BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2016 (UBE -NY) Forum

[mvp99]

Working on 200 adaptibar Qs today. Happy 4th of July everyone!

Took the 2008 adaptibar practice exam today. Does the current mbe resemble this pretty closely (minus civpro, obviously)? Got 72% on it, and am feeling alright at this point.

Where is this 2008 exam? I only see one 2009 OPE exam. What's your adaptibar average?

[KRose04]

So, I'm pretty pissed off after watching the Barbri video intro to the simulated MBE. I'm pissed about the fact that it's twice as hard as the actual bar. I don't believe in this whole "over-preparing" bullshit. I just want to be prepared for what I should actually expect. I'm thinking about staying home and doing a past exam (bought from the NCBE website) and seeing how I do on that, instead of going to Barbri's simulated MBE. Anyway, just wanted to get some opinions. Thanks

[WheatThins]

Working on 200 adaptibar Qs today. Happy 4th of July everyone!

Took the 2008 adaptibar practice exam today. Does the current mbe resemble this pretty closely (minus civpro, obviously)? Got 72% on it, and am feeling alright at this point.

What's your plan to mesh Barbri(I assume) and Adaptibar for the last few weeks?

Going to focus on taking practice exams, reviewing answers, and concentrating on the areas I'm screwing up. Seems like basically all there is to do at this point.

I've really slacked on the Essay portion, so I know I'll need to spend some time in the last week or two getting all that memorized.

[WheatThins]

Working on 200 adaptibar Qs today. Happy 4th of July everyone!

Took the 2008 adaptibar practice exam today. Does the current mbe resemble this pretty closely (minus civpro, obviously)? Got 72% on it, and am feeling alright at this point.

Where is this 2008 exam? I only see one 2009 OPE exam. What's your adaptibar average?

Very weird. I definitely took one that was 2008, but now when I go to the practice exam list I see 06, 09, 11, and 13. Not sure what's going on. Anyway, my adaptibar average is 71%, but I haven't done any civpro adapti questions.

[ellewoods123]

So, I'm pretty pissed off after watching the Barbri video intro to the simulated MBE. I'm pissed about the fact that it's twice as hard as the actual bar. I don't believe in this whole "over-preparing" bullshit. I just want to be prepared for what I should actually expect. I'm thinking about staying home and doing a past exam (bought from the NCBE website) and seeing how I do on that, instead of going to Barbri's simulated MBE. Anyway, just wanted to get some opinions. Thanks

I have similar feelings, especially because I don't want to score poorly and then mentally psych myself out and lose focus during these last few weeks. I wanted to just focus on Adaptibar and those exams as well but I'm worried I'll regret not taking Barbri's...ugh

[sublime]

Working on 200 adaptibar Qs today. Happy 4th of July everyone!

Took the 2008 adaptibar practice exam today. Does the current mbe resemble this pretty closely (minus civpro, obviously)? Got 72% on it, and am feeling alright at this point.

What's your plan to mesh Barbri(I assume) and Adaptibar for the last few weeks?

Going to focus on taking practice exams, reviewing answers, and concentrating on the areas I'm screwing up. Seems like basically all there is to do at this point.

I've really slacked on the Essay portion, so I know I'll need to spend some time in the last week or two getting all that memorized.

Yea, that's kind of what I was thinking too. Thanks.

Going to be a shitty three weeks.

[KRose04]

So, I'm pretty pissed off after watching the Barbri video intro to the simulated MBE. I'm pissed about the fact that it's twice as hard as the actual bar. I don't believe in this whole "over-preparing" bullshit. I just want to be prepared for what I should actually expect. I'm thinking about staying home and doing a past exam (bought from the NCBE website) and seeing how I do on that, instead of going to Barbri's simulated MBE. Anyway, just wanted to get some opinions. Thanks

I have similar feelings, especially because I don't want to score poorly and then mentally psych myself out and lose focus during these last few weeks. I wanted to just focus on Adaptibar and those exams as well but I'm worried I'll regret not taking Barbri's...ugh

Exactly. To me it's discouraging. I don't like consistently being given questions that are purposely made for you to fail half of them. Instead of motivating me to study harder, it just frustrates me.

[sublime]

God these AMP excercises are frustrating.

[KRose04]

God these AMP excercises are frustrating.

Lmao I HATE the amps. That's why I stopped doing them

[WahooLaw24]

I'll say that I didn't find the Barbri 200 question practice test to be nearly as hard as I expected, given the way they were hyping it up. I'd recommend giving it a go. From my understanding the really frustrating stuff is generally in question sets 5 and 6 (and from the few I've done, that is unfortunately very much the case ).

[KRose04]

Can someone explain #1 in set 3 of the civ pro questions? I'm confused about supplemental jurisdiction... Didn't the lecture say that it can't by used Plaintiffs? Along with not be used in diversity jurisdiction cases.. So why was the plaintiff able to use supplemental jurisdiction for that question?

[mvp99]

Can someone explain #1 in set 3 of the civ pro questions? I'm confused about supplemental jurisdiction... Didn't the lecture say that it can't by used Plaintiffs? Along with not be used in diversity jurisdiction cases.. So why was the plaintiff able to use supplemental jurisdiction for that question?

Here are the 2 rules (I think):

(1) If the claim is made by the ORIGINAL plaintiff against anyone made a party under 14, 19, 20 or 24 then you can't use supplemental jurisdiction to overcome lack of diversity BUT you can use to meet the jurisdictional amount.

Hypo 1: P of state A sues D1 of State B in a diversity case, D1 impleads FRCP 14 D2 of State A, D2 files a claim against P, P cannot counterclaim D2 (even though technically P should because it's supposed to be compulsory) using supplemental JX because it would be done to overcome lack of diversity between D2 and P (I read here on TLS this is all due to poor congressional drafting)

Hypo 2: P of state A sues D1 of State B in a diversity case, D1 impleads FRCP 14 D2 of State B, P can sue D2 for 50k because there is diversity and P can use supplemental jurisdiction to overcome insufficient amount (I don't know if I would put it this way but critical pass cards have it worded like that)

Note: This restriction does not apply to Ds or P2s unless P2 joins under Rule 19 or 24 then the rule below applies.
So if you see a fact pattern where P2 joins as a permissive party FRCP 20 then it can use supplemental jurisdiction. But not in R19, which you know requires complete diversity anyway. Also note that P1 wouldn't be able to sue P2 because it's a party joined under R20 (see rule 1 above) unless there is diversity between P1 and P2.

(2) The claim is made by someone made a party under 19 required parties (remember that the required party must be joined if it doesn't destroy diversity?) or 24 intervening parties.

LMAO barbri

edit: Here's the relevant statute 1367(b):

(b) In any civil action of which the district courts have original jurisdiction founded solely on section 1332 of this title, the district courts shall not have supplemental jurisdiction under subsection (a) over claims by plaintiffs against persons made parties under Rule 14, 19, 20, or 24 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, or over claims by persons proposed to be joined as plaintiffs under Rule 19 of such rules, or seeking to intervene as plaintiffs under Rule 24 of such rules, when exercising supplemental jurisdiction over such claims would be inconsistent with the jurisdictional requirements of section 1332.

Here's someone attempting to explain it: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... p?t=114354

[MCFC]

Anyone know the goal (in terms of number correct) for the 50 questions we are supposed to do today?

[mvp99]

Anyone know the goal (in terms of number correct) for the 50 questions we are supposed to do today?

Based on what we need to auto-pass, I think 35.

[hellojd]

For someone entering this Adaptibar discussion late, what is it good for exactly in addition to Barbri? Would you guys recommend for the final 3 week stretch?

[fauxpsych]

So no MPQ percentiles for 6/27 -7/3 because of Independence Day? Well that's bullshit.

[LionelHutzJD]

Anyone know the goal (in terms of number correct) for the 50 questions we are supposed to do today?

33/50

[jj252525]

So no MPQ percentiles for 6/27 -7/3 because of Independence Day? Well that's bullshit.

Yeah I'm pretty unimpressed as well. Figured they'd go up today, but nothing yet.

[MyNameIsFlynn!]

For someone entering this Adaptibar discussion late, what is it good for exactly in addition to Barbri? Would you guys recommend for the final 3 week stretch?

I've just been doing 30ish questions a day from it and have found it pretty helpful to stay on top of subjects I covered weeks ago.

[mvp99]

41/50, 1 hour 17 minutes. Anyone find it easier than other Barbri sets?

[04815162342]

Hey everyone,

This is a kind of depressing post, so I apologize in advance, but I'm freaking out and figured it would be good to get advice from other people right now. My grandma passed away on Sunday, and I'm a complete mess (I was extremely close to her). She'd been sick for months and I'd been visiting her every day while doing bar prep, so I already wasn't exactly where I wanted to be progress-wise. Her funeral is tomorrow, when the simulated MBE is. I had wanted to take the test at Javitts, but now I'm planning on just taking it at the library maybe on Friday or Saturday when I'm more emotionally prepared. My school also signed us up for the Kaplan PMBR, so I can take their full length MBE at Fordham on July 16.

I guess I'm just freaking out now because I didn't done anything Sunday or Monday, I probably won't really be able to do anything on Wednesday, and I feel like I just want to give up. I always hear people say that when people fail the bar, it's because of something like this happening in their life during bar prep, so I'm just really worried right now.

Do you guys think it's okay to take the MBE a few days later? I'm taking the bar at Saratoga (figured it would be a little less stressful than Javitts), so I'm hoping that doing the Kaplan test at Fordham might be a kind of similar experience. Has anyone gone through something similar, or heard about people going through similar things and still passing the exam after missing so much so close to the test?

Thank you so much.

[mvp99]

Hey everyone,

This is a kind of depressing post, so I apologize in advance, but I'm freaking out and figured it would be good to get advice from other people right now. My grandma passed away on Sunday, and I'm a complete mess (I was extremely close to her). She'd been sick for months and I'd been visiting her every day while doing bar prep, so I already wasn't exactly where I wanted to be progress-wise. Her funeral is tomorrow, when the simulated MBE is. I had wanted to take the test at Javitts, but now I'm planning on just taking it at the library maybe on Friday or Saturday when I'm more emotionally prepared. My school also signed us up for the Kaplan PMBR, so I can take their full length MBE at Fordham on July 16.

I guess I'm just freaking out now because I didn't done anything Sunday or Monday, I probably won't really be able to do anything on Wednesday, and I feel like I just want to give up. I always hear people say that when people fail the bar, it's because of something like this happening in their life during bar prep, so I'm just really worried right now.

Do you guys think it's okay to take the MBE a few days later? I'm taking the bar at Saratoga (figured it would be a little less stressful than Javitts), so I'm hoping that doing the Kaplan test at Fordham might be a kind of similar experience. Has anyone gone through something similar, or heard about people going through similar things and still passing the exam after missing so much so close to the test?

Thank you so much.

My condolences. You should take whatever time is necessary but I think you could take 2-3 days off and still pass the bar exam. I wouldn't miss my grandma's funeral for 4-6 hours of study.

[Itwasluck]

41/50, 1 hour 17 minutes. Anyone find it easier than other Barbri sets?

Same score, almost the same time. I found it to be a lot easier than the sets. A few of the questions I got wrong were stupid mistakes from not reading closely enough too. I also managed to get 4 property questions wrong lol. I'm guessing tomorrow will be a lot more difficult but who knows at this point

[04815162342]

Hey everyone,

This is a kind of depressing post, so I apologize in advance, but I'm freaking out and figured it would be good to get advice from other people right now. My grandma passed away on Sunday, and I'm a complete mess (I was extremely close to her). She'd been sick for months and I'd been visiting her every day while doing bar prep, so I already wasn't exactly where I wanted to be progress-wise. Her funeral is tomorrow, when the simulated MBE is. I had wanted to take the test at Javitts, but now I'm planning on just taking it at the library maybe on Friday or Saturday when I'm more emotionally prepared. My school also signed us up for the Kaplan PMBR, so I can take their full length MBE at Fordham on July 16.

I guess I'm just freaking out now because I didn't done anything Sunday or Monday, I probably won't really be able to do anything on Wednesday, and I feel like I just want to give up. I always hear people say that when people fail the bar, it's because of something like this happening in their life during bar prep, so I'm just really worried right now.

Do you guys think it's okay to take the MBE a few days later? I'm taking the bar at Saratoga (figured it would be a little less stressful than Javitts), so I'm hoping that doing the Kaplan test at Fordham might be a kind of similar experience. Has anyone gone through something similar, or heard about people going through similar things and still passing the exam after missing so much so close to the test?

Thank you so much.

My condolences. You should take whatever time is necessary but I think you could take 2-3 days off and still pass the bar exam. I wouldn't miss my grandma's funeral for 4-6 hours of study.

Thank you. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't miss the funeral, I'm just worried about all the extra time I'm missing. I hadn't taken any days off before Sunday though, so hopefully I won't fall too far behind. Thanks again

[KRose04]

Hey everyone,

This is a kind of depressing post, so I apologize in advance, but I'm freaking out and figured it would be good to get advice from other people right now. My grandma passed away on Sunday, and I'm a complete mess (I was extremely close to her). She'd been sick for months and I'd been visiting her every day while doing bar prep, so I already wasn't exactly where I wanted to be progress-wise. Her funeral is tomorrow, when the simulated MBE is. I had wanted to take the test at Javitts, but now I'm planning on just taking it at the library maybe on Friday or Saturday when I'm more emotionally prepared. My school also signed us up for the Kaplan PMBR, so I can take their full length MBE at Fordham on July 16.

I guess I'm just freaking out now because I didn't done anything Sunday or Monday, I probably won't really be able to do anything on Wednesday, and I feel like I just want to give up. I always hear people say that when people fail the bar, it's because of something like this happening in their life during bar prep, so I'm just really worried right now.

Do you guys think it's okay to take the MBE a few days later? I'm taking the bar at Saratoga (figured it would be a little less stressful than Javitts), so I'm hoping that doing the Kaplan test at Fordham might be a kind of similar experience. Has anyone gone through something similar, or heard about people going through similar things and still passing the exam after missing so much so close to the test?

Thank you so much.

My condolences. You should take whatever time is necessary but I think you could take 2-3 days off and still pass the bar exam. I wouldn't miss my grandma's funeral for 4-6 hours of study.

I agree. You won't retain anything if you try studying anyway. Definitely take a few days to yourself. I'm probably not going to the MBE, and it's not because of anything like what you're going through. At this point, we all know what these exams are like. Lots of scared people, and a pain in the ass wait while everyone is signed in. It's really nothing we haven't gone through before. That's why I don't think I'm going. I don't want to go through this torture more than is necessary. Best of luck to you, and I'm very sorry for your loss. I know how hard it is to lose a loved one at a time like this. I had a loss in February, and again in march, and I know how hard it is to stay focused. But, I ended up getting my best grade on an exam during that time, so it is possible you will be okay, but just take the time you need. Again, best of luck