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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by nelife22 » Sun May 29, 2016 11:59 am

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p.s. was a repeater and passed feb 16...I believe these helped me a lot I did MBE score services and I got between a 145-150 scaled score for MBE. (I know this because I scored high enough to auto pass Minnesota at 145, but not high enough for North Dakota at 150.) Making approximations I made about a 15-20 point raw improvement from July 15. If you guys have any other questions, let me know too.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by Zebra » Sun May 29, 2016 4:06 pm

For those of you who passed on the second try, what did you do differently the second time around? What was your typical study day like? Did you write out any outlines? (some people have suggested creating your own outline, or checklists/attack plans)

How about essays? To outline or write out? How many? How often? Did you use the CA State Bar Past Exams & Models? Or Barbri Essay Book? Or BarEssays.com? Did you begin with substantive review followed by practice? Or simultaneously?

MBE: How many is ideal per day? How to review? [some suggest reviewing both correct and incorrect answers - wouldn't this take up too much time?] And what exactly takes place during "review"? This is the step I am most confused about. I have been looking up the rule for that corresponding question I missed, writing it out, reading the question over again and making sure I understand that subtopic. I end up going into too much detail and spending a lot of time on just a few questions because I'm trying to find any and every possible way that sub-topic can be tested.

What method works best for truly understanding why a wrong answer was chosen? Did anyone keep a record of questions they did that were reviewed? [If I read a question and really can't figure out the answer, do I still choose an answer or try to find the rule in my outline/CMR before attempting?

Also, having multiple sources is overwhelming me since I find myself constantly trying to decide which source/prep material to use. I currently have:
1. Adaptibar (including Lecture access)
2. CriticalPass Flash Cards (not using this)
3. emmanuel Law in a Flash (flashcards)
4. emmanuel Strategies & Tactics for the MBE (the red and blue book)
5. Barbri (not really using this)
6. BarEssays.com
7. Essay Exam Writing for the CA Bar Exam, Mary Basick (this book was helpful, but haven't used it yet this time around)
8. Outlines/Checklists (short and long)

I'm having a hard time sticking to a concrete study schedule and following through with it. I really want to have a daily procedure to follow since routine improves long-term memory + it's the most efficient/effective method for passing. Last time around, I think I overstudied and didn't stick to a simple study schedule with consistent material.

And to top everything, I've wasted two weeks already (since results) - haven't been seriously studying. :|

ANY FEEDBACK/TIPS/ADVICE/ETC. APPRECIATED!!! And congrats to everyone who passed!

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by rcharter1978 » Sun May 29, 2016 4:42 pm

^^I think the overabundance of resources is a big problem. Because everyone has their own story, and their own things that worked for them...its easy to look for a magic bullet in all of that. So, if person A says "this worked for me!" than there is a temptation to run out and get that.

But let me ask you....what worked for you in law school? Did you have a particular study style that worked for you?

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by a male human » Sun May 29, 2016 5:41 pm

Zebra wrote:For those of you who passed on the second try, what did you do differently the second time around? What was your typical study day like? Did you write out any outlines? (some people have suggested creating your own outline, or checklists/attack plans)

How about essays? To outline or write out? How many? How often? Did you use the CA State Bar Past Exams & Models? Or Barbri Essay Book? Or BarEssays.com? Did you begin with substantive review followed by practice? Or simultaneously?

MBE: How many is ideal per day? How to review? [some suggest reviewing both correct and incorrect answers - wouldn't this take up too much time?] And what exactly takes place during "review"? This is the step I am most confused about. I have been looking up the rule for that corresponding question I missed, writing it out, reading the question over again and making sure I understand that subtopic. I end up going into too much detail and spending a lot of time on just a few questions because I'm trying to find any and every possible way that sub-topic can be tested.

What method works best for truly understanding why a wrong answer was chosen? Did anyone keep a record of questions they did that were reviewed? [If I read a question and really can't figure out the answer, do I still choose an answer or try to find the rule in my outline/CMR before attempting?

Also, having multiple sources is overwhelming me since I find myself constantly trying to decide which source/prep material to use. I currently have:
1. Adaptibar (including Lecture access)
2. CriticalPass Flash Cards (not using this)
3. emmanuel Law in a Flash (flashcards)
4. emmanuel Strategies & Tactics for the MBE (the red and blue book)
5. Barbri (not really using this)
6. BarEssays.com
7. Essay Exam Writing for the CA Bar Exam, Mary Basick (this book was helpful, but haven't used it yet this time around)
8. Outlines/Checklists (short and long)

I'm having a hard time sticking to a concrete study schedule and following through with it. I really want to have a daily procedure to follow since routine improves long-term memory + it's the most efficient/effective method for passing. Last time around, I think I overstudied and didn't stick to a simple study schedule with consistent material.

And to top everything, I've wasted two weeks already (since results) - haven't been seriously studying. :|

ANY FEEDBACK/TIPS/ADVICE/ETC. APPRECIATED!!! And congrats to everyone who passed!
This may help: http://www.barexamtoolbox.com/5-things- ... -bar-exam/

Like rcharter suggested, don't get lost in specific tactics (e.g., do X number of MBE questions a day). Instead, adopt a few broad strategies that will net you the most returns.

Moreover, the link describes what worked for ME; it's not "advice" (although it looks like it was generally helpful based on the comments from other repeaters). You shouldn't listen to me or anyone else unless you find it interesting or useful enough for you to want to try it.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by Zebra » Mon May 30, 2016 2:39 am

rcharter1978 wrote:^^I think the overabundance of resources is a big problem. Because everyone has their own story, and their own things that worked for them...its easy to look for a magic bullet in all of that. So, if person A says "this worked for me!" than there is a temptation to run out and get that.

But let me ask you....what worked for you in law school? Did you have a particular study style that worked for you?

In law school I made my own outlines, flashcards, and wrote out essays to previous hypos the professor had used for his final. Because each semester involved 4-5 topics, it was obviously more doable. Also, no MBE's or very little of it. With bar prep, I find myself in writers block very frequently. For example, it took me an hour to write out analysis for Duty of Care under Negligence (literally kept deleting/re-writing) - I don't know why, it feels like it's the first hypo I've done ever. UGH.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by Zebra » Mon May 30, 2016 2:48 am

a male human wrote:
Zebra wrote:For those of you who passed on the second try, what did you do differently the second time around? What was your typical study day like? Did you write out any outlines? (some people have suggested creating your own outline, or checklists/attack plans)

How about essays? To outline or write out? How many? How often? Did you use the CA State Bar Past Exams & Models? Or Barbri Essay Book? Or BarEssays.com? Did you begin with substantive review followed by practice? Or simultaneously?

MBE: How many is ideal per day? How to review? [some suggest reviewing both correct and incorrect answers - wouldn't this take up too much time?] And what exactly takes place during "review"? This is the step I am most confused about. I have been looking up the rule for that corresponding question I missed, writing it out, reading the question over again and making sure I understand that subtopic. I end up going into too much detail and spending a lot of time on just a few questions because I'm trying to find any and every possible way that sub-topic can be tested.

What method works best for truly understanding why a wrong answer was chosen? Did anyone keep a record of questions they did that were reviewed? [If I read a question and really can't figure out the answer, do I still choose an answer or try to find the rule in my outline/CMR before attempting?

Also, having multiple sources is overwhelming me since I find myself constantly trying to decide which source/prep material to use. I currently have:
1. Adaptibar (including Lecture access)
2. CriticalPass Flash Cards (not using this)
3. emmanuel Law in a Flash (flashcards)
4. emmanuel Strategies & Tactics for the MBE (the red and blue book)
5. Barbri (not really using this)
6. BarEssays.com
7. Essay Exam Writing for the CA Bar Exam, Mary Basick (this book was helpful, but haven't used it yet this time around)
8. Outlines/Checklists (short and long)

I'm having a hard time sticking to a concrete study schedule and following through with it. I really want to have a daily procedure to follow since routine improves long-term memory + it's the most efficient/effective method for passing. Last time around, I think I overstudied and didn't stick to a simple study schedule with consistent material.

And to top everything, I've wasted two weeks already (since results) - haven't been seriously studying. :|

ANY FEEDBACK/TIPS/ADVICE/ETC. APPRECIATED!!! And congrats to everyone who passed!
This may help: http://www.barexamtoolbox.com/5-things- ... -bar-exam/

Like rcharter suggested, don't get lost in specific tactics (e.g., do X number of MBE questions a day). Instead, adopt a few broad strategies that will net you the most returns.

Moreover, the link describes what worked for ME; it's not "advice" (although it looks like it was generally helpful based on the comments from other repeaters). You shouldn't listen to me or anyone else unless you find it interesting or useful enough for you to want to try it.

Thank you! I've read the article a few times actually, and very helpful reading it again. It just reminded me to follow my previous method of doing practice essays with brief analysis - and this time around to delve more into the MBE's since that's where my score was weak.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by rcharter1978 » Mon May 30, 2016 4:18 am

Zebra wrote:
rcharter1978 wrote:^^I think the overabundance of resources is a big problem. Because everyone has their own story, and their own things that worked for them...its easy to look for a magic bullet in all of that. So, if person A says "this worked for me!" than there is a temptation to run out and get that.

But let me ask you....what worked for you in law school? Did you have a particular study style that worked for you?

In law school I made my own outlines, flashcards, and wrote out essays to previous hypos the professor had used for his final. Because each semester involved 4-5 topics, it was obviously more doable. Also, no MBE's or very little of it. With bar prep, I find myself in writers block very frequently. For example, it took me an hour to write out analysis for Duty of Care under Negligence (literally kept deleting/re-writing) - I don't know why, it feels like it's the first hypo I've done ever. UGH.
Those are all things people have done with varying degrees of success. Of course there are more topics, but I think people have done their own outlines.

Maybe you want to try doing the outlines first....from the lecture notes/CMR. That will give you the base knowledge for a particular subject.

Once you've done the outline for a subject.....studied a topic....then you can move onto doing MBE questions in the topic. That way you can get both general and specific rules....and perhaps some rule statements you like. You'll also get a handle on whether or not you have a problem with the BLL, or where you may have some holes in your knowledge.

After you've done some MBE on a topic....reviewed them.....then you can do the essays. Perhaps at first you simply issue spot, or perhaps you write out a full essay. Maybe if you issue spot first -- and then read the sample essay from Barbri or BarEssays....you can get a better idea of how you want to phrase your rule statements.

I think when you're a perfectionist, its easy to want to write the perfect rule statements....and I know I struggled with that (not that I'm so perfect, I'm just not super awesome at rule statements).

If you're really struggling with the essays, move on and try something else first. I think outlining first, MBE's second, essays third may get your mind going.

Or maybe you try MBE's first, outlining second and essays third (I always started with the CMR/outlining first because I never felt comfortable otherwise)

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by Zebra » Mon May 30, 2016 4:24 am

rcharter1978 wrote:
Zebra wrote:
rcharter1978 wrote:^^I think the overabundance of resources is a big problem. Because everyone has their own story, and their own things that worked for them...its easy to look for a magic bullet in all of that. So, if person A says "this worked for me!" than there is a temptation to run out and get that.

But let me ask you....what worked for you in law school? Did you have a particular study style that worked for you?

In law school I made my own outlines, flashcards, and wrote out essays to previous hypos the professor had used for his final. Because each semester involved 4-5 topics, it was obviously more doable. Also, no MBE's or very little of it. With bar prep, I find myself in writers block very frequently. For example, it took me an hour to write out analysis for Duty of Care under Negligence (literally kept deleting/re-writing) - I don't know why, it feels like it's the first hypo I've done ever. UGH.
Those are all things people have done with varying degrees of success. Of course there are more topics, but I think people have done their own outlines.

Maybe you want to try doing the outlines first....from the lecture notes/CMR. That will give you the base knowledge for a particular subject.

Once you've done the outline for a subject.....studied a topic....then you can move onto doing MBE questions in the topic. That way you can get both general and specific rules....and perhaps some rule statements you like. You'll also get a handle on whether or not you have a problem with the BLL, or where you may have some holes in your knowledge.

After you've done some MBE on a topic....reviewed them.....then you can do the essays. Perhaps at first you simply issue spot, or perhaps you write out a full essay. Maybe if you issue spot first -- and then read the sample essay from Barbri or BarEssays....you can get a better idea of how you want to phrase your rule statements.

I think when you're a perfectionist, its easy to want to write the perfect rule statements....and I know I struggled with that (not that I'm so perfect, I'm just not super awesome at rule statements).

If you're really struggling with the essays, move on and try something else first. I think outlining first, MBE's second, essays third may get your mind going.

Or maybe you try MBE's first, outlining second and essays third (I always started with the CMR/outlining first because I never felt comfortable otherwise)

Thanks for the feedback. I think i feel comfortable too with outlining at first, followed by practice. Otherwise I'm discouraged by attempting MBE's or essays without substantive review :/ so yeah the whole approach about just practicing without initial review does not work for me.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by rcharter1978 » Mon May 30, 2016 5:51 am

Zebra wrote:
rcharter1978 wrote:
Zebra wrote:
rcharter1978 wrote:^^I think the overabundance of resources is a big problem. Because everyone has their own story, and their own things that worked for them...its easy to look for a magic bullet in all of that. So, if person A says "this worked for me!" than there is a temptation to run out and get that.

But let me ask you....what worked for you in law school? Did you have a particular study style that worked for you?

In law school I made my own outlines, flashcards, and wrote out essays to previous hypos the professor had used for his final. Because each semester involved 4-5 topics, it was obviously more doable. Also, no MBE's or very little of it. With bar prep, I find myself in writers block very frequently. For example, it took me an hour to write out analysis for Duty of Care under Negligence (literally kept deleting/re-writing) - I don't know why, it feels like it's the first hypo I've done ever. UGH.
Those are all things people have done with varying degrees of success. Of course there are more topics, but I think people have done their own outlines.

Maybe you want to try doing the outlines first....from the lecture notes/CMR. That will give you the base knowledge for a particular subject.

Once you've done the outline for a subject.....studied a topic....then you can move onto doing MBE questions in the topic. That way you can get both general and specific rules....and perhaps some rule statements you like. You'll also get a handle on whether or not you have a problem with the BLL, or where you may have some holes in your knowledge.

After you've done some MBE on a topic....reviewed them.....then you can do the essays. Perhaps at first you simply issue spot, or perhaps you write out a full essay. Maybe if you issue spot first -- and then read the sample essay from Barbri or BarEssays....you can get a better idea of how you want to phrase your rule statements.

I think when you're a perfectionist, its easy to want to write the perfect rule statements....and I know I struggled with that (not that I'm so perfect, I'm just not super awesome at rule statements).

If you're really struggling with the essays, move on and try something else first. I think outlining first, MBE's second, essays third may get your mind going.

Or maybe you try MBE's first, outlining second and essays third (I always started with the CMR/outlining first because I never felt comfortable otherwise)

Thanks for the feedback. I think i feel comfortable too with outlining at first, followed by practice. Otherwise I'm discouraged by attempting MBE's or essays without substantive review :/ so yeah the whole approach about just practicing without initial review does not work for me.
I TOTALLY understand. I took a bar repeaters course and it was expected to just jump in and start writing/doing essays. I had to sort of re-mold the class to work for me, because not only was it depressing and frustrating.....it often cemented the wrong information into my head. Instead of KNOWING something from the outline/CMR.....I was sort of be guessing...and then the "guessed" information would be in my head.

I think that everyone means well....but everyone has a different study style and I'm not sure there is a magic pill for everyone, in terms of how to study.

But don't get discouraged and don't give up. You can do this....just do what makes sense for you. No one is more of an expert on your study style than you.

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Post by Right in Two » Mon May 30, 2016 7:40 pm

Zebra wrote:For those of you who passed on the second try, what did you do differently the second time around? What was your typical study day like? Did you write out any outlines? (some people have suggested creating your own outline, or checklists/attack plans)

How about essays? To outline or write out? How many? How often? Did you use the CA State Bar Past Exams & Models? Or Barbri Essay Book? Or BarEssays.com? Did you begin with substantive review followed by practice? Or simultaneously?

MBE: How many is ideal per day? How to review? [some suggest reviewing both correct and incorrect answers - wouldn't this take up too much time?] And what exactly takes place during "review"? This is the step I am most confused about. I have been looking up the rule for that corresponding question I missed, writing it out, reading the question over again and making sure I understand that subtopic. I end up going into too much detail and spending a lot of time on just a few questions because I'm trying to find any and every possible way that sub-topic can be tested.

What method works best for truly understanding why a wrong answer was chosen? Did anyone keep a record of questions they did that were reviewed? [If I read a question and really can't figure out the answer, do I still choose an answer or try to find the rule in my outline/CMR before attempting?

Also, having multiple sources is overwhelming me since I find myself constantly trying to decide which source/prep material to use. I currently have:
1. Adaptibar (including Lecture access)
2. CriticalPass Flash Cards (not using this)
3. emmanuel Law in a Flash (flashcards)
4. emmanuel Strategies & Tactics for the MBE (the red and blue book)
5. Barbri (not really using this)
6. BarEssays.com
7. Essay Exam Writing for the CA Bar Exam, Mary Basick (this book was helpful, but haven't used it yet this time around)
8. Outlines/Checklists (short and long)

I'm having a hard time sticking to a concrete study schedule and following through with it. I really want to have a daily procedure to follow since routine improves long-term memory + it's the most efficient/effective method for passing. Last time around, I think I overstudied and didn't stick to a simple study schedule with consistent material.

And to top everything, I've wasted two weeks already (since results) - haven't been seriously studying. :|

ANY FEEDBACK/TIPS/ADVICE/ETC. APPRECIATED!!! And congrats to everyone who passed!
Great advice all around from this forum. I just wanted to also add that your most valuable resource as a repeater is your score sheet. It can really help you understand where you can score the most points the next time. For example:

Weak MBE + Strong Essays -> Biggest value-add will be from rule memorization/outlining (and lots of practice MBEs).
Strong MBE + Weak Essays -> Biggest value-add will be from practice issue spotting and IRACing.

That is not to say that you should ignore other study resources - I agree that it is worthwhile to do some substantive review of a subject before moving on to practice. Just make sure to target your weaknesses because there are likely easier points to be gained in those areas.

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Post by a male human » Mon May 30, 2016 7:57 pm

^ Yup, I'll add on a couple more

Weak MBE + weak essays
--> Consistent essay scores? (all in same range like 55-60) Work on IRAC
--> Essay scores vary? Need to know the law better and possibly need to work on IRAC

"Blah" across the board (everything is just OK)
--> PTs are your MED (minimally effective dose -- what Right in Two called biggest value-add) since they are worth 2x essays

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Post by MrMustache » Tue May 31, 2016 12:23 am

Do any of you happen to know if they'll have extra registration cards at the swearing-in ceremony?

Edit: Called the Membership Enrollment number this morning and they said that there will be extra registration cards at the ceremony.
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Does anyone know when model answers are normally posted?

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Does anyone know if the adaptibar web page is working? Im trying to register for the free trial and it doesn't submit my info (tried to pay also and it didn't work).

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Post by RoseBuddy » Tue May 31, 2016 1:35 pm

Zebra wrote:Does anyone know when model answers are normally posted?
Just checked, looks like the sample answers have been posted!

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First post ever... because I thought my experience might give some encouragement to those who feel hopeless about the bar and maybe something I did can become part of your study program that will help you succeed. I know some of these posts helped me tremendously and I am very thankful for them.

I went against all statistics:
Foreign attorney, check
Repeater, check
Non ABA-school, check
Foreign jurisdiction non-common law (civil law), check
First language not English (Spanish), check
February bar taker, check
Score of 1200 or under in first two tries, check
Non-BarBri taker, check

I took the California bar exam three times, first in February 2010 with a score of 1145, second in July 2014 with a score of 1200, third in February 2016 when I passed :P with an MBE score of 150 or above (I know this because I requested their score advisory which met or exceeded the requirement for North Dakota, which is 150).

How did I do it? One sentence: I was invested! I firmly believe that the only way to pass the California bar exam (for us mortals) is to invest yourself= time and effort, compromising and working on it every day, little by little. One does not learn to defeat this beast overnight, it takes time and hard work.

You have probably read hundreds of times by now (so did I) that there is no plan that fits all and everyone has their own program that fits them, well this is true... but I do believe that the ideas you pick from everyone help you come up with your own plan/program, this is how I came up with mine.

If you want any specifics, please send me a message but, in short, I based my take-off plan with Be a Goat by Jessica Klein.

Essays:
I did complete practice essays for each area tested until I had seen every scenario tested since 2002 (some more than once and some from years before 2002).
Sources I used:
I bought all materials suggested in Jessica Klein's book, except for the flash cards for rules of law (I'm not a flashcard person) which I substituted with the Conviser (BarBri).
I ended up not using BarBreaker by Jeff Adachi (one of the books suggested in Jessica Klein's book) because I felt that his style confused me but I have heard it works for a lot of people, once again, you must find what works for you.
What I added:
The Bar Code Cheat Sheets in Action by Whitney Roberts.
BarEssays.com (full access, A MUST for me!)

MBE's:
I did 35 questions every day, except for Sundays, reviewed correct and incorrect answers and wrote the rule down for each answer incorrect or those which were correct out of luck not because I knew the answer.
Sources I used:
Kaplan PMBR Qbank
BarBri MBE book and simulated MBE exam book
Adaptibar
Note for your 'waiting for results time': I felt horrible after the MBE exam day, I felt like I was guessing every question and this caused me to suffer during the wait for the results thinking it was the reason for my failure. As you can see above, I was wrong and I did good on the MBE's, you just never know.

Performance Test:
I did one complete performance test every Sunday.
Sources I used:
BarBri Performance Test book
BarEssays.com
Past released PT questions/answers in the CA Bar website
Note for your 'preparation/study time': I was terrified when the exam date approached because I was never able to finish a practice performance test but on test days I finished both PTA and PTB.

I know all this information is a lot to swallow, once again, if I can be of help, send me a message.

NEVER give up!

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Post by pinaylawyer » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:27 pm

^ thank you for this! we're on the same page. except that this will be my first time. foreign attorney, civil law, second language, etc .

may i ask if you took a time off from work and how many months did you study?

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Post by publicservant101 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:54 pm

I passed. I can barely believe the words as I'm typing them. I finally had a friend open the envelope for me. I honestly never thought I would see this day. This was my fifth time taking it and I could never figure out why my writing scores were so low. MBE was always solid. Essay and PTs were shit. utter shit.

1st time -- Barbri - score 1405
2nd time -- barwinners-- SCAM ALERT (did you know they had to settle/pay restitution for falsely advertising a 90% pass rate? Still waiting for my $12K refund check Shari Karney you goddam lying b$)@_#*$&.) Score -- 1398

3rd time -- Took 2 years off, decided to dive back in with self study, handwrote like an idiot. Score == 1370
4th time -- self study, typed like a normal person, OH SO CLOSE -- Score -- 1415

5th time -- THE CHARM? Hired John Crossfield. Loved his demeanor (calm, collected, organized). He freaking nailed my writing weaknesses (I was missing points leaving out obvious statements to link facts to law, and I wasn't writing rule statements or memorizing them beforehand). Dude. John Crossfield. I love you man. I freaking love you. I couldn't crack the puzzle without you, and I owe you my entire future.

Now to figure out what that future looks like. Love you all. == Bro out.

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Peace out bro, no need for those dark thoughts anymore 8)

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Post by lawgrad2015 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:41 pm

pinaylawyer wrote:^ thank you for this! we're on the same page. except that this will be my first time. foreign attorney, civil law, second language, etc .

may i ask if you took a time off from work and how many months did you study?
I did take time from work but I have three children that I cared for while studying. I think that an important step I missed in my original post was that I started studying early (around September) about 3 or 4 hours a day, moving up to around 10 hours when the test was closer.

The secret is doing something every day, practice practice practice. I am not very good at memorizing and by doing it stuck in my head.

I hope this helps!

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Post by rcharter1978 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:11 am

publicservant101 wrote:I passed. I can barely believe the words as I'm typing them. I finally had a friend open the envelope for me. I honestly never thought I would see this day. This was my fifth time taking it and I could never figure out why my writing scores were so low. MBE was always solid. Essay and PTs were shit. utter shit.

1st time -- Barbri - score 1405
2nd time -- barwinners-- SCAM ALERT (did you know they had to settle/pay restitution for falsely advertising a 90% pass rate? Still waiting for my $12K refund check Shari Karney you goddam lying b$)@_#*$&.) Score -- 1398

3rd time -- Took 2 years off, decided to dive back in with self study, handwrote like an idiot. Score == 1370
4th time -- self study, typed like a normal person, OH SO CLOSE -- Score -- 1415

5th time -- THE CHARM? Hired John Crossfield. Loved his demeanor (calm, collected, organized). He freaking nailed my writing weaknesses (I was missing points leaving out obvious statements to link facts to law, and I wasn't writing rule statements or memorizing them beforehand). Dude. John Crossfield. I love you man. I freaking love you. I couldn't crack the puzzle without you, and I owe you my entire future.

Now to figure out what that future looks like. Love you all. == Bro out.
Congratulations!

And good information about barwinners.....its awful to inflate success rates.

I've heard good things about John Crossfield, but he is pretty pricey and he was full by the time I decided to spend the $$ for his program.

So glad you passed!

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by MarcZero » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:27 am

Friend of mine who unfortunately didn't pass this time asked me to snag an Adaptibar code if possible. If anyone has an extra one I could pass on to him, please PM me; I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

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Check your PMs for $60 off for your friend

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Post by CAorbust » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:42 pm

Hi! Long time reader of these forums....just took CA in Feb. did not go so great. Here is my breakdown. If you have any advice, please let me know. I think I was close but not really sure.

Raw written- 615
Scaled Written- 1433
Scaled MBE- 1389

Total Scaled 1418.1836

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Post by a male human » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:51 pm

CAorbust wrote:Hi! Long time reader of these forums....just took CA in Feb. did not go so great. Here is my breakdown. If you have any advice, please let me know. I think I was close but not really sure.

Raw written- 615
Scaled Written- 1433
Scaled MBE- 1389

Total Scaled 1418.1836
You were pretty close... mind giving us a breakdown of all the essay and PT scores?

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

Now there's a charge.
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