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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:23 pm

Three years ago a landowner conveyed Blackacre to his niece for $50,000 by a deed that provided: "By accepting this deed, [the niece] covenants for herself, her heirs and assigns, that the premises herein conveyed shall be used solely for residential purposes and, if the premises are used for nonresidential purposes, the landowner, his heirs and assigns, shall have the right to repurchase the premises for the sum of one thousand dollars ($1,000)." In order to pay the $50,000 purchase price for Blackacre, the niece obtained a $35,000 mortgage loan from the bank. The landowner had full knowledge of the mortgage transaction. The deed and mortgage were promptly and properly recorded in proper sequence. The mortgage, however, made no reference to the quoted language in the deed.

Two years ago the niece converted her use of Blackacre from residential to commercial without the knowledge or consent of the landowner or of the bank. The niece's commercial venture failed, and the niece defaulted on her mortgage payments to the bank. Blackacre now has a fair market value of $25,000.

The bank began appropriate foreclosure proceedings against the niece. The landowner properly intervened, tendered $1,000, and sought judgment that the niece and the bank be ordered to convey Blackacre to the landowner, free and clear of the mortgage.

The common law Rule Against Perpetuities is unmodified by statute.

If the court rules against the landowner, it will be because

A. the provision quoted from the deed violates the Rule Against Perpetuities.
B. the bank had no actual knowledge of, and did not consent to, the violation of the covenant.
C. the rights reserved by the landowner were subordinated, by necessary implication, to the rights of the bank as the lender of the purchase money.
D. the consideration of $1,000 was inadequate.

A is correct. The quoted provision violates the Rule Against Perpetuities (RAP). The RAP applies to three types of interests: 1) vested remainders subject to open, 2) contingent remainders, and 3) executory interests. The Rule dictates that where any of these interests would vest outside of a life in being plus 21 years, it is void. Answering RAP questions is best accomplished in two parts: 1) identify the type of interests created by the language of the deed, and 2) if the interest is one of the three that the RAP applies to, determine whether it would be possible for that interest to vest any later than twenty-one years after everyone alive at the time of the conveyance has died. If it could, the interest is void.

In this case, the facts indicate that if the property ever ceases to be used from nonresidential purposes, the landowner and/or his heirs have a right to repurchase, thus a contingent remainder. However, it could be decades before the land is used for nonresidential purposes, meaning it could be decades before the landowner and his heirs' interests can become possessory. Because it may be longer than a life in being plus 21 years before that occurs, the language of the grant violates the RAP, and answer A is correct. Answer B, C and D are all incorrect as the RAP provides a sounder basis to rule against the landowner than any of the concepts or doctrines these answers reference.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:46 pm

I think the "right to repurchase" option clause gives the grantor a contingent remainder...and thus subject to RAP. If the clause was not there, the grantor would have either a reversion, or right of re-entry, and thus not subject to RAP That's how I read it anyhow.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:48 pm

So I'm really just reading way too much into the problem?

On another note, just did 82% on OPE 4. Not sure how to feel honestly. I did see repeats and am really scared of getting a false sense of security. I guess I'll do a Barbri set of 100 next time and see.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:43 pm

THE_U wrote:So I'm really just reading way too much into the problem?

On another note, just did 82% on OPE 4. Not sure how to feel honestly. I did see repeats and am really scared of getting a false sense of security. I guess I'll do a Barbri set of 100 next time and see.

I remember answering the question correctly...but the distinction that a purchase option interest is a "contingent remainder" (RAP applicable) versus "reverter in the grantor" (RAP not applicable) never occurred to me because the answer choices didn't really focus on that distinction.

I think if the answer choice did focus on that distinction, it would be a very hard question with less than 20% success rate

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:47 pm

THE_U wrote: On another note, just did 82% on OPE 4. Not sure how to feel honestly. I did see repeats and am really scared of getting a false sense of security. I guess I'll do a Barbri set of 100 next time and see.
I remember someone telling me 70% is good and right on track. But I am not sure if that also includes doing repeat questions that one remembers.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:38 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:
THE_U wrote: On another note, just did 82% on OPE 4. Not sure how to feel honestly. I did see repeats and am really scared of getting a false sense of security. I guess I'll do a Barbri set of 100 next time and see.
I remember someone telling me 70% is good and right on track. But I am not sure if that also includes doing repeat questions that one remembers.
I'm gonna do the Barbri MBE Refresher next Friday just in case. It's supposed to be pretty difficult so it should be good practice.
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THE_U wrote:So I'm really just reading way too much into the problem?

On another note, just did 82% on OPE 4. Not sure how to feel honestly. I did see repeats and am really scared of getting a false sense of security. I guess I'll do a Barbri set of 100 next time and see.

I remember answering the question correctly...but the distinction that a purchase option interest is a "contingent remainder" (RAP applicable) versus "reverter in the grantor" (RAP not applicable) never occurred to me because the answer choices didn't really focus on that distinction.

I think if the answer choice did focus on that distinction, it would be a very hard question with less than 20% success rate
Yeah, that's pretty much how I arrived at the correct answer, too. It was only after I was reviewing when I started thinking about all of this nonsense. Not even gonna worry at this point, because like you said, doubtful that a question focusing on that distinction would be on the exam or that many people would even get it right.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by myrtlewinston » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:04 pm

Hi,
Has anyone watched an Adaptibar lecture?

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:39 pm

Yeah, I've watched the K and Property lectures. Started Civ Pro yesterday.

Grossman is awesome. The lectures are really good for the big picture.

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Post by myrtlewinston » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:25 pm

THE_U wrote:Yeah, I've watched the K and Property lectures. Started Civ Pro yesterday.

Grossman is awesome. The lectures are really good for the big picture.
Does he cover the essential rules?
Btw, the Barbri MBE review, while entertaining, is not worth it.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:40 pm

myrtlewinston wrote:
THE_U wrote:Yeah, I've watched the K and Property lectures. Started Civ Pro yesterday.

Grossman is awesome. The lectures are really good for the big picture.
Does he cover the essential rules?
Btw, the Barbri MBE review, while entertaining, is not worth it.
Yeah, he hits all of the main rules and conveys them in plain, basic language.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by MTBike » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:33 pm

Yesterday, I did 77 questions, got 64.5% correct. Today, I did 84 questions, got 56% correct.

What gives? Did i just get harder questions today? Or am I getting dumber

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Sue » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:52 pm

MTBike wrote:Yesterday, I did 77 questions, got 64.5% correct. Today, I did 84 questions, got 56% correct.

What gives? Did i just get harder questions today? Or am I getting dumber
Happens to me too. One day I get more than 70%, the next day less than 60%. I started not to include Civpro in my sets, it is kind of better now. Not that I am bad at or I don't like it, it's just Adaptibar Civpro questions suck. Did the ones from NCBE website, got 9/10 though.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:21 pm

MTBike wrote:Yesterday, I did 77 questions, got 64.5% correct. Today, I did 84 questions, got 56% correct.

What gives? Did i just get harder questions today? Or am I getting dumber
How many questions have you done total?

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by MTBike » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:57 pm

THE_U wrote:
MTBike wrote:Yesterday, I did 77 questions, got 64.5% correct. Today, I did 84 questions, got 56% correct.

What gives? Did i just get harder questions today? Or am I getting dumber
How many questions have you done total?
981 total. I blame today on burnout honestly, I was pushing 70% for the first 40 questions or so of reviewing answer explanations then just dropped off a ledge

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by iwantmybar » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:51 am

Someone on reddit posted this : barprephero.com

There are some free 50 sets of questions (no civ pro). Questions are uniques et different from adaptibar.

I don't know how good they are but I guess as long as the explanation is not wrong, it can't hurt.

I tried and completed the set #5. I scored 62% (19 answers wrong out of 50). It is harder than adaptibar and test some very obscures exceptions. What do you guys think?

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:22 pm

iwantmybar wrote:Someone on reddit posted this : barprephero.com

There are some free 50 sets of questions (no civ pro). Questions are uniques et different from adaptibar.

I don't know how good they are but I guess as long as the explanation is not wrong, it can't hurt.

I tried and completed the set #5. I scored 62% (19 answers wrong out of 50). It is harder than adaptibar and test some very obscures exceptions. What do you guys think?

I think its an "ok" resource. It doesn't explain wrong answer choices though. And there aren't many questions with a one sentence fact pattern coupled with very lengthy answer choices (I HATE THOSE). Try Test #6. Most of the questions ask "what is the wrong answer", which I think is helpful to practice for.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:25 pm

MTBike wrote:
THE_U wrote:
MTBike wrote:Yesterday, I did 77 questions, got 64.5% correct. Today, I did 84 questions, got 56% correct.

What gives? Did i just get harder questions today? Or am I getting dumber
How many questions have you done total?
981 total. I blame today on burnout honestly, I was pushing 70% for the first 40 questions or so of reviewing answer explanations then just dropped off a ledge
Have you taken any practice exams (like any of the OPEs, for example)?

Maybe Adaptibar was just feeding you questions that you are really weak at. When I was doing the majority of my questions in "practice question" mode, it would happen to me sometimes. Felt like I would get hammered by a bunch of questions in my weak areas before the program would throw me a few bones and give me some questions I was good at. The real test isn't going to be like Adaptibar's algorithm and will have a much more equal representation of the sub-topics in each area of law.

If you are usually pretty consistent, I really wouldn't worry about a bad day.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by iwantmybar » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:31 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:
iwantmybar wrote:Someone on reddit posted this : barprephero.com

There are some free 50 sets of questions (no civ pro). Questions are uniques et different from adaptibar.

I don't know how good they are but I guess as long as the explanation is not wrong, it can't hurt.

I tried and completed the set #5. I scored 62% (19 answers wrong out of 50). It is harder than adaptibar and test some very obscures exceptions. What do you guys think?

I think its an "ok" resource. It doesn't explain wrong answer choices though. And there aren't many questions with a one sentence fact pattern coupled with very lengthy answer choices (I HATE THOSE). Try Test #6. Most of the questions ask "what is the wrong answer", which I think is helpful to practice for.

Yep I just took test #6, it was easier, I scored 39/50. This website is ok'ish. It is very unpleasant not to have the explanations of the wrong answers.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Raiden » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:02 pm

I am averaging about 64 - 68%, doing 50 questions each day. I hope I can break pass the 75% range the week before the exam

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Post by kraeton » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:41 pm

MTBike wrote:Yesterday, I did 77 questions, got 64.5% correct. Today, I did 84 questions, got 56% correct.

What gives? Did i just get harder questions today? Or am I getting dumber

It happens. I dunno what algorithm they use if at all, but I've had 5 questions in a row with a national avg. of less than 30% before. Suffice it to say, super demotivating.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Nevergiveup15 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:52 am

Just a short note to say how much I HATE civil pro. The Adaptibar questions are killing me... :x :shock:

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Sue » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:12 pm

Nevergiveup15 wrote:Just a short note to say how much I HATE civil pro. The Adaptibar questions are killing me... :x :shock:
What is your score?
Have you done 10 questions on the NCBE website?

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Post by Nevergiveup15 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:56 pm

Sue wrote:
Nevergiveup15 wrote:Just a short note to say how much I HATE civil pro. The Adaptibar questions are killing me... :x :shock:
What is your score?
Have you done 10 questions on the NCBE website?
Yep the questions on the NCBE website are pretty straightforward. I'm averaging 47% on the civil pro questions on Adapitbar ;-(

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Sue » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:15 pm

Nevergiveup15 wrote:
Sue wrote:
Nevergiveup15 wrote:Just a short note to say how much I HATE civil pro. The Adaptibar questions are killing me... :x :shock:
What is your score?
Have you done 10 questions on the NCBE website?
Yep the questions on the NCBE website are pretty straightforward. I'm averaging 47% on the civil pro questions on Adapitbar ;-(
I wouldn't worry about Adaptibar CivPro scores much as long as I feel like I know BLL. I am at average % on Civpro (50%), which is pretty bad and dragging my overall down, but I'd rather work on my other subjects like RP or Contracts because I don't find these CP questions very reliable.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Raiden » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:09 pm

My scores have been decreasing the past few days, ugh, not good, just a week and half left too :(

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