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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by jj252525 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:23 pm

learntolift wrote:how was everyone's timing?
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learntolift wrote:how was everyone's timing?

I was fucking around and still finished way early. Really, I need to slow down.
Yeah I finished with 45 minutes left on each section. Really a sign that I should take it easy. Nothing good comes from rushing.

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Post by mvp99 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:34 pm

I found this NCBE outline and I think I'll use it as a check list. http://www.ncbex.org/exams/mee/preparing/

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Post by mvp99 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:07 am

yall probably know this but percentiles are out

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Post by fauxpsych » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:22 pm

121/200. 62/100 in the am and 59/100 in the pm. I felt slower in the pm, but i guess it its effects were negligible.

Had about an hour left after each session, so I clearly need to slow down. Worst subject was property (54%), but a crushed evidence, relatively speaking, at 79%.

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Post by hellojd » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:31 pm

I'm playing catch-up here, and since property is likely my weakest subject have been trying to shore up my understanding.

Did anyone else find the property problem sets (particularly 2 and 3) ridiculously hard? The average Barbri scores listed are 50% for each, which I barely did better than. I'm really hoping the real MBE can't have property questions so difficult...

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by jj252525 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:39 pm

So today's Tort set was kind of bullshit.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by sublime » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:47 pm

jj252525 wrote:So today's Tort set was kind of bullshit.
I haven't done it but ppl say sets 5 and 6 in general are fucked up

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by LionelHutzJD » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:51 pm

I think i'm gonna do the test review videos today and tomorrow and save all this Torts shit for this weekend. I'd rather review the test when it's still fresh.

First I have to catch up on this Corps lecture though, ugh.

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Post by sublime » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:53 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:I think i'm gonna do the test review videos today and tomorrow and save all this Torts shit for this weekend. I'd rather review the test when it's still fresh.

First I have to catch up on this Corps lecture though, ugh.

Yea, I'm kind of considering the same thing.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by jj252525 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:54 pm

sublime wrote:
jj252525 wrote:So today's Tort set was kind of bullshit.
I haven't done it but ppl say sets 5 and 6 in general are fucked up
i'm infuriated.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by SLS_AMG » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:56 pm

Have you guys looked ahead at the amount of material Barbri is programming per day starting like next Monday? It's NUTS.

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Post by WahooLaw24 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:08 pm

sublime wrote:
jj252525 wrote:So today's Tort set was kind of bullshit.
I haven't done it but ppl say sets 5 and 6 in general are fucked up
I noticed a huge jump in difficulty in set 5 (I'm a few days ahead obviously). Lots of "this will likely be the outcome" and even "the Supreme Court never decided this case but would probably come out this way," which was frustrating. More super obscure topics too, which is frustrating, but just gotta treat it as a learning experience.

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Post by Br3v » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:03 pm

jj252525 wrote:
sublime wrote:
jj252525 wrote:So today's Tort set was kind of bullshit.
I haven't done it but ppl say sets 5 and 6 in general are fucked up
i'm infuriated.
Yeah like even the torts questions I knew the answer to, I remember asking "why did they word the answer like that though?"

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Post by ArtistOfManliness » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:04 pm

WahooLaw24 wrote:
sublime wrote:
jj252525 wrote:So today's Tort set was kind of bullshit.
I haven't done it but ppl say sets 5 and 6 in general are fucked up
I noticed a huge jump in difficulty in set 5 (I'm a few days ahead obviously). Lots of "this will likely be the outcome" and even "the Supreme Court never decided this case but would probably come out this way," which was frustrating. More super obscure topics too, which is frustrating, but just gotta treat it as a learning experience.
I fucking hate those.

I thought that if the Supreme Court has never decided the case, and it's only "likely" to come out a certain way, then it won't be on the bar exam. That's what you fucking told me at the beginning of this shitshow.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by yodamiked » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:00 pm

Checking in. 152/200. All the subjects I did well on were the ones I've traditionally been bombing on, so not sure what that's about.

Anyone else see the NY Bar Examination Security Policy Email from Barbri today? Please tell me I'm misreading it and that you can leave to go the bathroom and still re-enter the exam room. The "After you leave the exam room, you may not re-enter until the next testing session" line is worrying me, though I can't imagine that's applicable to using the bathroom. If there's one thing I learned from the Simulated MBE, it's that I both have time, and need to, take lots of breaks just to clear my head if I'm to survive 200 questions.

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Post by KRose04 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:02 pm

yodamiked wrote:Checking in. 152/200. All the subjects I did well on were the ones I've traditionally been bombing on, so not sure what that's about.

Anyone else see the NY Bar Examination Security Policy Email from Barbri today? Please tell me I'm misreading it and that you can leave to go the bathroom and still re-enter the exam room. The "After you leave the exam room, you may not re-enter until the next testing session" line is worrying me, though I can't imagine that's applicable to using the bathroom. If there's one thing I learned from the Simulated MBE, it's that I both have time, and need to, take lots of breaks just to clear my head if I'm to survive 200 questions.
They mean once you're done. To go to the bathroom you just have to ask the proctor

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by sublime » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:09 pm

I also did shitty on subjects I was okay on and well on shit I didn't.

Like two subjects with at least 90% percentile, and two with sub 40.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by mvp99 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:11 pm

on today's torts set, I think some of the explanations are wrong at least in one aspect.
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construction/powder question, the explanation is using a subjective standard for foreseeable plaintiffs when it should be objective. Why does it matter in a negligence case whether the contractor knew if someone was a foreseeable plaintiff? Knowing of a foreseeable plaintiff is sufficient but the duty also extends to plaintiffs he should've guarded against, and simply concluding "no one will be in the house because the owner is out of town" is seems unreasonable. I think maybe the case really turns on causation (the type of harm the contractor should have guarded against was the type of harm that occurred). Anyway, I'm not satisfied with the explanation so if anyone could explain it better that would be great.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by KRose04 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:12 pm

before crim was my worst and torts was best. on the exam, they switched places -___-

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by mvp99 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:13 pm

yodamiked wrote:Checking in. 152/200. All the subjects I did well on were the ones I've traditionally been bombing on, so not sure what that's about.

Anyone else see the NY Bar Examination Security Policy Email from Barbri today? Please tell me I'm misreading it and that you can leave to go the bathroom and still re-enter the exam room. The "After you leave the exam room, you may not re-enter until the next testing session" line is worrying me, though I can't imagine that's applicable to using the bathroom. If there's one thing I learned from the Simulated MBE, it's that I both have time, and need to, take lots of breaks just to clear my head if I'm to survive 200 questions.
dang your percentile must be like 98

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by yodamiked » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:17 pm

mvp99 wrote:
yodamiked wrote:Checking in. 152/200. All the subjects I did well on were the ones I've traditionally been bombing on, so not sure what that's about.

Anyone else see the NY Bar Examination Security Policy Email from Barbri today? Please tell me I'm misreading it and that you can leave to go the bathroom and still re-enter the exam room. The "After you leave the exam room, you may not re-enter until the next testing session" line is worrying me, though I can't imagine that's applicable to using the bathroom. If there's one thing I learned from the Simulated MBE, it's that I both have time, and need to, take lots of breaks just to clear my head if I'm to survive 200 questions.
dang your percentile must be like 98
Yeah, like 95...I'd feel better if I didn't think I might have fluked out with Evidence and Property.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by Br3v » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:18 pm

mvp99 wrote:on today's torts set, I think some of the explanations are wrong at least in one aspect.
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construction/powder question, the explanation is using a subjective standard for foreseeable plaintiffs when it should be objective. Why does it matter in a negligence case whether the contractor knew if someone was a foreseeable plaintiff? Knowing of a foreseeable plaintiff is sufficient but the duty also extends to plaintiffs he should've guarded against, and simply concluding "no one will be in the house because the owner is out of town" is seems unreasonable. I think maybe the case really turns on causation (the type of harm the contractor should have guarded against was the type of harm that occurred). Anyway, I'm not satisfied with the explanation so if anyone could explain it better that would be great.
I similarly thought that question was weak
[+] Spoiler
guy leaves highly dangerous powder on ground because he doesn't think anyone will come over until tomorrow? Seems pretty negligent.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by yodamiked » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:18 pm

KRose04 wrote:
yodamiked wrote:Checking in. 152/200. All the subjects I did well on were the ones I've traditionally been bombing on, so not sure what that's about.

Anyone else see the NY Bar Examination Security Policy Email from Barbri today? Please tell me I'm misreading it and that you can leave to go the bathroom and still re-enter the exam room. The "After you leave the exam room, you may not re-enter until the next testing session" line is worrying me, though I can't imagine that's applicable to using the bathroom. If there's one thing I learned from the Simulated MBE, it's that I both have time, and need to, take lots of breaks just to clear my head if I'm to survive 200 questions.
They mean once you're done. To go to the bathroom you just have to ask the proctor
Ok cool, that's what I thought, but it just seemed poorly written and unclear.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by sublime » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:19 pm

yodamiked wrote:
mvp99 wrote:
yodamiked wrote:Checking in. 152/200. All the subjects I did well on were the ones I've traditionally been bombing on, so not sure what that's about.

Anyone else see the NY Bar Examination Security Policy Email from Barbri today? Please tell me I'm misreading it and that you can leave to go the bathroom and still re-enter the exam room. The "After you leave the exam room, you may not re-enter until the next testing session" line is worrying me, though I can't imagine that's applicable to using the bathroom. If there's one thing I learned from the Simulated MBE, it's that I both have time, and need to, take lots of breaks just to clear my head if I'm to survive 200 questions.
dang your percentile must be like 98
Yeah, like 95...I'd feel better if I didn't think I might have fluked out with Evidence and Property.
I did really shitty on evid but feel like prop was a fluke for me too.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY)

Post by WahooLaw24 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:24 pm

Br3v wrote:
mvp99 wrote:on today's torts set, I think some of the explanations are wrong at least in one aspect.
[+] Spoiler
construction/powder question, the explanation is using a subjective standard for foreseeable plaintiffs when it should be objective. Why does it matter in a negligence case whether the contractor knew if someone was a foreseeable plaintiff? Knowing of a foreseeable plaintiff is sufficient but the duty also extends to plaintiffs he should've guarded against, and simply concluding "no one will be in the house because the owner is out of town" is seems unreasonable. I think maybe the case really turns on causation (the type of harm the contractor should have guarded against was the type of harm that occurred). Anyway, I'm not satisfied with the explanation so if anyone could explain it better that would be great.
I similarly thought that question was weak
[+] Spoiler
guy leaves highly dangerous powder on ground because he doesn't think anyone will come over until tomorrow? Seems pretty negligent.
Was very confused by that one as well.

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