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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by RoseBuddy » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:56 pm

rcharter1978 wrote:
RoseBuddy wrote:Wow! Had no idea this forum existed. Failed July 2015, will be taking the bar again Feb 2016 in Oakland. It's comforting to know I'm not the only one in this position (though I'm sorry to everyone who has to so this again). Really starting to stress out and afraid I am just paying money to fail again. I really hope it sticks this time because I can't imagine doing this all over...I shouldn't even be posting here right now haha! Ok back to studying...and good luck everyone :) If any other SF/Oakland test takers want to chat, let me know.
I feel the exact same way. Sucks having the exact same conversation with my family that I had six months ago ("don't ask me about the exam, I will tell you in my own time," "there may be tears, which I will hide from you," "I will probably not want to see anyone for awhile") and trying to convince myself that third times the charm.
I know exactly how you feel, my poor mom has been put through the ringer with me lol. And I've been quoting "third times the charm" too. Which is especially annoying, because I told myself if I failed the first time, I would know exactly what to do to pass the next time. And while I think I have been more productive in my studying, I still feel like I am in the same boat ... and now it's filling up with water lol! Well, hope you are doing ok and know you aren't the only one.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by rcharter1978 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:24 pm

RoseBuddy wrote:
rcharter1978 wrote:
RoseBuddy wrote:Wow! Had no idea this forum existed. Failed July 2015, will be taking the bar again Feb 2016 in Oakland. It's comforting to know I'm not the only one in this position (though I'm sorry to everyone who has to so this again). Really starting to stress out and afraid I am just paying money to fail again. I really hope it sticks this time because I can't imagine doing this all over...I shouldn't even be posting here right now haha! Ok back to studying...and good luck everyone :) If any other SF/Oakland test takers want to chat, let me know.
I feel the exact same way. Sucks having the exact same conversation with my family that I had six months ago ("don't ask me about the exam, I will tell you in my own time," "there may be tears, which I will hide from you," "I will probably not want to see anyone for awhile") and trying to convince myself that third times the charm.
I know exactly how you feel, my poor mom has been put through the ringer with me lol. And I've been quoting "third times the charm" too. Which is especially annoying, because I told myself if I failed the first time, I would know exactly what to do to pass the next time. And while I think I have been more productive in my studying, I still feel like I am in the same boat ... and now it's filling up with water lol! Well, hope you are doing ok and know you aren't the only one.
Wow, that is actually exactly how I'm feeling. Thanks for the empathy :)

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by Raiden » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:37 pm

Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by BrokenMouse » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:25 am

Raiden wrote:Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?
This has been discussed many times. Bar examiners don't really have a strict grading criteria. Same essay can net 60 or 75... like it did in my case July 2015. To a large extent it depends on who you get that day and how that bar grader feels.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by lakers3peat » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:47 pm

Raiden wrote:Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?
I cannot tell right now whether my essays are passing or not. I am spotting most of the issues and analyzing the facts decently but when I compare to the published answer or the answer in barbri, i lose confidence.. They articulate themselves much better and their essays flow naturally.. Sometimes my essays flow logically but other times I feel like I am lost...

I have been thinking about baressay but I am so broke and have spent so much money already on various materials.... Is it worth it??? I feel like seeing some other 65-70 answers will put some things in perspective. Does anyone have some samples they can share??

Thanks and good luck to all

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by lakers3peat » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:48 pm

Raiden wrote:Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?
I cannot tell right now whether my essays are passing or not. I am spotting most of the issues and analyzing the facts decently but when I compare to the published answer or the answer in barbri, i lose confidence.. They articulate themselves much better and their essays flow naturally.. Sometimes my essays flow logically but other times I feel like I am lost...

I have been thinking about baressay but I am so broke and have spent so much money already on various materials.... Is it worth it??? I feel like seeing some other 65-70 answers will put some things in perspective. Does anyone have some samples they can share??

Thanks and good luck to all

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:49 pm

lakers3peat wrote:
Raiden wrote:Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?
I cannot tell right now whether my essays are passing or not. I am spotting most of the issues and analyzing the facts decently but when I compare to the published answer or the answer in barbri, i lose confidence.. They articulate themselves much better and their essays flow naturally.. Sometimes my essays flow logically but other times I feel like I am lost...

I have been thinking about baressay but I am so broke and have spent so much money already on various materials.... Is it worth it??? I feel like seeing some other 65-70 answers will put some things in perspective. Does anyone have some samples they can share??

Thanks and good luck to all

I think the premium Baressays membership is worth it. Not really for the essay feedback, but because of their essay templates and their own unique model answers. If you do sign up for Baressays.com, go for the premium. I know money can be hard though, and two weeks might not be enough time to start Baressays fresh.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:51 pm

lakers3peat wrote:
Raiden wrote:Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?
I cannot tell right now whether my essays are passing or not. I am spotting most of the issues and analyzing the facts decently but when I compare to the published answer or the answer in barbri, i lose confidence.. They articulate themselves much better and their essays flow naturally.. Sometimes my essays flow logically but other times I feel like I am lost...

I have been thinking about baressay but I am so broke and have spent so much money already on various materials.... Is it worth it??? I feel like seeing some other 65-70 answers will put some things in perspective. Does anyone have some samples they can share??

Thanks and good luck to all

BTW are you a Mac Dre fan?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:39 am

I was reviewing Community Property today. and I noticed two things.

1. Marriage of Lucas / Anti-Lucas statute is not covered in Barbri's CMR. Is this not something to be overly concerned about?

2. Marriage of Hum/Nelson formulas are also not covered. There's just a quick blurb about stock options in the CMR.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by RoseBuddy » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:42 am

lakers3peat wrote:
Raiden wrote:Looking at July 2011, Professional Responsibility essay on bar essay, the 65 that is posted really seems on par with the 75 and 72.5 posted. I'd even say the 65 has better organization, while those 70's just have headers and no separate paragraphs between fact and law. That just seems odd. Anyone else agree?
I cannot tell right now whether my essays are passing or not. I am spotting most of the issues and analyzing the facts decently but when I compare to the published answer or the answer in barbri, i lose confidence.. They articulate themselves much better and their essays flow naturally.. Sometimes my essays flow logically but other times I feel like I am lost...

I have been thinking about baressay but I am so broke and have spent so much money already on various materials.... Is it worth it??? I feel like seeing some other 65-70 answers will put some things in perspective. Does anyone have some samples they can share??

Thanks and good luck to all
First, nice Mac Dre pic. Second, sometimes I'll google the first few sentences of an essay if I'm really stuck to see if any answers/outlines pop up. Not always on point, but sometimes I'll find something that helps. Not sure if this is what you're looking for, though.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by AMCD » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:06 am

6TimeFailure wrote:I was reviewing Community Property today. and I noticed two things.

1. Marriage of Lucas / Anti-Lucas statute is not covered in Barbri's CMR. Is this not something to be overly concerned about?

2. Marriage of Hum/Nelson formulas are also not covered. There's just a quick blurb about stock options in the CMR.

thoughts?
These are rather important, but they beat this horse to death (Nelson, stocks etc) in July somewhat, but the Lucas/Anti-Lucas you definitely should have at your fingertips on test day.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:02 pm

AMCD wrote: These are rather important, but they beat this horse to death (Nelson, stocks etc) in July somewhat, but the Lucas/Anti-Lucas you definitely should have at your fingertips on test day.

Yeah that's what I suspected thanks.

When is examsoft going to be released for download BTW? Anyone know?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by Zaizei » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:24 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:
AMCD wrote: These are rather important, but they beat this horse to death (Nelson, stocks etc) in July somewhat, but the Lucas/Anti-Lucas you definitely should have at your fingertips on test day.

Yeah that's what I suspected thanks.

When is examsoft going to be released for download BTW? Anyone know?
As far as I know it has several weeks ago.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:29 pm

Zaizei wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
AMCD wrote: These are rather important, but they beat this horse to death (Nelson, stocks etc) in July somewhat, but the Lucas/Anti-Lucas you definitely should have at your fingertips on test day.

Yeah that's what I suspected thanks.

When is examsoft going to be released for download BTW? Anyone know?
As far as I know it has several weeks ago.

WOAH! i NEVER GOT ANY EMAIL!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by Zaizei » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:59 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:
Zaizei wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
AMCD wrote: These are rather important, but they beat this horse to death (Nelson, stocks etc) in July somewhat, but the Lucas/Anti-Lucas you definitely should have at your fingertips on test day.

Yeah that's what I suspected thanks.

When is examsoft going to be released for download BTW? Anyone know?
As far as I know it has several weeks ago.

WOAH! i NEVER GOT ANY EMAIL!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Didn't you get an email saying that you could print your admittance ticket?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by Metal_Inquisition » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:32 pm

Zaizei wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
Zaizei wrote:
6TimeFailure wrote:
AMCD wrote: These are rather important, but they beat this horse to death (Nelson, stocks etc) in July somewhat, but the Lucas/Anti-Lucas you definitely should have at your fingertips on test day.

Yeah that's what I suspected thanks.

When is examsoft going to be released for download BTW? Anyone know?
As far as I know it has several weeks ago.

WOAH! i NEVER GOT ANY EMAIL!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Didn't you get an email saying that you could print your admittance ticket?
So I was looking through my e-mails and I got hella notices last time about Examsoft but I didn't get any this time. Anyway if you find your admittance ticket, click on the laptop bulletin where eventually you should find this link:

https://ei.examsoft.com/GKWeb/login/calbar

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:44 pm

Zaizei wrote: Didn't you get an email saying that you could print your admittance ticket?

No, the only email I ever got from the bar was from last November confirming that I registered for the exam. I just checked the bar website, and I am indeed registered to take the test, and my admittance ticket is ready. I wonder why I never got any emails?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:53 pm

Metal_Inquisition wrote: So I was looking through my e-mails and I got hella notices last time about Examsoft but I didn't get any this time. Anyway if you find your admittance ticket, click on the laptop bulletin where eventually you should find this link:

https://ei.examsoft.com/GKWeb/login/calbar

thanks! :wink:

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:59 pm

SOMETHING IS SCREWED UP!!! I can't login into examsoft to download the software!! I am entering my file number as username and DOB as password, but it is not recognized. I checked again on my admittance ticket and it confirms I am registered to take the laptop exam AARG!!!

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by MrMustache » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:33 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:SOMETHING IS SCREWED UP!!! I can't login into examsoft to download the software!! I am entering my file number as username and DOB as password, but it is not recognized. I checked again on my admittance ticket and it confirms I am registered to take the laptop exam AARG!!!
You are using your Registration File #, and not Applicant Number, right?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:49 pm

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6TimeFailure wrote:SOMETHING IS SCREWED UP!!! I can't login into examsoft to download the software!! I am entering my file number as username and DOB as password, but it is not recognized. I checked again on my admittance ticket and it confirms I am registered to take the laptop exam AARG!!!
You are using your Registration File #, and not Applicant Number, right?
Yes...I tried both just in case...nada. I was on hold with their support line for 15 minutes, had to hang up. Just sent them an email. Now I am stressed.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:13 pm

No one's at exam soft to handle support issues. It's been an hour since I emailed and tried to call them. Nothing. If they don't respond within 24 hours, I am going to contact the bar.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by Zaizei » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:19 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:No one's at exam soft to handle support issues. It's been an hour since I emailed and tried to call them. Nothing. If they don't respond within 24 hours, I am going to contact the bar.
OMG I'm so sorry... Usually they have a live chat with someone that can help you with these kind of problems. Maybe you didn't get the email because it was marked as spam?

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by MrMustache » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:16 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:No one's at exam soft to handle support issues. It's been an hour since I emailed and tried to call them. Nothing. If they don't respond within 24 hours, I am going to contact the bar.
Fuck this so hard. I'm sorry you have to deal with this crap now of all times. Hope it gets resolved soon.

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Re: February 2016 California Bar Exam

Post by rcharter1978 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:53 pm

6TimeFailure wrote:No one's at exam soft to handle support issues. It's been an hour since I emailed and tried to call them. Nothing. If they don't respond within 24 hours, I am going to contact the bar.
There are a million things to worry about, this is not one I would spend a moments time worrying about. No way to they just screw you on downloading Examsoft, someone will get back to you. If you're really worried, contact the bar now and just get it over with. Its like 2pm and they actually seem helpful (unwillingly helpful...but helpful)

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