BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam Forum

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37/50* on MPQ Set 6



*I have seen a handful of these questions from Emanuel's so my score is inflated

How have you seen them on Emanuel's? Are the MPQ sets real MBE questions?

[kyle010723]

37/50* on MPQ Set 6

*I have seen a handful of these questions from Emanuel's so my score is inflated

How have you seen them on Emanuel's? Are the MPQ sets real MBE questions?

Barbri's questions are a mix of made-up and real ones

[musicfor18]

Question for others doing questions on Adaptibar. I know that the program adapts to give you questions in your areas of weakness. Please tell me that this means the questions get harder as you go along. Over the last couple of days, I've been doing worse on them, although I did very well on the simulated MBE and the refresher. Am I losing it?

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37/50* on MPQ Set 6

*I have seen a handful of these questions from Emanuel's so my score is inflated

How have you seen them on Emanuel's? Are the MPQ sets real MBE questions?

Barbri's questions are a mix of made-up and real ones

Yikes. I thought they were all fake.

[smokeylarue]

Damn those sample Civpro questions released by the official people are way harder than any of the Barbri stuff. Testing ridiculously specific stuff.

[Kage3212]

Question for others doing questions on Adaptibar. I know that the program adapts to give you questions in your areas of weakness. Please tell me that this means the questions get harder as you go along. Over the last couple of days, I've been doing worse on them, although I did very well on the simulated MBE and the refresher. Am I losing it?

The only relative way to gauge the difficulty of the question is to look at the percentage of other students who have either gotten that specific question correct or incorrect.

[Good Guy Gaud]

37/50* on MPQ Set 6

*I have seen a handful of these questions from Emanuel's so my score is inflated

How have you seen them on Emanuel's? Are the MPQ sets real MBE questions?

Barbri's questions are a mix of made-up and real ones

Yikes. I thought they were all fake.

And FWIW there are some BarBri questions that are nearly identical in logic/answer (just different facts) as some Emanuel questions, too. Which can either mean (1) that the NCBE recycles questions and just switches the facts (eg., "Son/Daughter" to "Graduate/Freshman") or (2) some of BarBri's questions are "fake" but only to the extent that they've switched facts.

I hope that makes sense.

[kyle010723]

Damn those sample Civpro questions released by the official people are way harder than any of the Barbri stuff. Testing ridiculously specific stuff.

That's my thought on the released 21 question mixed set too... If that was anything like the real thing, umm... yea

[Good Guy Gaud]

MPQ Set 6 question:

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Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

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MPQ Set 6 question:

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Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

I don't remember the question, but that sounds right.

[Good Guy Gaud]

MPQ Set 6 question:

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Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

I don't remember the question, but that sounds right.

As long as that sounds right to someone else, I'm alright with that. I thought the Supremacy Clause would be more narrow (ie., only apply to laws)

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I hoped to get some studying in at work this week, but this freakin big thing came up at work and I have barely been able to fit in lunch.

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MPQ Set 6 question:

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Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

I don't remember the question, but that sounds right.

As long as that sounds right to someone else, I'm alright with that. I thought the Supremacy Clause would be more narrow (ie., only apply to laws)

Is this a federal statute conflicting with a state statute? I can't find my pdf of that mpq.

[Good Guy Gaud]

MPQ Set 6 question:

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Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

I don't remember the question, but that sounds right.

As long as that sounds right to someone else, I'm alright with that. I thought the Supremacy Clause would be more narrow (ie., only apply to laws)

I can't remember the question and I always tear them out of my book after I'm done with them (makes it easier to grade them). Is this a federal statute conflicting with a state statute?

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There's a bid for a federal contract that calls for manufacturing of machines that meet certain requirements. State statute requires that those same machines be manufactured to meet more stringent requirements. Answer says that the Supremacy Clause controls and contractor would be able to defend making a deal with the feds.

[franklyscarlet]

I can't seem to pull together even a semi decent con law essay. Jesus take the wheel.

[Good Guy Gaud]

I can't seem to pull together even a semi decent con law essay. Jesus take the wheel.

What areas are throwing you off? FWIW, "predictions" of the MEE this July seem to have con law being a 'maybe' lol

[Killingly]

I can't seem to pull together even a semi decent con law essay. Jesus take the wheel.

What areas are throwing you off? FWIW, "predictions" of the MEE this July seem to have con law being a 'maybe' lol

What are the predictions?

[kyle010723]

MPQ Set 6 question:

[+] Spoiler

Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

I don't remember the question, but that sounds right.

As long as that sounds right to someone else, I'm alright with that. I thought the Supremacy Clause would be more narrow (ie., only apply to laws)

Intergovernmental immunity is derived from the Supremacy Clause

[Good Guy Gaud]

I can't seem to pull together even a semi decent con law essay. Jesus take the wheel.

What areas are throwing you off? FWIW, "predictions" of the MEE this July seem to have con law being a 'maybe' lol

What are the predictions?

Obviously take this with a grain of salt, but my school's bar prep adviser person sent out her predictions for MEE subjects this year. She was almost 100% accurate last year:

These are merely predictions (guesses) and please take them as such. You should study and prepare for every MEE subject just in case they appear on one of the essays. But, during your final study days (hours), you should focus your MEE practice and studying on Corporations (LLC/Pship), Evidence, Trusts, Criminal Procedure, Civil Procedure (has been tested forever, but could be left off this summer now that Civ Pro is on the MBE), Conflicts/Family Law (together), and maybe Conlaw (not equal protection or takings) or Contracts. Based on past frequency, these subjects, or a combination thereof, will likely appear on the MEE this summer.

Especially interesting because they are almost exactly the same predictions as this guy's:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=248341

Edit: This is mainly relevant only to UBE states, less so for states that use some MEE questions, and obviously irrelevant for CA, TX, NY, etc.

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There's a bid for a federal contract that calls for manufacturing of machines that meet certain requirements. State statute requires that those same machines be manufactured to meet more stringent requirements. Answer says that the Supremacy Clause controls and contractor would be able to defend making a deal with the feds.

Oh yeah. I remember missing that one. I'm not sure I can explain it either.

[Outis Onoma]

When doing timed essays, is anyone else not spending anywhere close to 30 minutes per essay? My answers aren't horribly off from the models, but I'm not getting every nuanced element. I'm doing a furious 15-20 minutes of writing per essay, then editing them.

[Good Guy Gaud]

MPQ Set 6 question:

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Wait, am I getting this right: if a state statute conflicts with federal contract requirements, the federal contract prevails because of the Supremacy Clause? Q11

I don't remember the question, but that sounds right.

As long as that sounds right to someone else, I'm alright with that. I thought the Supremacy Clause would be more narrow (ie., only apply to laws)

Intergovernmental immunity is derived from the Supremacy Clause

I'm gonna take this and run with it

[Good Guy Gaud]

When doing timed essays, is anyone else not spending anywhere close to 30 minutes per essay? My answers aren't horribly off from the models, but I'm not getting every nuanced element. I'm doing a furious 15-20 minutes per essay, then editing them.

Yea, once I noticed it took me nowhere near 30 minutes I just started outlining essays and saving my time.

[Tiago Splitter]

When doing timed essays, is anyone else not spending anywhere close to 30 minutes per essay? My answers aren't horribly off from the models, but I'm not getting every nuanced element. I'm doing a furious 15-20 minutes per essay, then editing them.

Yea, once I noticed it took me nowhere near 30 minutes I just started outlining essays and saving my time.

I usually start writing it out and then start using shorthand along the way and am ready to look at the answer in 15-20 minutes. On the real thing I'm gonna make sure to barf out every piece of shit I can think of.

[Good Guy Gaud]

When doing timed essays, is anyone else not spending anywhere close to 30 minutes per essay? My answers aren't horribly off from the models, but I'm not getting every nuanced element. I'm doing a furious 15-20 minutes per essay, then editing them.

Yea, once I noticed it took me nowhere near 30 minutes I just started outlining essays and saving my time.

I usually start writing it out and then start using shorthand along the way and am ready to look at the answer in 15-20 minutes. On the real thing I'm gonna make sure to barf out every piece of shit I can think of.

OFS. Relevant or not, we've got 3 hours there (in UBE state, sorry bro, I know you're in CA) and nowhere else to be. Whoever is grading my exam should pass me just for effort.