February 2015 Bar Exam Forum

[redblueyellow]

Here's the spreadsheet I mentioned a few days ago, if anyone wants it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7v5ebirpco4rx ... .xlsx?dl=0

Thanks! Are you trying to memorize these verbatim or just enough to know the underlined portions?

[Holly Golightly]

Here's the spreadsheet I mentioned a few days ago, if anyone wants it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7v5ebirpco4rx ... .xlsx?dl=0

Thanks! Are you trying to memorize these verbatim or just enough to know the underlined portions?

I don't do the whole verbatim memorization thing, I just review the rules once a day to try to remember some of the more nitpicky stuff I've been having trouble remembering.

[redblueyellow]

Here's the spreadsheet I mentioned a few days ago, if anyone wants it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7v5ebirpco4rx ... .xlsx?dl=0

Thanks! Are you trying to memorize these verbatim or just enough to know the underlined portions?

I don't do the whole verbatim memorization thing, I just review the rules once a day to try to remember some of the more nitpicky stuff I've been having trouble remembering.

thanks!

[nvbar2015]

Here's the spreadsheet I mentioned a few days ago, if anyone wants it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7v5ebirpco4rx ... .xlsx?dl=0

Thanks! Are you trying to memorize these verbatim or just enough to know the underlined portions?

I don't do the whole verbatim memorization thing, I just review the rules once a day to try to remember some of the more nitpicky stuff I've been having trouble remembering.

You do this for every subject?

[Holly Golightly]

Just MBE. I'm not even really trying to learn essay topics.

[Holly Golightly]

Did any other jurisdictions send out emails regarding the number of times per day you're allowed to pee, or was that just WV?

[redblueyellow]

Did any other jurisdictions send out emails regarding the number of times per day you're allowed to pee, or was that just WV?

"I'm sorry, miss, you've already went to the restroom two times during this period. The state of WV does not allow you to pee more than than during any three hour period. Please put your hand down and continue working."


WTF?

[Holly Golightly]

We're only allowed to pee once per session. Not kidding.

[numbertwo88]

We're only allowed to pee once per session. Not kidding.

I remember seeing so many of the same people going to pee. Maybe every hour.

Is there a rationale behind it? Are the restrooms not located in the test room or something? Or are they just being ridiculous?

[Holly Golightly]

They're blaming the NCBE.

The West Virginia Board of Law Examiners has instituted a change in policy regarding bathroom/water breaks during the bar exam. In accordance with the test security recommendations of the National Conference of Bar Examiners, applicants will be permitted to leave the exam room for no more than one bathroom/water break per three-hour testing session (i.e., one break in the morning and one in the afternoon). Pursuant to longstanding policy, no additional test time will be granted for time spent on break. If you have a medical condition which would interfere with your ability to comply with this policy, contact our office by 5:00 PM EST Thursday, February 19, 2015

SO MUCH ANGER.

I'm going to call and talk to someone about pee for a very long time tomorrow.

[redblueyellow]

They're blaming the NCBE.

If you have a medical condition which would interfere with your ability to comply with this policy, contact our office by 5:00 PM EST Thursday, February 19, 2015

Is being human a medical condition?

This would absolutely wreck me. I plan on drinking a large amount of coffee prior to the examination and that makes you pee like no other on an empty stomach.

[Holly Golightly]

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[cooperlaserpup]

WTF what an absurd rule! I like bathroom trips just to move around and get a break when needed. Plus I tend to mindlessly sip water during tests. I'd be furious if this was restricted.

[cooperlaserpup]

Oh I'm seriously calling and asking for an exemption tomorrow. And whoever I talk to is going to get to hear about how I pee a lot.

Say you have your period. They can't prove otherwise, and the amount of discomfort if you tell them you have a heavy flow would be super amusing.

[Holly Golightly]

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[numbertwo88]

Oh I'm seriously calling and asking for an exemption tomorrow. And whoever I talk to is going to get to hear about how I pee a lot.

Say you have your period. They can't prove otherwise, and the amount of discomfort if you tell them you have a heavy flow would be super amusing.

I second the heavy flow. They absolutely could not force anyone to sit through that

[YibanRen]

So, someone explain to me. Is Fed Jur ever on the MEE? Why do I have to learn it? Conflicts hasn't been tested for years right? They axed Commercial Paper this year right?

So, there are really only seven MEE subjects: Agency, Wills, Trusts, Corporations, Secured Transactions, Family Law, and Partnerships? And, there is about a 50% chance that only two of these will be on the test instead of three? This isn't like California, where you get at least one cross over per test right?

So, My knowledge of the seven subjects will make up between 15% and 10% of my exam final grade? BSing will probably get me 50% of those points, and no one really gets more than 80% or so, so I'm really looking at my knowledge of MEE-only topics making up like 30% of my score on the portion of the section that is worth 10% - 15% of my grade. So, actually studying the MEE-specific topics is worth a variation of 3%-4.5% of my final grade, or approximately 10 or so MBE questions? The value of learning each topic is about the same as getting one-two more MBE questions right.

My knowledge of MBE subjects will make up between 65% and 70% of the test?

[minnbills]

Definitely glad I spent like 5 hours learning Commercial Paper.

[Holly Golightly]

I'm basically just reading the Glannon Guide and doing the multiple choice Qs in it to learn civ pro for the MBE...hope that is sufficient.

[cooperlaserpup]

Definitely glad I spent like 5 hours learning Commercial Paper.

before you freak out make sure your state has actually eliminated it. The whole MEE vs. state essays distinction is lost on me (and I already took and passed one bar) but I think each state can decide what they want to test individually. So maybe it wasn't a waste!

[minnbills]

Definitely glad I spent like 5 hours learning Commercial Paper.

before you freak out make sure your state has actually eliminated it. The whole MEE vs. state essays distinction is lost on me (and I already took and passed one bar) but I think each state can decide what they want to test individually. So maybe it wasn't a waste!

I just checked and it's not on there. Not sure how I missed that before. Oh well.

[cooperlaserpup]

Definitely glad I spent like 5 hours learning Commercial Paper.

before you freak out make sure your state has actually eliminated it. The whole MEE vs. state essays distinction is lost on me (and I already took and passed one bar) but I think each state can decide what they want to test individually. So maybe it wasn't a waste!

I just checked and it's not on there. Not sure how I missed that before. Oh well.

aw bummer. well commercial paper was on my first bar (with an abstract) and it totally blows. I made shit up. So maybe its a good thing

[minnbills]

Yeah I'd rather have one less subject to worry about for sure.

So I added up all my MBE questions from the past two weeks and across the whole I am hitting 52%, which I figure is not that bad considering Barbri's averages. It just seems I am WAY too streaky.

[Holly Golightly]

I hope Kaplan is as hard as Barbri apparently is. So fucked.

But since my caffeine has stopped working, now I need a Good Wife break.

[cooperlaserpup]

You know what I really really fucking hate? secured transactions. It feels like a simple topic that is made needlessly confusing and for whatever reason I just cannot wrap my BRAIN around it. I'm absolutely terrified of a secured transactions-heavy contracts questions.

Anyone have strategies for this?? So far my biggest moment of clarity was when I thought "oh....its like buying washer at sears." And then it got to automatic perfection and the moment passed.