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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by storge » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:31 pm

Thanks!
THE_U wrote:Mixed Subject Question Sets (50 questions each)
Set 1 – 31 correct (62%)
Set 2 – 33 correct (66%)
Set 3 – 33 correct (66%)
Set 4 – 34 correct (68%)
Set 5 – 34 correct (68%)
Set 6 – 34 correct (68%)
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Post by MrMustache » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:34 pm

The bar exam is around the corner and I still don't feel like I've memorized anything. It's like, I understand the major concepts, but when it comes to writing down the black letter law for the exam, I'm stumped.

What scares me the most is that this is exactly how I felt as the last bar was approaching. I'm really hoping all of this will come together as I spend the remaining days answering MBEs and taking practice essays...

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Post by DueProcessDoWheelies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:50 pm

MrMustache wrote:The bar exam is around the corner and I still don't feel like I've memorized anything. It's like, I understand the major concepts, but when it comes to writing down the black letter law for the exam, I'm stumped.

What scares me the most is that this is exactly how I felt as the last bar was approaching. I'm really hoping all of this will come together as I spend the remaining days answering MBEs and taking practice essays...
I felt the same way but I feel like it all comes together on exam day. Like you see a question and your brain recalls what the law is.

How are your MBEs going?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by THE_U » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:58 pm

I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by NY_Sea » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:11 pm

THE_U wrote:I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?
I feel I have it down relatively well... Did 30 adaptibar questions this morning and 10 of them were civ pro. Got them all correct.

What seems to be tripping you up?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by MrMustache » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:14 pm

DueProcessDoWheelies wrote:
MrMustache wrote:The bar exam is around the corner and I still don't feel like I've memorized anything. It's like, I understand the major concepts, but when it comes to writing down the black letter law for the exam, I'm stumped.

What scares me the most is that this is exactly how I felt as the last bar was approaching. I'm really hoping all of this will come together as I spend the remaining days answering MBEs and taking practice essays...
I felt the same way but I feel like it all comes together on exam day. Like you see a question and your brain recalls what the law is.

How are your MBEs going?
The MBEs are definitely going better than last time. But with MBEs, I still feel like I see what rule they are trying to test in the question, and even though I might not remember what that rule is exactly I still remember what that rule is NOT, and can still get the right answer by process of elimination.

Either way, 13 days is a lot of time. Time to up the effort and hope for the better.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by fadedsunrise » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:51 pm

MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by MTBike » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:03 pm

fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by NY_Sea » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:12 pm

MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.
This. I know it's tough being the last two weeks, but if you feel yourself getting lower scores or not being able to retain much information, that's your body telling you that it needs a break. Take an hour and do whatever helps you relax or feel refreshed. Take a nap, play video games, go for a run, whatever... You can't be pedal to the metal the whole time. It won't end well.

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Post by Fleetoffoot4 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:19 pm

So…
Retaking in Oregon. I know the passing combine score is 284, and Barbri says you need a 142 MBE and 142 essay/MPT. I'm wondering if a high MBE score can make up for a low essay and still pass in Oregon, say 160 MBE and 126 essay, or whether we need a minimum 142 on each section alone. Any insight much appreciated.

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Post by amk110 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:23 pm

Fleetoffoot4 wrote:So…
Retaking in Oregon. I know the passing combine score is 284, and Barbri says you need a 142 MBE and 142 essay/MPT. I'm wondering if a high MBE score can make up for a low essay and still pass in Oregon, say 160 MBE and 126 essay, or whether we need a minimum 142 on each section alone. Any insight much appreciated.

Good luck to everyone on the final push!
I'm also an Oregon re-taker, and to my knowledge, there isn't a minimum requirement for either section, provided you hit the 284 needed to pass. (I had a 140.6 MBE and a 134.4 written last time, for 275/284), and I'm really hoping to just hit it out of the park with the MBE this time.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by Fleetoffoot4 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:36 pm

amk110 wrote:
Fleetoffoot4 wrote:So…
Retaking in Oregon. I know the passing combine score is 284, and Barbri says you need a 142 MBE and 142 essay/MPT. I'm wondering if a high MBE score can make up for a low essay and still pass in Oregon, say 160 MBE and 126 essay, or whether we need a minimum 142 on each section alone. Any insight much appreciated.

Good luck to everyone on the final push!
I'm also an Oregon re-taker, and to my knowledge, there isn't a minimum requirement for either section, provided you hit the 284 needed to pass. (I had a 140.6 MBE and a 134.4 written last time, for 275/284), and I'm really hoping to just hit it out of the park with the MBE this time.
Nice. that is what I was thinking as well, Barbri threw me off with their "142 on each section" business. I'm sure you'll kill it this time (and knowing that 275 is passing in almost every other state in the country should boost your confidence.) I have a bit more ground to cover, 265 in July with a 136 MBE. Banking on a strong MBE this time and hopefully essays in the mid 130s.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by amk110 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:49 pm

Fleetoffoot4 wrote:
amk110 wrote:
Fleetoffoot4 wrote:So…
Retaking in Oregon. I know the passing combine score is 284, and Barbri says you need a 142 MBE and 142 essay/MPT. I'm wondering if a high MBE score can make up for a low essay and still pass in Oregon, say 160 MBE and 126 essay, or whether we need a minimum 142 on each section alone. Any insight much appreciated.

Good luck to everyone on the final push!
I'm also an Oregon re-taker, and to my knowledge, there isn't a minimum requirement for either section, provided you hit the 284 needed to pass. (I had a 140.6 MBE and a 134.4 written last time, for 275/284), and I'm really hoping to just hit it out of the park with the MBE this time.
Nice. that is what I was thinking as well, Barbri threw me off with their "142 on each section" business. I'm sure you'll kill it this time (and knowing that 275 is passing in almost every other state in the country should boost your confidence.) I have a bit more ground to cover, 265 in July with a 136 MBE. Banking on a strong MBE this time and hopefully essays in the mid 130s.
It was pretty upsetting to see that a 275 would've been passing in most other jurisdictions. All the more reason I wish we'd join the UBE. (Rumor is, we're strongly considering it.)

My previous attempt was July 2014, so I'm pretty worried about how I'll do with the addition of civil procedure. We're also overdue for some essay topics that I'm terrible at (secured trans, wills...)

Don't quote me on the minimum score requirement. I vaguely recall hearing something about such a requirement when I was discussing my results with someone in the know back when I got them in 2014, and this requirement was brought up. However, I specifically asked that same person about such a requirement earlier this month, and was told there was no such minimum score required for the sections, provided you hit the total. Which makes sense, in light of the many topics here and elsewhere to the effect of "Strong MBE = autopass in 50% jurisdiction?"

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by tealeaf23 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:52 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.
This. I know it's tough being the last two weeks, but if you feel yourself getting lower scores or not being able to retain much information, that's your body telling you that it needs a break. Take an hour and do whatever helps you relax or feel refreshed. Take a nap, play video games, go for a run, whatever... You can't be pedal to the metal the whole time. It won't end well.
This was my biggest struggle last time and this time. I'm feeling the same dread/panic at the same time I'm feeling my body's physical exhaustion from spending so much time studying and being stressed. The hardest thing I've had to do this time around is walk away for a bit. Actually enjoy an hour long dinner or a TV show at a reasonable hour. It might seem counterintuitive at first but I can already see the positive effects it's been having on my retention. Don't feel bad for taking some time for yourself! I agree with NY_Sea. I think it'll pay off.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by NY_Sea » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:04 pm

tealeaf23 wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.
This. I know it's tough being the last two weeks, but if you feel yourself getting lower scores or not being able to retain much information, that's your body telling you that it needs a break. Take an hour and do whatever helps you relax or feel refreshed. Take a nap, play video games, go for a run, whatever... You can't be pedal to the metal the whole time. It won't end well.
This was my biggest struggle last time and this time. I'm feeling the same dread/panic at the same time I'm feeling my body's physical exhaustion from spending so much time studying and being stressed. The hardest thing I've had to do this time around is walk away for a bit. Actually enjoy an hour long dinner or a TV show at a reasonable hour. It might seem counterintuitive at first but I can already see the positive effects it's been having on my retention. Don't feel bad for taking some time for yourself! I agree with NY_Sea. I think it'll pay off.
My situation this go-around is a little different since I'm working full time, but I still agree with you. There were days early on where I gave myself a break and I think it's really helped. I took off all next week, so maybe I'll give myself a little time to myself in the mornings.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by THE_U » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:32 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?
I feel I have it down relatively well... Did 30 adaptibar questions this morning and 10 of them were civ pro. Got them all correct.

What seems to be tripping you up?
Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by NY_Sea » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:36 pm

THE_U wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?
I feel I have it down relatively well... Did 30 adaptibar questions this morning and 10 of them were civ pro. Got them all correct.

What seems to be tripping you up?
Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.
Are you talking state Civ Pro (like statutes of limitations, answering deadlines, service w/in 120 days, etc.) or are you talking Multistate Civ Pro (like smj/supplemental, venue, removal, transfer, etc.)?

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

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THE_U wrote: Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.
That's how it will feel on the exam too, but it's just because of the quantity of information. But without memorizing lists of elements, you can still be ready for the exam. You just have to be in that place where the questions trigger you to know the one thing that you need to get the right answer. If you're getting most of them right consistently, you're probably there (luck gets proved out after enough practice questions). Just focus on your weak points from here on while doing 30-40 maintenance questions on your strong subjects.
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Post by fadedsunrise » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:46 pm

MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.
Ugh, I haven't been at it that hard though. 8-9 hours M-F and two half days on the weekends. I practice martial arts twice a week still. But maybe slightly more relaxing for a day or two is in order :|

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by NY_Sea » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:51 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?
I feel I have it down relatively well... Did 30 adaptibar questions this morning and 10 of them were civ pro. Got them all correct.

What seems to be tripping you up?
Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.
Are you talking state Civ Pro (like statutes of limitations, answering deadlines, service w/in 120 days, etc.) or are you talking Multistate Civ Pro (like smj/supplemental, venue, removal, transfer, etc.)?
I also think the dates/deadlines aren't the big picture in Fed Civ Pro... They're probably not going to hinge a question regarding a RJMOL on the fact that the guy moved for it 29 days after the judgment instead of 28. They're more likely to just check if you know that you need to make a JMOL during the trial in order to move for a RJMOL after judgment.

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Post by Sue » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:06 pm

fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
Ignore your Adaptibar CivPro scores. CivPro national average is only 50% there because the questions are nothing like real ones. If your overall is above average, you'll be fine.

I'd say work on Evidence more, because people are at 63% for it. Also, because Evidence questions are pretty short even on the real exam, you'll gain more time by doing them, than spending time for let's say, Contracts.

My struggle is RP and Contracts (58 and 59 respectively). I don't even talk about CivPro. But I'd rather do Barbri CivPro questions, or the released ones that are on NCBE website. Check that first to see if your score is still low from CivPro.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by THE_U » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:07 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?
I feel I have it down relatively well... Did 30 adaptibar questions this morning and 10 of them were civ pro. Got them all correct.

What seems to be tripping you up?
Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.
Are you talking state Civ Pro (like statutes of limitations, answering deadlines, service w/in 120 days, etc.) or are you talking Multistate Civ Pro (like smj/supplemental, venue, removal, transfer, etc.)?
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NY_Sea wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
THE_U wrote:I'm really worried about Civ Pro.

I feel like nothing I have done is adequately preparing me and I remember how ridiculous some of those questions were on the real thing.

Anyone feeling like they have Civ Pro down really well?
I feel I have it down relatively well... Did 30 adaptibar questions this morning and 10 of them were civ pro. Got them all correct.

What seems to be tripping you up?
Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.
Are you talking state Civ Pro (like statutes of limitations, answering deadlines, service w/in 120 days, etc.) or are you talking Multistate Civ Pro (like smj/supplemental, venue, removal, transfer, etc.)?
I also think the dates/deadlines aren't the big picture in Fed Civ Pro... They're probably not going to hinge a question regarding a RJMOL on the fact that the guy moved for it 29 days after the judgment instead of 28. They're more likely to just check if you know that you need to make a JMOL during the trial in order to move for a RJMOL after judgment.
If that's the case, then I guess I'm less worried. The actual MBE in July is a blur and I don't really remember how heavy (if at all), the questions were on dates. I just remember a lot of JMOL questions
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THE_U wrote: Just feel like it's hard for me to memorize these rules because I can't get in to the subject. And all of the dates/deadlines overwhelm me and just blend into each other. I do decent/well on the questions, but I feel like I am guessing a lot of the time, rather than being really sure of the answer I am picking. I feel as if I am getting lucky and like I really don't know the subject. I dunno, maybe I'm just panicking.
That's how it will feel on the exam too, but it's just because of the quantity of information. But without memorizing lists of elements, you can still be ready for the exam. You just have to be in that place where the questions trigger you to know the one thing that you need to get the right answer. If you're getting most of them right consistently, you're probably there (luck gets proved out after enough practice questions). Just focus on your weak points from here on while doing 30-40 maintenance questions on your strong subjects.
Yeah, I've done a decent amount of questions, so you are probably right about it not being luck. Like I said earlier, maybe I'm just freaking out for no legitimate reason.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by MTBike » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:20 pm

fadedsunrise wrote:
MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.
Ugh, I haven't been at it that hard though. 8-9 hours M-F and two half days on the weekends. I practice martial arts twice a week still. But maybe slightly more relaxing for a day or two is in order :|
8-9 hours a day is a lot, especially if they're pretty much consecutive hours.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by cjusticenu » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:21 pm

I feel like I'm the only one freaking out more about essays then the MBE. My thought is that if I work the essays and BLL, then the MBE questions will just get easier. And worst case, I can almost always just narrow it down to 2 answers instead of 4 (which are decent enough odds).

What are you guys doing to prepare for the essays? I've been following the Barbri schedule almost perfectly (maybe 8-9% below what they've assigned), but on the essays so far this week, I feel like I'm missing stuff, or not explaining enough, or something. I know their model answers are way more in-depth than I'd ever have time for (I'm in a UBE state, so 6 essays, 30 minutes an essay), but I'm still either dumbfounded by the law they are asking about (e.g. didn't understand the whole assurance thing in contracts until I couldn't answer the essay on it) or I'm missing part of the analysis (getting 2 out of 3 elements on a crime). Any and all last minute help would be amazing.

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Re: BarBri Bar Review Hangout - February 2016 Exam

Post by cjusticenu » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:22 pm

MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:
MTBike wrote:
fadedsunrise wrote:MrMustache, I'm feeling you on the dread and hoping it will come together. I feel like I'm hitting that part of the bar prep where my brain is tired and my MBE scores are flagging. I'm at only 50-55% correct for Adaptibar Civ Pro, Evidence, and Contracts (for an overall average of 60% when other subjects are included), and the number has been going down especially in the last week. Friends/family tell me I look like shit (no idea why)

I think I have a harder time with Evidence and Contracts because the standards are very general and the applications very fact based... I did get 66% on both of the recent Barbri 50 Q mixed sets, so there is some hope, but my Adaptibar scores really worry me because I had the same kind of slump before the last bar. :?
If your scores are dropping its because you're exhausted (no you're not suddenly getting dumber). If you continue to grind like a mother fucker when you're physically and mentally exhausted, you're not really doing yourself any favors. You're not retaining a vast majority of the information when you're that exhausted, so its inefficient (and really a waste of time) to continue to grind like that. Take breaks. Eat well. Get some sleep. And relax (easier said that done I know). Then get back at it.
Ugh, I haven't been at it that hard though. 8-9 hours M-F and two half days on the weekends. I practice martial arts twice a week still. But maybe slightly more relaxing for a day or two is in order :|
8-9 hours a day is a lot, especially if they're pretty much consecutive hours.
Really? I'm putting in at least 12+ 7 days a week.... :shock:
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