Barbri paced program question? Forum

[crossem]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

[OklahomasOK]

Can someone repost that one page summary of commercial paper that was posted in one of the many topics floating around? looked around for a bit but couldnt find it

EDIT: Wait, just looked at my Barbri frequency chart and I don't see Commercial Paper as a topic my state tests...what am I missing? surely they wouldn't assign a subject that doesn't get tested?

Odds are if they teach it, it is on the bar. What state? In Texas it's listed under UCC.

[jd20132013]

It's Virginia.

I just found it, it's negotiable instruments. rarely tested so i won't be spending much time with it. i bet that means it'll be tested but whatever

[alicrimson]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

If you're talking about the answers provided in your barbri materials, they weren't the model answers written by the best student in that administration. The book says that the essay questions were the actual questions, but the answers were written by barbri. This, along with a lack of typos, tons of grammar and spelling errors, and a distinct lack of "rrrrrrrrr"s across the page, leads me to believe that barbri's friendly staff sat down and wrote these out with unlimited amounts of time and open notes. For a better look at what the average joe does, look at the sample questions and answers your state released, assuming it did. I did this, and it makes me feel so much better about the quality the examiners are looking for.

[jd20132013]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

If you're talking about the answers provided in your barbri materials, they weren't the model answers written by the best student in that administration. The book says that the essay questions were the actual questions, but the answers were written by barbri. This, along with a lack of typos, tons of grammar and spelling errors, and a distinct lack of "rrrrrrrrr"s across the page, leads me to believe that barbri's friendly staff sat down and wrote these out with unlimited amounts of time and open notes. For a better look at what the average joe does, look at the sample questions and answers your state released, assuming it did. I did this, and it makes me feel so much better about the quality the examiners are looking for.

where does it say that in the book? i believe you, of course, just interested to see what else is on that page since I haven't seen it

[bigstumpdriver]

I just got AdaptiBar. I feel jaded. These questions are too easy to be useful right guys? Just ripped through 50 and only got a few wrong HUH?

[LAWYER2]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

If you're talking about the answers provided in your barbri materials, they weren't the model answers written by the best student in that administration. The book says that the essay questions were the actual questions, but the answers were written by barbri. This, along with a lack of typos, tons of grammar and spelling errors, and a distinct lack of "rrrrrrrrr"s across the page, leads me to believe that barbri's friendly staff sat down and wrote these out with unlimited amounts of time and open notes. For a better look at what the average joe does, look at the sample questions and answers your state released, assuming it did. I did this, and it makes me feel so much better about the quality the examiners are looking for.

where does it say that in the book? i believe you, of course, just interested to see what else is on that page since I haven't seen it

It was mentioned several times in the Getting started, and Essay writing workshops.

[CaseClosed]

I'm starting to seriously hate Barbri. I have been following the paced program strictly for the past few months and I feel like I have learned nothing. I started doing MBE's through BarMax and just studying on my own and I feel ALOT better and have ALOT more memorized. Screw Barbri! Total waste

[peanut123]

I'm not sure if this was just random given the distribution of difficulty of questions but I sat down and highlighted on the answer key to the practice MBE the questions I got wrong and noticed that I got a TON wrong in the section 100-149, and I remember feeling kind of overwhelmed/sleepy at that point following lunch. Anyway, just wanted to share in case anyone wants to look for any patterns in their own work. Maybe you do poorly right at the beginning or at the very end, etc. It might help adjust behavior between now and then. I now know that I need to go for a walk and have a small cup of coffee during lunch, for example.

Edit to add: a ton wrong comparatively speaking. I got a ton wrong in every section, but more so in that group.

[alicrimson]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

If you're talking about the answers provided in your barbri materials, they weren't the model answers written by the best student in that administration. The book says that the essay questions were the actual questions, but the answers were written by barbri. This, along with a lack of typos, tons of grammar and spelling errors, and a distinct lack of "rrrrrrrrr"s across the page, leads me to believe that barbri's friendly staff sat down and wrote these out with unlimited amounts of time and open notes. For a better look at what the average joe does, look at the sample questions and answers your state released, assuming it did. I did this, and it makes me feel so much better about the quality the examiners are looking for.

where does it say that in the book? i believe you, of course, just interested to see what else is on that page since I haven't seen it

Unless Florida is different than yours, it's on the first page before the essays begin at the bottom of the page. Ours was in the Florida Testing I book.

[VulcanVulcanVulcan]

Can someone explain to me the difference between the two sets of essay questions in the New York Testing book? Are the examinee answers in the second set supposed to be "10" essays or average essays?

[OklahomasOK]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

If you're talking about the answers provided in your barbri materials, they weren't the model answers written by the best student in that administration. The book says that the essay questions were the actual questions, but the answers were written by barbri. This, along with a lack of typos, tons of grammar and spelling errors, and a distinct lack of "rrrrrrrrr"s across the page, leads me to believe that barbri's friendly staff sat down and wrote these out with unlimited amounts of time and open notes. For a better look at what the average joe does, look at the sample questions and answers your state released, assuming it did. I did this, and it makes me feel so much better about the quality the examiners are looking for.

Yep. Not sure what state you're taking but if your state has their own essay portion (not MEE), Barbri should have uploaded model answers to the previous exam. In Texas we have 12 essays over 6 hours. So when Barbri told us to spend 10 minutes reading and planning and 20 minutes typing, I didn't understand how they really expected us to type 2+ full, single-spaced pages resembling a treatise on Article 9/ family law/ oil & gas... et cetera. Looking at the answers they've uploaded to the most recently administered exam, they are a page and a half, at most. Most answers are about a page long with breaks in-between paragraphs. The answers given in your essay testing book are not realistically achievable. I've done pretty well sticking to a "no frills" CREAC method (consistently scored 22/25 on Barbri practice exams... #humblebrag). On the real thing, I expect to not do quite as well but I don't think I'll really bomb the essay portion if I don't write a restatement.

[beachbum]

Is there somewhere I can find the relative frequency of essay topics on the MEE? Trying to hedge my bets a little.

[mvpforme]

1. "I've only taken 1.5 days off since my Barbri course started in May"

2. Every 5 state essays or so I get totally destroyed by state law nuance - but this is according to the released model response. I'm trying to remember that the model responses are 1) not average and 2) probably typed by someone who has written a law review/whatever on that exact topic. That was her best essay, and did not repeat that performance 10+ times.

On the flip side, I'm worried I'm overly comforting myself. I hate this.

My model answers are verbatim from my long state outline book.

[AJS30]

I'm still really struggling with evidence....does anyone know of any good & quick additional resources that may help?

[jarofsoup]

I'm still really struggling with evidence....does anyone know of any good & quick additional resources that may help?

I found the EE for evidence to be amazing. It is also small. But it may be hard to digest this late in the game.

[bigstumpdriver]

I'm still really struggling with evidence....does anyone know of any good & quick additional resources that may help?

I found the EE for evidence to be amazing. It is also small. But it may be hard to digest this late in the game.

This late in the game"" i would use commercial flash cards.

[The Egyptian]

Question-- what exactly is a "physical symptom" in regards to negligent infliction of emotional distress?

heart attack / seizures / migranes / throwing up etc.

So the bar exam is guilty of NIED?

(Sorry, had to.)

on a side note, NIED can be established even if P didn't personally see the incident but HEARD it or perceived it with any other senses! That's a new one to me, (just got that mbe question wrong in studysmart).






**IDEA**

Let us post obscure Nuances that weren't readily ascertainable.

For instance: In most Jurisdictions, strict liability will be imposed on developers of tract housing if any injury results from an unreasonably dangerous defect in a house they constructed. (exception where builder only builds single home)

I like the **IDEA**
It's better than just posting stuff that makes us feel lost

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

-If hospital contracted with a janitor to clean hospital rooms, and a patient got an infection because the janitor didn't do their job, the patient DOES NOT have a cause of action against the janitor, because he is a third party beneficiary! This is from NCBE

-A parent with his child will recover for NEID if he and his child was almost hit by a car driver if he was driving with negligence.

[jd20132013]

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

I just learned this one too, from Emanuels as well.

I just learned that spousal immunity doesn't apply in a civil case. Maybe that was obvious to everyone but it was surprising to me

[The Egyptian]

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

I just learned this one too, from Emanuels as well.

I just learned that spousal immunity doesn't apply in a civil case. Maybe that was obvious to everyone but it was surprising to me

I wouldn't trust a spouse in either

-A conviction of felony murder will fail if the underlying felony was man slaughter, but will not fail if the underlying felony was rape (not sure if this will apply in NY)

[lmr]

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

I just learned this one too, from Emanuels as well.

I just learned that spousal immunity doesn't apply in a civil case. Maybe that was obvious to everyone but it was surprising to me

Omg you are confusing me....that does not sound right. Spousal immunity still applies in civil cases just not civil suits where the spouse is suing the other (divorce, custody)...RIGHT?!

[jd20132013]

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

I just learned this one too, from Emanuels as well.

I just learned that spousal immunity doesn't apply in a civil case. Maybe that was obvious to everyone but it was surprising to me

Omg you are confusing me....that does not sound right. Spousal immunity still applies in civil cases just not civil suits where the spouse is suing the other (divorce, custody)...RIGHT?!

well, i got this directly from question 12 in Evidence StudySmart set 4...

EDIT: Pull up that question online, and click on the last blue CMR link in the question explanation, it'll take you to a link that says exactly that. I don't think it's in the actual text of the answer.

[LAWYER2]

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

Nice!

Another sweet fact i learned about JT's today:

A mortgage on a Joint Tenancy does NOT sever the joint tenancy in a Lien Theory (majority) state. However it will sever the JT in title theory states.


Hmmm . . . I wonder if we should site the source for independent verification.

[lmr]

-In joint tenancy, if one tenant defaults on a loan, and the creditor gets a judgment lien, the lien won't just be effective if recorded. It has to be executed during the life time of the debtor joint tenant. If the debtor, dies before that, the alive joint tenant(s) prevail against creditor.

I just learned this one too, from Emanuels as well.

I just learned that spousal immunity doesn't apply in a civil case. Maybe that was obvious to everyone but it was surprising to me

Omg you are confusing me....that does not sound right. Spousal immunity still applies in civil cases just not civil suits where the spouse is suing the other (divorce, custody)...RIGHT?!

well, i got this directly from question 12 in Evidence StudySmart set 4...

EDIT: Pull up that question online, and click on the last blue CMR link in the question explanation, it'll take you to a link that says exactly that. I don't think it's in the actual text of the answer.

I'm looking directly at that question right now-divorced couple civil suit re insurance correct answer is that ex-wife cannot be called to testify against her ex-husband. Further, answer choice B is incorrect but privilege DOES apply to civil cases. Reread that question/answer.

BTW this is not a spousal immunity question (that lasts until divorce) this question is a confidential communication made during marriage privilege

[The Egyptian]

Simply:

Spousal privileges/Applies in /Apply Any criminal proceeding/to matters existed during marriage.......if marriage still exists, then to matters before marriage too.
(Remember, if state has it's own privilege law, it will apply if it is a state civil action)

I believe that the exception that is related to divorce/child custody is an exception to admissibility of character evidence.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.