February 2016 California Bar Exam Forum

[BrokenMouse]

Also, for those who were asking...I called the San Fran Cali Bar office and they said we are "required to go and see the location" on Monday between 2-4...Don't think I can spare the study time though.

Why? That sounds strange.

Not sure if the woman was trying to get me off the phone. But she used the exact words that I stated. I've read the attached bulletin re the allowed items but still wanted to know if there will be an area to put my lunch. No way I can go through the afternoon session without eating and I can't risk leaving my fate to getting lunch while I'm there.

At least in Pasadena ppl just leave all their belongings against the wall in the lounge. I leave all my stuff in the car.

Is that safe? I was going to go just with my pc and a clear bag with permitted objects. No phone, no way to talk to someone if something goes wrong. I don't want to take the risk of my things being stealed... Also is there Wifi connection in Pasadena test center?

No wifi. U dont need a phone. Plenty of restaurants across the street.

[FinallyPassedTheBar]

At Pasadena, they have this brown cardboard boxes where people are just supposed to deposit their cell phones. All mixed up with no sorting process. Strange

[Zaizei]

I see... Thanks for the info. I'll only bring with me permitted things

[bigpapi]

Is that safe? I was going to go just with my pc and a clear bag with permitted objects. No phone, no way to talk to someone if something goes wrong. I don't want to take the risk of my things being stealed... Also is there Wifi connection in Pasadena test center?

It's safe, but if you don't feel comfortable don't worry about it.

[MrMustache]

Also, for those who were asking...I called the San Fran Cali Bar office and they said we are "required to go and see the location" on Monday between 2-4...Don't think I can spare the study time though.

Why? That sounds strange.

Not sure if the woman was trying to get me off the phone. But she used the exact words that I stated. I've read the attached bulletin re the allowed items but still wanted to know if there will be an area to put my lunch. No way I can go through the afternoon session without eating and I can't risk leaving my fate to getting lunch while I'm there.

At least in Pasadena ppl just leave all their belongings against the wall in the lounge. I leave all my stuff in the car.

Is that safe? I was going to go just with my pc and a clear bag with permitted objects. No phone, no way to talk to someone if something goes wrong. I don't want to take the risk of my things being stealed... Also is there Wifi connection in Pasadena test center?

There was a surprisingly large number of people taking bathroom breaks during essays. I'm still convinced they were going to check outlines on their phones. So as far as phones go...

[Zaizei]

Also, for those who were asking...I called the San Fran Cali Bar office and they said we are "required to go and see the location" on Monday between 2-4...Don't think I can spare the study time though.

Why? That sounds strange.

Not sure if the woman was trying to get me off the phone. But she used the exact words that I stated. I've read the attached bulletin re the allowed items but still wanted to know if there will be an area to put my lunch. No way I can go through the afternoon session without eating and I can't risk leaving my fate to getting lunch while I'm there.

At least in Pasadena ppl just leave all their belongings against the wall in the lounge. I leave all my stuff in the car.

Is that safe? I was going to go just with my pc and a clear bag with permitted objects. No phone, no way to talk to someone if something goes wrong. I don't want to take the risk of my things being stealed... Also is there Wifi connection in Pasadena test center?

There was a surprisingly large number of people taking bathroom breaks during essays. I'm still convinced they were going to check outlines on their phones. So as far as phones go...

I think you have to leave your stuff out of the "safe/security area" so you can't access your phone, at least you can't and after come inside the test area again.

[Raiden]

Also, for those who were asking...I called the San Fran Cali Bar office and they said we are "required to go and see the location" on Monday between 2-4...Don't think I can spare the study time though.

Why? That sounds strange.

Not sure if the woman was trying to get me off the phone. But she used the exact words that I stated. I've read the attached bulletin re the allowed items but still wanted to know if there will be an area to put my lunch. No way I can go through the afternoon session without eating and I can't risk leaving my fate to getting lunch while I'm there.

At least in Pasadena ppl just leave all their belongings against the wall in the lounge. I leave all my stuff in the car.

Is that safe? I was going to go just with my pc and a clear bag with permitted objects. No phone, no way to talk to someone if something goes wrong. I don't want to take the risk of my things being stealed... Also is there Wifi connection in Pasadena test center?

There was a surprisingly large number of people taking bathroom breaks during essays. I'm still convinced they were going to check outlines on their phones. So as far as phones go...

That seems way to risky. You'd have to have your phone on your person and if someone caught you, that probably would affect your moral character application. I just left my phone in my backpack in the lounge and risked someone stealing it.

[BrokenMouse]

Also, for those who were asking...I called the San Fran Cali Bar office and they said we are "required to go and see the location" on Monday between 2-4...Don't think I can spare the study time though.

Why? That sounds strange.

Not sure if the woman was trying to get me off the phone. But she used the exact words that I stated. I've read the attached bulletin re the allowed items but still wanted to know if there will be an area to put my lunch. No way I can go through the afternoon session without eating and I can't risk leaving my fate to getting lunch while I'm there.

At least in Pasadena ppl just leave all their belongings against the wall in the lounge. I leave all my stuff in the car.

Is that safe? I was going to go just with my pc and a clear bag with permitted objects. No phone, no way to talk to someone if something goes wrong. I don't want to take the risk of my things being stealed... Also is there Wifi connection in Pasadena test center?

There was a surprisingly large number of people taking bathroom breaks during essays. I'm still convinced they were going to check outlines on their phones. So as far as phones go...

That seems way to risky. You'd have to have your phone on your person and if someone caught you, that probably would affect your moral character application. I just left my phone in my backpack in the lounge and risked someone stealing it.

Why do you need your phone on you at all times? Just leave it in the car?

[Raiden]

I didn't park there and had my brother drop me off, need a phone to coordinate the ride.

[InTheWideLand I Walk]

hey in ontario is there an area where you can just throw all your stuff against the wall like there is in pasadena?

also, just in case it comes up on the essays- can anyone just name off a list of all the fundamental rights? thanks

[BrokenMouse]

I think ppl generally trust that they've come this far to be a lawyer, and since nobody can get inside even the lobby unless they have a ticket, they wouldn't risk stealing and getting banned from the CA Bar for life.

That's my rationale. Usually people just keep things in their bags and leave it outside against the wall. I doubt anybody is really thinking about stealing considering their minds are already preoccupied with whether double jeopardy attaches after the full jury is sworn in or after a full prosecution.

[BrokenMouse]

Alright lettuce beef cereal.

What subjects are you most weak in?

<--- Wills and Trust. (Never seen a will in my life and didn't grow up around the concept of property/trust so it's all so foreign to me)

[FinallyPassedTheBar]

Yea I saw a box full of iphones out in the secured area. Nobody is stealing them as far as I know.

Proctor even said no wallets inside the testing room. Not even a wallet in your pocket.

[BrokenMouse]

Alternatively, go buy a $5 tracfone and add the cheapest minutes you can find. Total = $20 or less. No care if stolen. Keep your Samsung phone (because a smart law student worth passing the CA Bar would never use iOS) in your room/with your ride.

Then after the exam just go to the ocean and throw it in the water as far as you can in celebration (Tracfone not Samsung phone). I am planning on throwing something related to the bar exam, but I dont know what yet. They're all books. My ear plugs will probably get picked up by the wind and come back to hit me in the face. Hmm... decision time. Or maybe I should go back to studying Wills.

[FinallyPassedTheBar]

Pasadena bathrooms are outside the testing room, in the hall way. So depending on where you sit inside the auditorium, it could be quite a long walk to the bathroom.

Ontario has bathrooms INSIDE the testing room.

And there's creepy proctors who like to hangout inside the bathrooms too.

[attjen]

For people asking talking about leaving stuff in the car. I'll be flying from another country to do the exam. Won't have a car and will need a phone to get uber in a strange city...also need to take my food. Wish I could throw even some nuts in that clear plastic bag. If I can't then fine but it would be great to be able to just take even a sandwich so that I won't have the added struggle of scrambling for food during the break...just saying.

Not being a whined but so much planing, logistics, time, money, effort and life in general invested in these 3 days. I wish us all the best of luck and pray that I'll get some work done on that long flight to CA...good luck guys!!!

[FinallyPassedTheBar]

For people asking talking about leaving stuff in the car. I'll be flying from another country to do the exam. Won't have a car and will need a phone to get uber in a strange city...also need to take my food. Wish I could throw even some nuts in that clear plastic bag. If I can't then fine but it would be great to be able to just take even a sandwich so that I won't have the added struggle of scrambling for food during the break...just saying.

Not being a whined but so much planing, logistics, time, money, effort and life in general invested in these 3 days. I wish us all the best of luck and pray that I'll get some work done on that long flight to CA...good luck guys!!!

You could stash a pre-made lunch in a bag and leave in the secure area.

Good luck!

[FinallyPassedTheBar]

Pasadena has a number of lunch places available across the street in an outdoor type shopping mall. The cheapest is a Baja Fresh on the 2nd floor.

But Ontario is more limited. The closest and cheapest I remember is a Yoshinoya Beef Bowl which is like an 8 minute walk away. There's also a Dennys and an Indian Food Buffet in the same area.

[rcharter1978]

hey in ontario is there an area where you can just throw all your stuff against the wall like there is in pasadena?

also, just in case it comes up on the essays- can anyone just name off a list of all the fundamental rights? thanks

Privacy
Marriage
Upbringing of Children
Procreation
Custody of Children
Abortion
Homosexual Activity
Keeping Family Together
Refusal of Medical Treatment

Right to Vote
Speech Rights
Right to bear arms (don't think this is a fundamental right per se)
Free Exercise of Religion
Due Process

I don't think this is at all an exhaustive list, maybe someone can correct and add

Anyways, at Ontario you put your stuff against the wall too

[rcharter1978]

My predictions:

Business Association may show up
Community Property may show up
Civil Procedure (federal or CA -- hot potato!) may show up
Constitutional Law may show up
Contracts may show up
Criminal Law may show up
Criminal Procedure may show up
Evidence (federal or CA) may show up
Professional Responsibility (ABA and/or CA) may show up
Real Property may show up
Remedies may show up
Torts may show up
Wills & Trusts may show up
Crossovers of any of the above may show up

If California evidence shows up, I'm going to fake a heart attack. Its going to be loud and ugly, so I apologize in advance to those of you in Ontario.

This might help if you're confused about how to approach Evidence, CA or otherwise:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oyn0tzn6vek1j ... e.pdf?dl=0

At least one of the Prop 8 exceptions (CRIM cases) usually applies, making evidence inadmissible

gl

oh wow, did you create those? they are awesome! Thank you. Wish I had known about these a few weeks ago, but thank you anyways.

[InTheWideLand I Walk]

thanks rcharter1978

[juniormint33]

Anyone else feel like their brain is just going to spill over? It's not even stress really. I'm afraid if I try to cram one more thing into my head I'm going to lose everything.

[InTheWideLand I Walk]

btw my predictions are:

evidence
con law- free speech
trusts

pr
remedies- (not contracts-remedies but one of the other crazy ones)
crim- mixed crimes or murder or both.

civ pro might also come up as it has come up on the only two exams since it first appeared on the mbe. I think the bar committee is trying to see how much better we are at civ pro now that we have to study it for the mbe. Itll probably be a crossover. torts could be a crossover to- negligence or misc intentional torts.

[Raiden]

Anyone else feel like their brain is just going to spill over? It's not even stress really. I'm afraid if I try to cram one more thing into my head I'm going to lose everything.

I totally feel you, but we really only have 2 days (well today is almost over) of solid studying. After that, just a few days taking the bar exam, and we won't have to think about the bar exam for a while. Just remain confident and remember by this time next week, you will never have to worry about the bar again.

[MrMustache]

btw my predictions are:

evidence
con law- free speech
trusts

pr
remedies- (not contracts-remedies but one of the other crazy ones)
crim- mixed crimes or murder or both.

civ pro might also come up as it has come up on the only two exams since it first appeared on the mbe. I think the bar committee is trying to see how much better we are at civ pro now that we have to study it for the mbe. Itll probably be a crossover. torts could be a crossover to- negligence or misc intentional torts.

Aaaaaaaaand I had to review free speech thanks to this post. Couldn't remember all those pesky little rules about less protected speech, public forum, designated public forum, non-public forum, limited public forum...symbolic speech, prior restraints, commercial speech, privacy, obscenity, profanity, freedom of association...

I'd feel comfortable with Property, Community Property, Contracts, Evidence (fed or CA), Torts, Civ Pro (fed only), Crim Law/Pro.

I need to re-learn Corporations, Agency, Partnership, Wills, Trusts, and Remedies because my brain is drawing a blank right now. And I need to learn CA civ pro because I had not touched it due to fears of getting confused with fed Civ Pro. My anxiety is starting to turn into rage. In the words Frank, from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, - SOMEBODY NEEDS GET STABBED.

I am so fucked

Edit: This mustache is itchy as fuck. I'm shaving it, from now on my username is a lie.