BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam Forum

[charlesxavier]

Oh well, we're done!! And my state will only tell me if I pass or not, so I wouldn't even know how well or poorly I did on the MBE.

I'm just sitting here in my hotel room looking over my notes for the six essays in the mornings

[kyle010723]

Oh well, we're done!! And my state will only tell me if I pass or not, so I wouldn't even know how well or poorly I did on the MBE.

I'm just sitting here in my hotel room looking over my notes for the six essays in the mornings

Essays? Huh?

[History_Buff]

Well for better or for worse I'm done. Fuck this shit. Where's the goddamn booze?

[cdelgado]

Oh well, we're done!! And my state will only tell me if I pass or not, so I wouldn't even know how well or poorly I did on the MBE.

I'm just sitting here in my hotel room looking over my notes for the six essays in the mornings

Essays? Huh?

Yeah not all of us are done.

[cdelgado]

I'm still pissed about this MBE. Hopefully I did okay, but this whole "minimum competency" thing is a charade. That MBE was fit for a law school exam.

[rickgrimes69]

I don't know who I should even be most angry at.

Should I be mad at NY BOLE for giving us a bunch of essays which consisted almost exclusively of insanely detailed distinctions, some of which they have literally never tested before?

Should I be mad at NCBE for taking the opportunity to introduce Civ Pro with questions so difficult Chem himself would be mouthing "what the eff" while doing them?

Should I be mad at Barbri for completely dropping the ball and wholly failing to prepare us for either, despite giving us rage strokes over the last two months with their insane workload and terribly written questions?

Should I just be mad at myself for expecting anything different / willingly subjecting myself to this?

Someone must be blamed. I have some soul searching to do.

[charlesxavier]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

[History_Buff]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

[charlesxavier]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure before I begin worrying for the next 3 months about what order my answers were in compared to someone else.

[victortsoi]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

But all am and all pm exams are the same right? In terms of what questions they contain?

[cdelgado]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure before I begin worrying for the next 3 months about what order my answers were in compared to someone else.

How would you remember your answers and questions in enough detail?

[kyle010723]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure before I begin worrying for the next 3 months about what order my answers were in compared to someone else.

How would you remember your answers and questions in enough detail?

I honestly cannot remember more than 2 questions and the answer I picked anymore. That's probably a good thing since there's nothing we can do now.

[charlesxavier]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure before I begin worrying for the next 3 months about what order my answers were in compared to someone else.

How would you remember your answers and questions in enough detail?

I don't. People are saying they got a bunch of B's or D's in a row but presumably that wouldn't apply to everyone if the questions are in a different order.

[despina]

Shameless plug because I don't want the sample to be biased toward my Kaplan compatriots -- poll for MBE difficulty vs expectations: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=251990

[vulaw]

Maybe it's just me, but I felt like almost all of barbri/Guzman's tips were worthless. It's like the questions were written to avoid them being helpful.

I 100% agree. It felt like the MBE purposely tested around what Barbri taught.

[mr.hands]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure before I begin worrying for the next 3 months about what order my answers were in compared to someone else.

How would you remember your answers and questions in enough detail?

I don't. People are saying they got a bunch of B's or D's in a row but presumably that wouldn't apply to everyone if the questions are in a different order.

Can confirm. I had tons of Bs and Ds.

[Good Guy Gaud]

Damn that shit was rough

[MaroPolo]

I don't. People are saying they got a bunch of B's or D's in a row but presumably that wouldn't apply to everyone if the questions are in a different order.

Can confirm. I had tons of Bs and Ds.[/quote]

Same experience. Some A/C repeaters, but majority were Bs and Ds. Think I had a string of 4 Ds at one point.

[bear patrol]

I don't. People are saying they got a bunch of B's or D's in a row but presumably that wouldn't apply to everyone if the questions are in a different order.

Can confirm. I had tons of Bs and Ds.

Same experience. Some A/C repeaters, but majority were Bs and Ds. Think I had a string of 4 Ds at one point.[/quote]

Same here. I don't know why it makes me feel better but it makes me feel better knowing other people had a bunch of B's and D's too.

[MaroPolo]

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[Neff]

Of the 200, I counted 92 that I thought were correct beyond a reasonable doubt. The remaining 108 I was uncertain about, ranging from "probably X but could be wrong" to "WTF no idea."

[Devlin]

I don't know who I should even be most angry at.

Should I be mad at NY BOLE for giving us a bunch of essays which consisted almost exclusively of insanely detailed distinctions, some of which they have literally never tested before?

Should I be mad at NCBE for taking the opportunity to introduce Civ Pro with questions so difficult Chem himself would be mouthing "what the eff" while doing them?

Should I be mad at Barbri for completely dropping the ball and wholly failing to prepare us for either, despite giving us rage strokes over the last two months with their insane workload and terribly written questions?

Should I just be mad at myself for expecting anything different / willingly subjecting myself to this?

Someone must be blamed. I have some soul searching to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

[Tiago Splitter]

Of the 200, I counted 92 that I thought were correct beyond a reasonable doubt. The remaining 108 I was uncertain about, ranging from "probably X but could be wrong" to "WTF no idea."

92 lead pipe locks is pretty good. 50/50 on the rest is still a heck of a score.

[old_soul]

Aren't there like 10 different forms of the MBE? Same questions just a different order?

I think that's correct.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure before I begin worrying for the next 3 months about what order my answers were in compared to someone else.

How would you remember your answers and questions in enough detail?

I don't. People are saying they got a bunch of B's or D's in a row but presumably that wouldn't apply to everyone if the questions are in a different order.

Can confirm. I had tons of Bs and Ds.

Tons of Bs and Ds. Yup. Some Cs in a row but rare. Did anyone notice that A was often a very threshold kind of rule statement? Whenever I would pick A it would make me super nervous.

Also, it seemed to me that this exam was assuming you knew the law, and they were testing a kind of analysis that goes 5 steps beyond. I don't think 75% of the qs compared to what we saw in Barbri. Format was completely different. Very few straightorward questions, maybe 15 of them I'm confident I got right. Yeah, almost none of Guzman's stuff applied. I thought Con law was super hard too.

[Neff]

Of the 200, I counted 92 that I thought were correct beyond a reasonable doubt. The remaining 108 I was uncertain about, ranging from "probably X but could be wrong" to "WTF no idea."

92 lead pipe locks is pretty good. 50/50 on the rest is still a heck of a score.

Well, a decent number of the 92 may be wrong because they're one of those questions where I immediately think I know the answer to, only to find out after grading that I misread the question because I got ahead of myself. Taking that into account, I still think/hope I passed, but it's rather too close for comfort.