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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by rcharter1978 » Tue May 17, 2016 6:05 am

6TimeFailure wrote:These are my scores. I really suck at essay writing. I had 2 hours of sleep the first night...but my scores of the 1st day are even slightly higher versus the 3rd day. Doesn't make sense. I was in a mental fog the entire 1st day.

Though I think my MBE score (1535) is good right? Does my MBE score roughly translate to 153 raw?

essay 1: 55
essay 2: 55
essay 3: 50

essay 4: 55
essay 5: 50
essay 6: 50

PT A: 60
PT B: 55

Raw written: 545.0
Scaled Written: 1188.8768
Scaled MBE: 1535

Total scaled: 1310.0199
I remember you once outlined how you prepped for previous administrations, but I can't remember...have you ever used a tutor? Just seems to me like you know the law as evidenced by a great MBE score -- but you have trouble with the writing.

I had the same trouble, and I got a tutor. I talked mad shit about my tutor, but he gave me some really solid advice even though he could be harsh and sometimes I didn't understand what he was talking about and I questioned some of his advice. But that guy was onto something. I think if you got a writing tutor that you really believed in and one that worked well with you, it could probably help you turn all that knowledge into passing essays and PT's. The tutor I used was a former bar grader, and there are at least two other tutors out here in California that are former bar graders. Two of them are up north (where you are, IIRC). And Kaplan has one on one tutoring as well....at a far more reasonable price (but not particularly former bar graders).

I have complete faith that you can do this.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by rcharter1978 » Tue May 17, 2016 6:19 am

2TimesTheCharm wrote:I'm looking at my grade sheet and it makes me sad. My essay scores alternate between 60 and 65 all the way down, including the PT's. My MBE score is in the 1200's. :(

Any suggestions on how to bring up my MBE score? I plan to practice essays a little more to get all 65's next time.
I think thats a great idea. I tried to hone in on the PT's too.....someone sagely pointed out....an PT is worth like 2 essays or something like that, so if you can really kill it in a PT, thats pretty cool.

As for the MBE's -- I think there are a million ways to improve those-- AdaptiBar, Kaplan QBank, Barbri Books. People also love Strategies and Tactics. And luckily there are fewer topics to cover for the MBE's than for the essays.

They say that the essays test the big concepts and the MBE's test the more minute details. Or at least I heard that somewhere. So, if your issue is in understanding those minute details than maybe try critical pass flashcards, or writing down the rule when you miss an MBE question on AdaptiBar or Barbri or QBank so you can remember the rule.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by achewood » Tue May 17, 2016 12:17 pm

MarcZero wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
Californialaw1464 wrote:I got a 1464 Scaled MBE but did not pass the exam :-( What are my options for waiving into any other jurisdiction. For what it matters, I am licensed in a Tribal Court recognized by the State of California. I would prefer to DC. Can this be done?

I believe that MBE scores can only be transferred to other jurisdictions if you pass the whole exam.. So if you failed, you can't transfer your MBE score, even if your MBE score is high enough to waive into a different jrx.

If i am wrong about this, someone please let me know, I have a 1535 scaled MBE
Unfortunately, you are correct. You need to pass to transfer your MBE score. :-(
...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by gaddockteeg » Tue May 17, 2016 12:57 pm

MarcZero wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
Californialaw1464 wrote:I got a 1464 Scaled MBE but did not pass the exam :-( What are my options for waiving into any other jurisdiction. For what it matters, I am licensed in a Tribal Court recognized by the State of California. I would prefer to DC. Can this be done?

I believe that MBE scores can only be transferred to other jurisdictions if you pass the whole exam.. So if you failed, you can't transfer your MBE score, even if your MBE score is high enough to waive into a different jrx.

If i am wrong about this, someone please let me know, I have a 1535 scaled MBE
Unfortunately, you are correct. You need to pass to transfer your MBE score. :-(
DELETE. Someone already posted what I posted.
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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by gaddockteeg » Tue May 17, 2016 12:58 pm

achewood wrote:
MarcZero wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
Californialaw1464 wrote:I got a 1464 Scaled MBE but did not pass the exam :-( What are my options for waiving into any other jurisdiction. For what it matters, I am licensed in a Tribal Court recognized by the State of California. I would prefer to DC. Can this be done?

I believe that MBE scores can only be transferred to other jurisdictions if you pass the whole exam.. So if you failed, you can't transfer your MBE score, even if your MBE score is high enough to waive into a different jrx.

If i am wrong about this, someone please let me know, I have a 1535 scaled MBE
Unfortunately, you are correct. You need to pass to transfer your MBE score. :-(
...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.
Oops, beat me to it.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by Justpassed2016 » Tue May 17, 2016 1:55 pm

Hey guys - I have CA bar prep materials I am looking to unload if you don't want to pay for the full prep course. I was a second time taker and passed this time around. I think people under estimate how important it is to study for essays/PTs. Writing is a huge chunk of the test. Shoot me a PM if you're interested in the books!

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by newusername » Tue May 17, 2016 3:53 pm

I've started looking into hiring a tutor. The first time i scored a 1392 with barbri. This second time i self-studied and got a 1418. My mbe improved by a lot, but i did better on the writing portion the first time. I am looking into Lisa Duncanson or Steve Harris. Anyone have any experience with them? Or other tutors? I'm in the southern california area.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue May 17, 2016 6:07 pm

achewood wrote:
MarcZero wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
Californialaw1464 wrote:I got a 1464 Scaled MBE but did not pass the exam :-( What are my options for waiving into any other jurisdiction. For what it matters, I am licensed in a Tribal Court recognized by the State of California. I would prefer to DC. Can this be done?

I believe that MBE scores can only be transferred to other jurisdictions if you pass the whole exam.. So if you failed, you can't transfer your MBE score, even if your MBE score is high enough to waive into a different jrx.

If i am wrong about this, someone please let me know, I have a 1535 scaled MBE
Unfortunately, you are correct. You need to pass to transfer your MBE score. :-(
...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.

Wait, so it is possible to waive into other jrx's with a high MBE score, even if I failed the entire CA exam? I will have to look into this.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue May 17, 2016 6:08 pm

rcharter1978 wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:These are my scores. I really suck at essay writing. I had 2 hours of sleep the first night...but my scores of the 1st day are even slightly higher versus the 3rd day. Doesn't make sense. I was in a mental fog the entire 1st day.

Though I think my MBE score (1535) is good right? Does my MBE score roughly translate to 153 raw?

essay 1: 55
essay 2: 55
essay 3: 50

essay 4: 55
essay 5: 50
essay 6: 50

PT A: 60
PT B: 55

Raw written: 545.0
Scaled Written: 1188.8768
Scaled MBE: 1535

Total scaled: 1310.0199
I remember you once outlined how you prepped for previous administrations, but I can't remember...have you ever used a tutor? Just seems to me like you know the law as evidenced by a great MBE score -- but you have trouble with the writing.

I had the same trouble, and I got a tutor. I talked mad shit about my tutor, but he gave me some really solid advice even though he could be harsh and sometimes I didn't understand what he was talking about and I questioned some of his advice. But that guy was onto something. I think if you got a writing tutor that you really believed in and one that worked well with you, it could probably help you turn all that knowledge into passing essays and PT's. The tutor I used was a former bar grader, and there are at least two other tutors out here in California that are former bar graders. Two of them are up north (where you are, IIRC). And Kaplan has one on one tutoring as well....at a far more reasonable price (but not particularly former bar graders).

I have complete faith that you can do this.
Thanks I will be looking into a tutor. My essays need help, but I ham happy with my MBEs

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue May 17, 2016 6:49 pm

achewood wrote: ...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.

This is from the DC website:

"Has been awarded a J.D. or LL.B. degree by a law school which, at the time
of the awarding of the degree, was approved by the American Bar Association; (B)
Has been admitted to the practice of law in any state or territory of the United States
upon the successful completion of a written bar examination and has received a
scaled score of 133 or more on the Multistate Bar Examination which the state or
territory deems to have been taken as a part ofsuch examination;
and (C) Hastaken
and passed -- with a scaled score of 75 or more -- the Multistate Professional
Responsibility Examination (MPRE) given under the auspices of the Multistate Bar
Examination Committee of the National Conference of Bar Examiners; "

If I am reading that correctly, it says MBE score of 133 or higher can be used to waive into DC, but only if the applicant passed the entire exam.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by injun » Tue May 17, 2016 9:32 pm

Congrats to those who passed and my condolences to those who did not. If you came up short, do not despair. I passed on my fourth attempt despite not being close to the 1440 mark (closest I was was 1340). Below are some suggestions that I hope will be of use to someone who may feel as though this test is impossible. I assure you it is definitely not. If you are a repeater, IMO, you will have a leg up over those who are taking the test for the first time in July (especially since this will be the first 2-day administration). The most important things I worked on were:
(1) making an issue checklist for each topic. You need to be able to reproduce a mini-outline as soon as you recognize which subject is being tested. (2) Analyze those pertinent issues that you have identified from your checklist using some form mechanical approach (Please my the post below for some tips.
(3) Use Adaptibar / BarMax to improve MBE scores. My MBE scores increased by quite a bit despite using Adaptibar on a previous attempt. I think I had a 137 scaled during my failed attempts. On my successful attempt , my scaled score was above 150 (this was confirmed by a Score Advisory Report I requested). Hard to describe, but I felt that I was able to accurately cross off which answers were definitely the wrong answers when doing the MBE.

Here is a reproduction of a post I made shortly after I passed last July:

As I mentioned earlier, this was my 4th attempt (i've taken both Feb and July administrations in '14 and '15). I made small improvements each time:
2/14 -> 1284
7/14-> 1315
2/15-> 1340
7/15-> pass

Here are just a few things I did differently this time around:

I. Essays
Just to preface all of this, I was a pretty average student at a lower tiered school, so apologies if the following is basic knowledge to many of you. IMO, bar examiners really do pay special attention to your analysis and want to see the inferences you made based on the facts provided in the question. For each administration, I would get a sense of optimism because I recognized and discussed many of the issues mentioned in the post-mortems that go on here. However, when I got my scores back, I would continually receive 55s and 60s.

After reviewing my answers, it was pretty clear that I was not doing a good job of making my inferences more explicit. In general, I'm sure most applicants will recognize how certain facts can trigger a specific issue. These same applicants then will write the same rules. However, IMO, I think what separates us from each other is how well we express our inferences to the examiner.

In my previous attempts, I would provide analysis using this general formula: "[ELEMENT 1] is satisfied because.." For some reason, I struggled to clearly express the inferences I made from the facts. Using this formula, I would always regurgitate express facts rather than providing examiner with anything more. I used two different tutors, and while both were helpful, LawJunky provided me with a very basic formula that I RIGIDLY applied every time. I truly felt that it made all the difference for me. As you analyze each element under the "A" of your IRAC, format your answer as follows:
[FACT FROM QUESTION] = [ELEMENT FROM RULE] because [why the FACT satisfies this ELEMENT].

Here is just a quick example from one of my practice essays:
CONSPIRACY
Conspiracy requires (1) an agreement between 2 or more people (2) to achieve an unlawful objective (3) intent to achieve the objective. Under Majority rules, (4) there must be an overt act in furtherance of the objective.

(1) an agreement between 2 or more people?
Here, D informed Eric of his plan to take V's computers while she was away. E said he wanted nothing to do with it but offered his pickup if D need to carry computers away. D then borrowed E's pickup while V was supposed to be on vacation. As such there was an agreement between E and D because both E and V agreed that D would use E's pickup truck which he ended up using to take the computers.

(2) achieve an unlawful objective?
Here, the theft of V's computers is an unlawful objective because the computers do not belong to either D or E as they have no right to possess them.

(3) intent to enter an agreement?
Here, D's borrowing of the pickup shows intent because E told D that he could use his pickup to take the computers away. Moreover, D actually used E's pickup to take the computers further demonstrating intent because E did not change his mind or prevent D from using the truck.

(4) intent to achieve the objective?
Here, D informed Eric of plan to take V's computers while she was away. E said he wanted nothing to do with it but offered his pickup if D need to carry computers away. D then borrowed e's pickup while V was supposed to be on vacation. These facts demonstrate intent to achieve the objective because both E and D knew that they did not have a legal right to posses the computers.

Therefore, D will be liable for conspiracy because, for reasons discussed above, all of the elements have been met.

In some instances, the facts give rise to the possibility of other potential issues (e.g., conspiracy and solicitation). IMO, I think it would be a good idea to raise them and dismiss them if not applicable. When one or more elements are NOT satisfied by the facts,my analysis would look something like this :

Solicitation
Solicitation requires (1) requesting another to commit a crime (2) intent for the person to commit the crime.

Here, D informed Eric of plan to take V's computers while she was away. E said he wanted nothing to do with it but offered his pickup if D need to carry computers away. As such, there is no solicitation because, although he did mention his plan to E, D did not explicitly ask E to take V's computers since D planned on doing it himself. Also, D did not explicitly ask E to participate in the crime itself as it appears that E voluntarily offered his truck.

Here, D telling E about his plan to steal the computers does not show intent because he did not intend on E stealing the computers for him or even have E participate in the crime.

Therefore, there was no solicitation because for reasons discussed above, the elements above were not met.

Also, for the essay portions of the exam, I made sure to take my time on the questions I felt I could get the most points from. For instance, I felt good about the Civ Pro and Property questions, so I spent a lot of time on those questions. I think this lead me to have less than an hour for the Crim Pro question (which, I admit, was one of my weaker subjects). I did the same with the CP question...I spent a great deal of time making sure my analysis was how I wanted it to be because I felt that I truly understood the question. IMO, it's better to do quality analysis rather than stick to a specific time allotment for each question and lose out on points.

II. Performance Tests
If you look at my posts, I obsessed over these. Lots of great advice on how to format, but I had real problems understanding how to write a truly responsive answer. Each PT is essentially a puzzle that we are asked to solve. For each prompt, I would create an outline that identified which cases (or sections of a case) or statues were applicable to that specific prompt. I would make this determination by ruling out which cases/statutes were completely in applicable to the prompt. I then would write out the rules and explain the rationale of the court’s decision in those cases. I then would delve into the facts of our case and then make distinctions or analogies based on what our client’s position was.

III. MBE
I felt that this was a major weakness of mine, which is why I focused much of my study on improving my writing. My be scores were 135, 136, and 137 respectively, so I would not be surprised if I did not improve much in this area. I used Adaptibar for the 2/15 exam and on this exam. For this past July, rather that review the blackletter law, I just jumped right in and started answer the Adaptibar questions cold to see what I remembered. I was actually surprised by how much I retained (I was answering questions with about a 70% accuracy). I found myself also being surprised at the answer choices I made previously (Adaptibar keeps a record of the previous answers you selected for a specific question). Based on this, I believe we repeaters have an advantage over first time takers since we likely have a solid knowledge base of the rule of law for each subject.

I hope to discourage repeaters from analyzing the statistics of this exam like I did. I sat there reading percentages and talking my self into believe that this exam requires a perfect performance. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I did not have much to write for questions 5 and 6 of this exam. Also, I was not completely sure of my PT responses, but I made sure to follow the plan I laid out and execute. It seems like A LOT of us missed or goofed hard on questions, yet somehow passed.

If I can be of any more help or if this post is confusing, shoot me a message. I’ve always wanted to give back to this forum because of the comradery here. I’m not sure I would have ever passed if it weren’t for you guys. Take care and best of luck studying!

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by injun » Tue May 17, 2016 9:36 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:
achewood wrote: ...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.

This is from the DC website:

"Has been awarded a J.D. or LL.B. degree by a law school which, at the time
of the awarding of the degree, was approved by the American Bar Association; (B)
Has been admitted to the practice of law in any state or territory of the United States
upon the successful completion of a written bar examination and has received a
scaled score of 133 or more on the Multistate Bar Examination which the state or
territory deems to have been taken as a part ofsuch examination;
and (C) Hastaken
and passed -- with a scaled score of 75 or more -- the Multistate Professional
Responsibility Examination (MPRE) given under the auspices of the Multistate Bar
Examination Committee of the National Conference of Bar Examiners; "

If I am reading that correctly, it says MBE score of 133 or higher can be used to waive into DC, but only if the applicant passed the entire exam.
My friend, I was really rooting for you this time...so sorry to hear. Your MBE scores look like they went up. It sounds like you are almost near the finish line with this thing! Did you practicing using the issue checklist approach? All the best, rooting for you

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Post by Flutefool » Wed May 18, 2016 2:00 am

Hi,

First-time poster here.

Passed NY a few years ago. Moved out to Cali for a job. Failed in February. Will retake in July.

In regards to the February test, I thought my PTs would be my best scores but they wound up being very mediocre. I thought Evidence was my best essay but it wound up being the worst. Scaled MBE was a couple points below passing. Scaled essay score was much worse.

Does anyone care to send me baressays.com promo codes?

Good luck to everyone in July.

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Post by rcharter1978 » Wed May 18, 2016 2:36 am

Flutefool wrote:Hi,

First-time poster here.

Passed NY a few years ago. Moved out to Cali for a job. Failed in February. Will retake in July.

In regards to the February test, I thought my PTs would be my best scores but they wound up being very mediocre. I thought Evidence was my best essay but it wound up being the worst. Scaled MBE was a couple points below passing. Scaled essay score was much worse.

Does anyone care to send me baressays.com promo codes?

Good luck to everyone in July.

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Sorry -- I have no codes (I'm sure someone does).

I thought the evidence essay was difficult, because sometimes its hard to remember the California distinctions, and I imagine it might be harder when you're used to NY. PT's are the very worst, I think a lot of people who have worked or written extensively in practice assume that their PT scores are going to be awesome, because they are used to legal writing. But there are at least two people I know of who didn't pass the first time, even though they were used to writing in practice.

And I vaguely remember someone saying that if you took the attorneys exam, you had to average a 70 on the essays/PTs. Thats tough. While you haven't asked.....I used the PT book by Mary Ghallegar (?) and I found it helpful in terms of having a system to record information and a general idea of what the examiners wanted. I've also heard about a weekend PT session that is supposed to be pretty good.

Good luck in July -- if you passed NYC you can crush CA!

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Post by Das » Wed May 18, 2016 2:41 am

long time lurker first time poster. i passed this exam after 2 tries. can't say anything more than "i am so relieved." i thought i would be happier but it's more of a relief.

for those who didn't pass, please do not give up. this exam is so passable.

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Das wrote:long time lurker first time poster. i passed this exam after 2 tries. can't say anything more than "i am so relieved." i thought i would be happier but it's more of a relief.

for those who didn't pass, please do not give up. this exam is so passable.
For me, its relief, disbelief and happiness. I've become everything I hate. I've told every single person I know, don't know and just met that I passed the bar exam. Yesterday I told the checker at the grocery store. Today, I told the guy at the front desk of my gym. I've become the absolute worst and I don't even care.

The only people I'm really keeping it from are other people in my life who either didn't pass, or I'm not sure of their status. I didn't post to FB at all, because I know how much it hurt when everyone else posted last time.

But it seriously feels like there just isn't an axe hanging over my head any more. I can move on with life.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by achewood » Wed May 18, 2016 10:07 am

6TimeFailure wrote:
achewood wrote: ...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.

This is from the DC website:

"Has been awarded a J.D. or LL.B. degree by a law school which, at the time
of the awarding of the degree, was approved by the American Bar Association; (B)
Has been admitted to the practice of law in any state or territory of the United States
upon the successful completion of a written bar examination and has received a
scaled score of 133 or more on the Multistate Bar Examination which the state or
territory deems to have been taken as a part ofsuch examination;
and (C) Hastaken
and passed -- with a scaled score of 75 or more -- the Multistate Professional
Responsibility Examination (MPRE) given under the auspices of the Multistate Bar
Examination Committee of the National Conference of Bar Examiners; "

If I am reading that correctly, it says MBE score of 133 or higher can be used to waive into DC, but only if the applicant passed the entire exam.
That's one option. Another option is available for MBE > 133, so long as the MBE subjects have not changed.

http://www.dccourts.gov/internet/docume ... on_rev.pdf

Under Rule 46(b)(8)(i)(A):

(A) An applicant may request the Committee to accept a prior
MBE administration provided that:
1. The prior MBE scaled score is not less than 133;
2. The subjects of the prior MBE are identical to those
comprising the present MBE section; and
3. The prior administration was within 25 months of the
present administration.

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Post by RoseBuddy » Wed May 18, 2016 12:14 pm

I totally agree with you on the facebook thing. It really sucked seeing all the "I passed the bar" statuses last July. I even deactivated my facebook lol. But it's actually been nice without it, still haven't reactivated it.

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achewood wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
achewood wrote: ...I don't think this is true. I didn't pass the Cal exam but transferred my MBE score to another jrx. Check the jrx's rules though, I believe this only applies to DC and possibly Minnesota.

This is from the DC website:

"Has been awarded a J.D. or LL.B. degree by a law school which, at the time
of the awarding of the degree, was approved by the American Bar Association; (B)
Has been admitted to the practice of law in any state or territory of the United States
upon the successful completion of a written bar examination and has received a
scaled score of 133 or more on the Multistate Bar Examination which the state or
territory deems to have been taken as a part ofsuch examination;
and (C) Hastaken
and passed -- with a scaled score of 75 or more -- the Multistate Professional
Responsibility Examination (MPRE) given under the auspices of the Multistate Bar
Examination Committee of the National Conference of Bar Examiners; "

If I am reading that correctly, it says MBE score of 133 or higher can be used to waive into DC, but only if the applicant passed the entire exam.
That's one option. Another option is available for MBE > 133, so long as the MBE subjects have not changed.

http://www.dccourts.gov/internet/docume ... on_rev.pdf

Under Rule 46(b)(8)(i)(A):

(A) An applicant may request the Committee to accept a prior
MBE administration provided that:
1. The prior MBE scaled score is not less than 133;
2. The subjects of the prior MBE are identical to those
comprising the present MBE section; and
3. The prior administration was within 25 months of the
present administration.
So -- if you pass in CA do you have to pass with a 133 or above on the MBE? We don't get our scores back, so is it just impossible to pass the entire test with an MBE score under 133? Just curious.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by a male human » Wed May 18, 2016 12:26 pm

No, you just need a composite score of 1440. You could get a low MBE score and still pass if you rock the written portion.
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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by Raiden » Wed May 18, 2016 12:27 pm

ForeignAttorney wrote:I am a foreign attorney and not to familiar with the format & scoring. Can someone interpret my scores and suggest improvement areas?

Essay 1: 60.0 .0 60.0
Essay 2: 50.0 .0 60.0
Essay 3: 50.0 .0 60.0
Essay 4: 55.0 .0 60.0
Essay 5: 50.0 .0 60.0
Essay 6: 60.0 .0 60.0
PT A : 55.0 .0 60.0
PT B : 60.0 .0 60.0

Raw Written : 555.0
Scaled Written : 1223.8798
Scale MBE : 1003.0000

TOTAL SCALED SCORE : 1146.5719
You have lots of areas of where you can see substantial improvement. The biggest jump you'd see in your score would be in improving your MBE score. I'd recommend practicing quite a bit with real MBE questions. But don't just do practice for the sake of practicing, make sure you focus on inculcating good habits when taking MBE practice questions.

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Re: California February 2016 Bar Exam (Westside For Life)

Post by LockBox » Wed May 18, 2016 12:29 pm

As a third time repeater, I appreciate all of the posts from those who passed and what they did. I especially appreciated the post a few above by Injun as I believe i had the same drawback re: analysis on essays. Had to put the job on hold to get in the library to get this done one last time.

To that effect, does anyone have an adaptibar code they could send me? It would be much appreciated.

edit: does anyone have any recommendations about PT workshops? I passed the PT portion, but just barely. I am wondering if an investment along these lines might pay dividends. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!


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