Barbri paced program question? Forum

[AJS30]

In regards to evidence, can someone please explain what a collateral matter is?

[bigstumpdriver]

In regards to evidence, can someone please explain what a collateral matter is?

A issue that is not central to the case. So like not something that is proof towards a criminal element or a defense. Doesn't have to be criminal obvi.

Its an issue that is secondary and would be almost like a trial inside a trial

[adonai]

Great idea. Mixed sets or regular ones? I am really thinking that doing the MPQ sets 5 & 6 with how shitty I am doing is not a good idea.

I am almost exclusively drilling Property and Contracts MBEs. Once I feel comfortable, I'm gonna be moving on to the other subjects. I got 7/34 on contracts on the simulated. After re-outlining and re-studying, I did a set of 64 contracts MBEs and got 40/64. Not good, but improving. Do real MBEs. We're short on time and so I felt it was a good idea to ditch the fake barbri stuff and get as close to the real thing as possible.

[pkt63]

In regards to evidence, can someone please explain what a collateral matter is?

A good example from the materials I remember was someone cross-examining a W that maybe saw the murder or whatever? And the W said they were coming home from their grandma's house, but in fact they were coming home from their girlfriend's house. Why does that matter to the case where he was coming from? It doesn't. It's collateral.

But, in another example, with same facts, but W had said he was coming home from grandma's when in fact he was coming home from a bar. That is not a collateral matter, because there could be an issue of whether he drank a lot and whether his perception of the event he purportedly witnessed is trustworthy. So not collateral.

[AJS30]

In regards to evidence, can someone please explain what a collateral matter is?

A good example from the materials I remember was someone cross-examining a W that maybe saw the murder or whatever? And the W said they were coming home from their grandma's house, but in fact they were coming home from their girlfriend's house. Why does that matter to the case where he was coming from? It doesn't. It's collateral.

But, in another example, with same facts, but W had said he was coming home from grandma's when in fact he was coming home from a bar. That is not a collateral matter, because there could be an issue of whether he drank a lot and whether his perception of the event he purportedly witnessed is trustworthy. So not collateral.

Thank you!

[bigstumpdriver]

We can all be together in this Time for positivity and elp. What a great group

[nygrrrl]

Great idea. Mixed sets or regular ones? I am really thinking that doing the MPQ sets 5 & 6 with how good I am doing is not a shitty idea.

We can all be together in this now. Time for positivity and help. What a great group.

At first I wanted to hate this... but it made me smile in the middle of contracts review.
Yep, we're all in this together.

eta: haha like I ever used those colors. Nice try.

[jd20132013]

some of these answers to con law questions piss me off.

who ever describes a "compelling" interest as "overriding"? that's a cheap way to make the right answer look wrong

[LouEVille]

i wouldn't worry too much about that. those are used in large part to teach nuances it seems. it won't go up unless you spent time digging through the BIG Barbri book (not the conviser)

SN: I still feel like those mbe workshop videos have gems in them, but they're not a good investment of 1.5 hours to watch the whole thing. Wish Barbri would put up the transcripts of those videos so that we could skim for those useful exam tips

That's true, which is frustrating in itself though because it makes it tough to get a true read on where you're really deficient. I totally bombed contracts on the MSE, but got 70%+ correct on the SFE earlier this evening. And then I crushed con law on the MSE but was mediocre on the SFE, largely due to some very nitpicky (IMO, at least) questions.

Agreed about the workshops. I get a few good pointers from each video, but at this point I'm not keen on spending an entire day watching the review lectures for the SFE. Just mainly planning on reviewing the explanations for questions I got wrong.

[jd20132013]

I was really confused for a second by you talking about the SFE but I forgot we're all on different schedules here. Wow @ yall taking that already though? seems early

[LouEVille]

Yeah, we took our simulated MBE last friday (the 27th), which was also earlier than most locations from what I gather.

[At the Drive-In]

Did everyone do crappy on contracts in the simulated MBE? That was my worst subject, despite me literally guessing for about 1/3 of the property questions.

[UndecidedMN]

Bombed property, especially easements and I have not taken evidence so I did horrible. Got 101 and did not review torts or evidence a head of time. Got above 60% on scaled score for Con Law and Crim Pro. Crim Pro Amp really helped me there. Also got the critical pass flash cards, they have been a god send to me. Would be happy to post link so you can get free shipping, or today prob be here by Friday or Sat.

[lilyorchid]

I got a 122 overall which is a good place to be working from. I've got three green subject, two red, and one yellow. Are people focusing on the weak spots in their strong subjects or doing an all-out review of their bad topics? or some combination of both.

[plath]

I got a 133 overall and am focusing on really analyzing my mistakes instead of going back to drilling at the moment. Been watching the analysis lectures and some of them are quite useful.

[LAWYER2]

[LouEVille]

If revocation is by offeror's conduct, then the offeree must learn of the conduct for the offer to be effectively revoked.

EDIT: ^^ Guess you figured it out?

[LAWYER2]

If revocation is by offeror's conduct, then the offeree must learn of the conduct for the offer to be effectively revoked.

EDIT: ^^ Guess you figured it out?

Yes I did. I read the answer wrong, thx though

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[smellylawstudent]

Closer to 400 iirc.

Today I cannot study. Brain just feels dead and I can't access my memory to things that know this ever happen to anyone else?

[northwood]

Closer to 400 iirc.

Today I cannot study. Brain just feels dead and I can't access my memory to things that know this ever happen to anyone else?

take the rest of the day and do something you like.. your brain ( like any other muscle) needs some time to rest and recover. when your body tells you to slow down, listen before your body forces you to ( and it will take much longer to recover)

[mvpforme]

I have for the past few days and and continue to feel burned out.

[northwood]

perhaps you need to change how you are studying ( i.e just read essays not outline...or go over your flashcards,or copy them in a word format, or see how you can string concepts together to form an introductionary paragraph to an essay ( the Rule paragraph) or ( don't laugh) take your cellphone- pretend you are calling someone ( but don't actually call them) and have a convefrsation about how awesome this crazy new concept called ( whatever subject you want ), and then read your outline into the phone- and when you are done, explain the concept in your own words... sure it is strange, but it may help you grasp the concept in your own words, and by holding the phone you can put the paper down and not look at it)

[pkt63]

I have for the past few days and and continue to feel burned out.

I feel you guys. Yesterday I was waiting at the doctor's office forever and trying to use my time drilling flashcards. I got to the point where not only could I not remember them, but I couldn't even read them to myself to try to just build familiarity. My brain was just dead. A bad sign after just three days of studying coming off the July 4th holiday weekend. I'm definitely worried I won't be at my peak in 3 weeks. I feel like 1-2 weeks ago was my peak

Finally finished the last topic's lecture today so at least no more learning new stuff. Although given the rate at which I've forgotten things, it seems like it will probably all feel new again when I start reviewing. This feels impossible, even though I know we've heard from past bar takers that it all comes together in the last 2 weeks.