Barbri paced program question? Forum

[jd20132013]

I dont plan to. i wasnt doing the AMPs on schedule anyway, i do them while I'm eating, etc

[The Egyptian]

What is "good enough" for essays (approximately)? Is it the kind of thing where you can get a passing score even after making educated guesses about the BLL for half of the issues? Or am I just completely screwed?

For my second bar exam, I made up most of the BLL and just applied it correctly and I was fine.

So to what do you attribute your success primarily? Good orderly IRAC structure with clear headings and short sentences? Seems like I see this as a common corrective, but not sure.

If so, then I'm thinking I should be writing out essays a lot more than just outlining by issue spotting and writing rules. That seems like the hard part, because I have so few rules memorized, but I'm now wondering if I'm fooling myself that I would have put good headlines, subheadlines and written out short and concise sentences. And even if I did write the essay out fully, that's still a much harder thing to judge than whether I recited the rule correctly or not.

I relied heavily on underlined issue headings and discrete sections for each issue, like you said, since you get points for issue spotting and you don't usually need to have the BLL down to spot issues. I'm guessing my writing and analysis were relatively good, even when the rules were wrong. I also focused very heavily on MBE topics the first time around, so I was able to competently answer non-state questions. I'd focus on making issue outlines and drilling rules from model answers, but I've always thought writing entire essays out was a complete waste of time unless finishing on time is a concern.

What is BLL? You mean the distinctions to that state law from the MBE applies to the issues you spotted?

[LouEVille]

On a side note, where are people finding the most frequently tested subjects in their states? I've heard stuff by word of mouth, but I can't find any hard evidence anywhere online besides what the MEE has tested.

If you're signed up for barbri-->
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It'll have a frequency chart for each state (however, you can only see info for the state for which you're registered)

Nothing there for me, unfortunately.

[jd20132013]

i'm so so tired of doing the state law stuff. Virginia has 20 potential state law subjects

doesnt make any damn sense.

sorry just wanted to vent briefly

[bigstumpdriver]

Drunk again. This time on gin n tonics

Who's with me?

EDIT: And just got into music this weekend. Wrong weekend to get into music!

EDIT 2: I just wanted to say (I just wanted to say) that it is so awesome how the bar brings us all together. Today I was at an outdoor bar in my CITY reading the CMR when two complete strangers saw me and told me that they were taking the bar too!!!

EDIT 3: What good came from the bar? Let's focus on the positivies.

I'll go first:

1) I got to spend far too much time with my cat, but he is old so now I know I always have that time.

2) New friends. 2 guys I didn't know saw me reading my cmr and said they were taking the bar too. Like an hour later we were at a beer shop with our books open drilling each other for hours.

[jd20132013]

So the kids call them "beer shops" now?

[aquasalad]

Is anyone completing the Barbri Amp Refreshers? I can't help but to think this may not be the best use of time under the paced program.

nope not doing them.

I was starting to fell OK about where I'm at on the MBE and state essays... and then I cracked open the civ/crim procedure exam that's worth 10% in TX. please no.

No idea how I am going to memorize all of this...

[encore1101]

2) New friends. 2 guys I didn't know saw me reading my cmr and said they were taking the bar too. Like an hour later we were at a beer shop with our books open drilling each other for hours.

[jd20132013]

just me or are the Barbri MPQ Contracts explanations nearly incoherent?


well it was just that one question in retrospect.

[jaydizzle]

2) New friends. 2 guys I didn't know saw me reading my cmr and said they were taking the bar too. Like an hour later we were at a beer shop with our books open drilling each other for hours.

Haha. I caught that too.

[peanut123]

What are you all doing to review your MBE? It's ultra annoying to flip back and forth between the answers and the questions while the lecturer is jumping around. Is it worth the time to annotate the lecture handout with my answers and the correct answer?

[jd20132013]

What are you all doing to review your MBE? It's ultra annoying to flip back and forth between the answers and the questions while the lecturer is jumping around. Is it worth the time to annotate the lecture handout with my answers and the correct answer?

literally came here to ask this exact question.

[jaydizzle]

What are you all doing to review your MBE? It's ultra annoying to flip back and forth between the answers and the questions while the lecturer is jumping around. Is it worth the time to annotate the lecture handout with my answers and the correct answer?

literally came here to ask this exact question.

What I did was stay with the lectures the whole time. I treated the lectures as a final exam review, and I took notes by hand of all of the tips and even the law. Since I scored poorly I found it to be really helpful. I just did some MPQ sets, and I am already seeing a decent improvement.

I am now going to type up my notes and add it into my MBE Lean Sheet binder.

[jd20132013]

I'm currently thinking right now I'll just watch and follow along and take notes when he reviews ones I got wrong OR if he gives an important tip on one that I got right.

[prs362]

I would encourage all of you to skip the property MBE review. The only one that I found useless. Plus, that guy just really makes me angry. "Oh, you picked (b)?!?! (b) is a ridiculous answer, get that out of here, it's simply wrong!!!" Guzman isn't terrible if you put him on 2.0 speed.

[nygrrrl]

What are you all doing to review your MBE? It's ultra annoying to flip back and forth between the answers and the questions while the lecturer is jumping around. Is it worth the time to annotate the lecture handout with my answers and the correct answer?

In the very back of the MBE Sim book they have the questions broken out for each lecture, in the order in which they're discussed. (I think that's what you were asking. My brain is just like pudding, now.)

[jd20132013]

it's surprising how often they just say "X answer is nonsense" and keep it moving.

fortunately I haven't picked any of those but...Idk. I'm definitely watching on 1.75 speed so i can get some other stuff done today.

[peanut123]

What are you all doing to review your MBE? It's ultra annoying to flip back and forth between the answers and the questions while the lecturer is jumping around. Is it worth the time to annotate the lecture handout with my answers and the correct answer?

In the very back of the MBE Sim book they have the questions broken out for each lecture, in the order in which they're discussed. (I think that's what you were asking. My brain is just like pudding, now.)

Thanks - I saw those. I guess I'll just use those and go through them marking all of my answers and the correct one? Just seems time consuming. I'm not sure why they don't just give us a copy of our answers with the correct one marked. They obviously have the data since they post so many percentiles in the results area.

[LouEVille]

I would encourage all of you to skip the property MBE review. The only one that I found useless. Plus, that guy just really makes me angry. "Oh, you picked (b)?!?! (b) is a ridiculous answer, get that out of here, it's simply wrong!!!" Guzman isn't terrible if you put him on 2.0 speed.

I hate that too. Why ridicule someone for supposedly being an idiot if they happened to bite on the wrong answer choice? I haven't had that happen to me yet, but if it did it sure wouldn't be a confidence booster.

[jaydizzle]

I would encourage all of you to skip the property MBE review. The only one that I found useless. Plus, that guy just really makes me angry. "Oh, you picked (b)?!?! (b) is a ridiculous answer, get that out of here, it's simply wrong!!!" Guzman isn't terrible if you put him on 2.0 speed.

I hate that too. Why ridicule someone for supposedly being an idiot if they happened to bite on the wrong answer choice? I haven't had that happen to me yet, but if it did it sure wouldn't be a confidence booster.

I had it happen once or twice, and I was like well thank you. That one guy what's his name sucks (the property guy who is loud and obnoxious), but the other people are fine.

[beachbum]

Man, I feel the exact opposite about that guy. I much prefer the yelling and exaggeration and insults (which, if nothing else, make the lecture a little more entertaining) to the droning of some other lecturers. And if you pick a bad answer and he calls you an idiot for picking it, you won't pick it again. Problem solved.

[jaydizzle]

Man, I feel the exact opposite about that guy. I much prefer the yelling and exaggeration and insults (which, if nothing else, make the lecture a little more entertaining) to the droning of some other lecturers. And if you pick a bad answer and he calls you an idiot for picking it, you won't pick it again. Problem solved.

I guess so. I have to say I have found the review helpful. It might be because I had no idea what I was really doing before. I maybe needed to see some more application and hints. Typing up my notes now is proving to sink things into my head for future questions to at least score average.

[nygrrrl]

What are you all doing to review your MBE? It's ultra annoying to flip back and forth between the answers and the questions while the lecturer is jumping around. Is it worth the time to annotate the lecture handout with my answers and the correct answer?

In the very back of the MBE Sim book they have the questions broken out for each lecture, in the order in which they're discussed. (I think that's what you were asking. My brain is just like pudding, now.)

Thanks - I saw those. I guess I'll just use those and go through them marking all of my answers and the correct one? Just seems time consuming. I'm not sure why they don't just give us a copy of our answers with the correct one marked. They obviously have the data since they post so many percentiles in the results area.

Sheesh. Duh - now I see what you mean. Yes, I transferred my answers to the answer sheets then referenced those as it went along. Maddening.

[Stringer6]

Does anyone feel like they could take the NY essay portion tomorrow and pass? I don't.

[prs362]

Does anyone feel like they could take the NY essay portion tomorrow and pass? I don't.

lolno. I spent all day today working on New York Practice. So boring. In other news, why has Barbri not uploaded the Domestic Relations lecture yet? So frustrating.