam - July 2014 Forum

[PennBull]

PSA: there seem to be way more New York choice of law analysis questions on essays than barbri lets on in the table of contents. They call them "federal procedure" topics as you use Erie to decide that the federal court should use NY choice of law, but then of course you do the NY choice of law analysis that the sample answers (rightfully) do

Every choice of law question was really simple, the only exception tested being that you use where the insurance contract was created for those claims

[TrustMeI'mAnActress]

PSA: there seem to be way more New York choice of law analysis questions on essays than barbri lets on in the table of contents. They call them "federal procedure" topics as you use Erie to decide that the federal court should use NY choice of law, but then of course you do the NY choice of law analysis that the sample answers (rightfully) do

Every choice of law question was really simple, the only exception tested being that you use where the insurance contract was created for those claims

Speaking of which, how much time have people spent studying Federal Jurisdiction, Conflict of Laws and Secured Transactions? Has anyone seen anything beyond the obvious covered in essays?

[PennBull]

Ha I spent all day studying those and then when I looked at essays I was thoroughly pissed off at how only the most basic of shit was tested

Most difficult part of secured transactions is actually determining that that is the issue tested, because sometimes I'll just go on an irrelevant contracts or property rant instead for zero points

[TrustMeI'mAnActress]

Ha I spent all day studying those and then when I looked at essays I was thoroughly pissed off at how only the most basic of shit was tested

Most difficult part of secured transactions is actually determining that that is the issue tested, because sometimes I'll just go on an irrelevant contracts or property rant instead for zero points

Well, maybe your studying was useful for NY Multiple Choice? Who really knows what those will be like...?

[PennBull]

Ha I'd hope so but Freer said Federal Procedure will only be on essays. Welp

[5ky]

Can anybody that has actually done any real bar questions instead of barbri's awful ones compare: (1) similarity in form/substance and (2) their performance/percent correct with the mixed set questions?

The ones I bought seem to be fairly similar...but after the sets 5 and even the SFE, the mixed sets just seem way too easy. I haven't done enough real ones to have an opinion yet. They just seem different....

I'm worried I'm going to get firehosed in the face on Wednesday.

5ky... ENLIGHTEN US!

Other than difficulty, I could not tell a difference between Barbri questions and the real ones. They "felt" the same. I actually thought they felt more similar than the questions from strategies and tactics, which I think were a little outdated.

Are the Barbri mixed sets real questions? I thought I vaguely remembered that being the case. at any rate I did about the same on the real thing as aggregating how I did on all of the 50q mixed sets.

[5ky]

However, I will say I can't remember a single easy question and only remember the hard ones. This is why you'll think you failed afterwards. I'm sure there were a ton of easy ones, but I only could focus on the high number of "unsures" that I was accumulating. This is normal.

[turquoiseturtle]

PSA: there seem to be way more New York choice of law analysis questions on essays than barbri lets on in the table of contents. They call them "federal procedure" topics as you use Erie to decide that the federal court should use NY choice of law, but then of course you do the NY choice of law analysis that the sample answers (rightfully) do

Every choice of law question was really simple, the only exception tested being that you use where the insurance contract was created for those claims

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.

[PennBull]

PSA: there seem to be way more New York choice of law analysis questions on essays than barbri lets on in the table of contents. They call them "federal procedure" topics as you use Erie to decide that the federal court should use NY choice of law, but then of course you do the NY choice of law analysis that the sample answers (rightfully) do

Every choice of law question was really simple, the only exception tested being that you use where the insurance contract was created for those claims

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.

Yeah I think recognition of judgment is more commonly a divorce/alimony type question

[lawyerwannabe]

PSA: there seem to be way more New York choice of law analysis questions on essays than barbri lets on in the table of contents. They call them "federal procedure" topics as you use Erie to decide that the federal court should use NY choice of law, but then of course you do the NY choice of law analysis that the sample answers (rightfully) do

Every choice of law question was really simple, the only exception tested being that you use where the insurance contract was created for those claims

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.

Yeah I think recognition of judgment is more commonly a divorce/alimony type question

Pretty much ignoring secured transactions, commercial paper (I know the elements of a negotiable instrument), partnership (I know about assignment and partner liability) and CivPro. Here is to hoping that if they show up in the essays, it is only one of them! There is just too much stuff for my brain to get all of this crap under my belt.

[overunderachiever]

PSA: there seem to be way more New York choice of law analysis questions on essays than barbri lets on in the table of contents. They call them "federal procedure" topics as you use Erie to decide that the federal court should use NY choice of law, but then of course you do the NY choice of law analysis that the sample answers (rightfully) do

Every choice of law question was really simple, the only exception tested being that you use where the insurance contract was created for those claims

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.

Yeah I think recognition of judgment is more commonly a divorce/alimony type question

Pretty much ignoring secured transactions, commercial paper (I know the elements of a negotiable instrument), partnership (I know about assignment and partner liability) and CivPro. Here is to hoping that if they show up in the essays, it is only one of them! There is just too much stuff for my brain to get all of this crap under my belt.

Commercial paper is on the exam!?!? O.O

[TrustMeI'mAnActress]

Commercial paper is on the exam!?!? O.O[/quote]

No!

[PennBull]

Hahahha cmon yall

[overunderachiever]

So according to Smartbarprep, future interests hasn't ever showed up, but Barbri's frequency chart has it showing up 6 times?

[thetashster]

never thought i'd say i was jealous of bar takers, but i'm jealous of all of you.

handwriting and two bars. bad bad bad life choices.

[TrustMeI'mAnActress]

What is everyone's approach to NY Practice? It's such an insane amount of detailed information. Are you just memorizing the major topics for essays and gambling on multiple choice?

[lawyerwannabe]

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.[/quote]

Yeah I think recognition of judgment is more commonly a divorce/alimony type question[/quote]

Pretty much ignoring secured transactions, commercial paper (I know the elements of a negotiable instrument), partnership (I know about assignment and partner liability) and CivPro. Here is to hoping that if they show up in the essays, it is only one of them! There is just too much stuff for my brain to get all of this crap under my belt.[/quote]

Commercial paper is on the exam!?!? O.O[/quote]

I am super gullible right now (vulnerable mental state). Is it not on the exam? I am so confused.

[thetashster]

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.

Yeah I think recognition of judgment is more commonly a divorce/alimony type question[/quote]

Pretty much ignoring secured transactions, commercial paper (I know the elements of a negotiable instrument), partnership (I know about assignment and partner liability) and CivPro. Here is to hoping that if they show up in the essays, it is only one of them! There is just too much stuff for my brain to get all of this crap under my belt.[/quote]

Commercial paper is on the exam!?!? O.O[/quote]

I am super gullible right now (vulnerable mental state). Is it not on the exam? I am so confused.[/quote]


commercial paper was removed for July 2014. don't worry about it.

[thetashster]

What is everyone's approach to NY Practice? It's such an insane amount of detailed information. Are you just memorizing the major topics for essays and gambling on multiple choice?

memorizing HIGH priority for NYP and some of the SOLs. NYP comes up in some other topics so i'm looking at the crossovers. and that's about it. i just can't deal with all that little stuff.

[PennBull]

Yeah I'm gonna do all of the statutes of limitation (there's not many actually and it WILL be on one or two essays as a sub topic), provisional remedies, the standards of review for failure to state a cause of condition, summary judgment and motion to dismiss

And then shooting myself

[thetashster]

Yeah I'm gonna do all of the statutes of limitation (there's not many actually and it WILL be on one or two essays as a sub topic), provisional remedies, the standards of review for failure to state a cause of condition, summary judgment and motion to dismiss

And then shooting myself

i wish you and guch's posts had a like button.

[lawyerwannabe]

Yes! I've been surprised as I've been reading the essays how frequently choice of law comes up, but isn't listed as one of the topics. I groan a tiny bit every time I see "State X." Agreed though that its always very very simple, either neumier/torts or insurance. As far as I can recall, its only been choice of law issues, I haven't seen any recognition of judgment at all.

Yeah I think recognition of judgment is more commonly a divorce/alimony type question

Pretty much ignoring secured transactions, commercial paper (I know the elements of a negotiable instrument), partnership (I know about assignment and partner liability) and CivPro. Here is to hoping that if they show up in the essays, it is only one of them! There is just too much stuff for my brain to get all of this crap under my belt.[/quote]

Commercial paper is on the exam!?!? O.O[/quote]

I am super gullible right now (vulnerable mental state). Is it not on the exam? I am so confused.[/quote]


commercial paper was removed for July 2014. don't worry about it.[/quote]

This is when you know this has gone on long enough.

[lawyerwannabe]

Also, when was the last time Federal Civil Procedure was on the exam?

Kind of seems like the NY Bar Examiners really have narrowed the field down to Wills, Family Law, Corporations, CPLR, PR and Trusts from just the purely NY topics.

[thetashster]

Also, when was the last time Federal Civil Procedure was on the exam?

Kind of seems like the NY Bar Examiners really have narrowed the field down to Wills, Family Law, Corporations, CPLR, PR and Trusts from just the purely NY topics.

and then it looks like crim/contracts/property for the major ones.

[MissLucky]

i didn't watch the part of the wills lecture on RAP. would it be a HUGE gamble to not listen to it at this point considering it was just tested in the winter and apparently comes up every 10 years? i know no one knows what will be on this exam, but have folks been studying that part of the lecture intently/was it too difficult in the first instance to even be worth me trying to understand the concept this late in the game?

i just have to much else to cover...just wondering what people who have heard that part of the lecture think...

thanks