Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 Forum

[AlanShore]

Has anyone figured out how to make lectures faster than 2x?

Try video speed controller chrome extension

this!

[Nebby]

Damn bruh. I feel like anything over 2x would be a tad much

[Fivedham]

Finally started doing reasonably well in the Torts MBE PQs in their fifth one. Hopefully it wasn't just one easy set.

[PotLuck]

Do you guys use your notes at all when doing the PQs or practice essays?

I'm having a hard time getting at least through the essays without them.

[bsktbll28082]

Do you guys use your notes at all when doing the PQs or practice essays?

I'm having a hard time getting at least through the essays without them.

I try not too. Though on some of the essays I blank on the issues.

[ndp1234]

Do you guys use your notes at all when doing the PQs or practice essays?

I'm having a hard time getting at least through the essays without them.

Before I do a set of PQs or practice essays (especially for topics a couple of subjects removed from my most recent one) I go through my outline and Critical Pass flashcards and then try to do the sets and essays without looking. I feel that with this method I am slowly but surely memorizing the information, and at the same time learning how to apply the information instead of just rote memorization.

Hope this helps!

[ultimolugar]

Do you guys use your notes at all when doing the PQs or practice essays?

I'm having a hard time getting at least through the essays without them.

I read the rule of law for all missed questions before attempting an essay.

[KD35]

Do you guys use your notes at all when doing the PQs or practice essays?

I'm having a hard time getting at least through the essays without them.

I always use notes the first essay for every topic so I get used to the topic and format of the subject. Then after that do them blind. I think it helps a lot.

[Vantwins]

Well I see the issue with trying to refer to notes to complete a graded essay - I ran out of time and still had a couple more issue to address!

[Vantwins]

Is anyone else viewing the MPT workshop this weekend? I watched chapters 1-3. Did you actually complete the sample MPT before watching the rest of the chapters or just read through the documents? I'm a little confused which they expect.
Thanks!

[Fivedham]

Is anyone else viewing the MPT workshop this weekend? I watched chapters 1-3. Did you actually complete the sample MPT before watching the rest of the chapters or just read through the documents? I'm a little confused which they expect.
Thanks!

I have a state-specific Performance Test, but the way it worked was that Ch. 1-2 were substantive videos about the performance test, with directions to complete the sample test as directed before going on to Ch. 3, which was just a review of the sample.

[Vantwins]

Is anyone else viewing the MPT workshop this weekend? I watched chapters 1-3. Did you actually complete the sample MPT before watching the rest of the chapters or just read through the documents? I'm a little confused which they expect.
Thanks!

I have a state-specific Performance Test, but the way it worked was that Ch. 1-2 were substantive videos about the performance test, with directions to complete the sample test as directed before going on to Ch. 3, which was just a review of the sample.

Thanks, I'm in MD. Chapters 1-3 were tips on taking the MPT. Chapter 4+5 are about a sample MPT, chapter 6 is about another MPT, and then my course schedule also separately says I should do an practice MPT today. But at 90 minutes each, I'm hoping they don't really think I'll do 3 in one day?? I guess I'll just read through the samples for the lectures. I'll just check first that I'll still have plenty to practice on.

edited to add that there are 18 practice MPTs, so no danger of running out.

[bsktbll28082]

Does anybody else have trouble with understanding the difference between levels of negligence (gross, ordinary, slight) or standards of proof (preponderance, beyond a reasonable doubt, etc.)? Themis uses the words, but does not define them.

I do not remember any law professors actually spelling out the differences. One drew a pie chart once to try and explain the proofs.

[just_me]

Does anybody else have trouble with understanding the difference between levels of negligence (gross, ordinary, slight) or standards of proof (preponderance, beyond a reasonable doubt, etc.)? Themis uses the words, but does not define them.

I do not remember any law professors actually spelling out the differences. One drew a pie chart once to try and explain the proofs.

I think all the terms you mention just have their intuitive meanings:
slight negligence = event a minor breach of duty will be sufficient
ordinary negligence = textbook definition
gross negligence = willful, wanton conduct, reckless disregard for the consequences of one's actions etc

preponderance of the evidence = more likely than not (i.e. 51% likely is proof enough)
beyond a reasonable doubt = not enough for it to be possible, or probable, you need to prove beyond any reasonable doubt (hard to put a percentage, but it would be a high one!)

Not sure if that's helpful at all - or maybe we need to have a more formal/ comprehensive knowledge for the exam (in which case, as you can see, i don't!)

[FSK]

Themis has me scheduled for 3 subject reviews today. I'm glad I finally have a serious block of time to dig into subjects. Also an easy day, I was studying for 8 hours saturday and sunday and my brain was starting to melt.

[Nebby]

Themis has me scheduled for 3 subject reviews today. I'm glad I finally have a serious block of time to dig into subjects. Also an easy day, I was studying for 8 hours saturday and sunday and my brain was starting to melt.

Today is Milestone Exam #1 for me (plus some PQ and lectures before). Looking forward to seeing how I compare to the other people who have taken the Milestone so I can judge progress

[bsktbll28082]

I also have the Milestone exam. Then I start Con law.

[FSK]

YEah, today include milestone exam, but its only like 50Q's, which doesn't take very long.

[Chardee_MacDennis]

Taking the Milestone exam this afternoon. Still waiting on my prop graded essay response.

[BarPreppin'12]

Hey everyone! I just found this and wanted to introduce myself. I am taking the bar in Florida, and just finished the Milestone 1. For those who have not taken it yet, good luck.

[Nebby]

Common law criminal law questions are kind of infuriating, because it is an acknowledge fact that they are inapplicable and many are unintuitive. I keep missing questions because I forget that the common law rule for some of these crimes or defenses are so contrary to present criminal law, which is my fault but still annoying

[just_me]

Did the milestone multiple choice earlier - didn't put much stock by what the guy said in the pre-video about people getting bunches of questions wrong consecutively etc but actually, that does seem to have been what happened me! I'd get loads right, then five wrong in a row, and this repeated a few times throughout the test. Going to do the essays this evening - joy!

[luxxe]

Did the milestone multiple choice earlier - didn't put much stock by what the guy said in the pre-video about people getting bunches of questions wrong consecutively etc but actually, that does seem to have been what happened me! I'd get loads right, then five wrong in a row, and this repeated a few times throughout the test. Going to do the essays this evening - joy!

Same - basically all of my missed questions were in the last third of the test when I was saying out loud how horribly bored I was.

Learned a hard lesson today about ignoring property....

[ndp1234]

Same - basically all of my missed questions were in the last third of the test when I was saying out loud how horribly bored I was.

Learned a hard lesson today about ignoring property....

Property was surprisingly my best subject and the subject I had been consistently getting 70s on (Torts) was my worst for this Milestone.

Is it even possible to work too much on the subjects I know I'm bad at to the good subject's detriment?

[Fivedham]

Did the milestone multiple choice earlier - didn't put much stock by what the guy said in the pre-video about people getting bunches of questions wrong consecutively etc but actually, that does seem to have been what happened me! I'd get loads right, then five wrong in a row, and this repeated a few times throughout the test. Going to do the essays this evening - joy!

Same - basically all of my missed questions were in the last third of the test when I was saying out loud how horribly bored I was.

Learned a hard lesson today about ignoring property....

Just finished mine as well. Only got about half of the Property questions. Apparently I STILL don't understand mortgages. I still exceeded the average, but damn, if I can start getting better than 50% in Property, I'll be flying.