NY Bar Feb Exam: Support Group Forum

[iwantmybar]

From what I've seen, the exam results are released on either a Tuesday or a Thursday. So the 19th, 21st, 26th, or 28th at midnight.

2 out of the past 4 Feb results came out on either a Monday (Last year) or Wednesday... I think we're all getting a little too far into the weeds here. I'm just accepting it's going to be late April or Early May and call it a day.

I honestly think it is going to be released between the 25th and the 29th.

Good thing is that if we fail, we'll still be able to tell that we failed the LAST real NY bar exam. It is still something.

[d_sat]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

[d_sat]

^ bump.

[Barslammer]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

[z0rk]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

My memory is so blurred on these essays, can someone remind me of the context of the commercial lease issue. Was this packed in with the divorce prompt? What were the facts and issues if you can recall at all?

[1styearlateral]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

My memory is so blurred on these essays, can someone remind me of the context of the commercial lease issue. Was this packed in with the divorce prompt? What were the facts and issues if you can recall at all?

Pretty much the issues I remember from Essay No. 1:

• Warranty of Habitability not applying to commercial leases/known pre-lease conditions.
• Landlord's responsibility/liability over common areas.
• Pre-marital property.
• Property appreciation due to spousal contribution on pre-martial property during/after marriage.

There were, of course, many more issues, although I cannot recall them at this time. I do, however, believe that I dominated this essay because I work in NYC real estate law now and I remember there being am emphasis on landlord-tenant/real property law in this essay (in addition to family law). Hopefully I was able to pick up a couple extra points due to my above-average knowledge of the specific area of law. A great way to start the exam, IMO.

[z0rk]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

My memory is so blurred on these essays, can someone remind me of the context of the commercial lease issue. Was this packed in with the divorce prompt? What were the facts and issues if you can recall at all?

Pretty much the issues I remember from Essay No. 1:

• Warranty of Habitability not applying to commercial leases/known pre-lease conditions.
• Landlord's responsibility/liability over common areas.
• Pre-marital property.
• Property appreciation due to spousal contribution on pre-martial property during/after marriage.

There were, of course, many more issues, although I cannot recall them at this time. I do, however, believe that I dominated this essay because I work in NYC real estate law now and I remember there being am emphasis on landlord-tenant/real property law in this essay (in addition to family law). Hopefully I was able to pick up a couple extra points due to my above-average knowledge of the specific area of law. A great way to start the exam, IMO.

Ok, was this in the context of commercial property owned or leased by a spouse? I am honestly trying to remember the facts here. Moreover, and I could be blurring this memory with different essays I took so please do not be alarmed, but was there an issue with cancellation and renewal of the lease? The tenant wanted to terminate, but failed to give adequate notice before the term was up and thus the tenancy continued? I could totally be mixing this up with a different essay from practice exams. I cant tell you what I ate for breakfast a week ago much less the specific facts of the exam, so this may be a futile effort.

[iwantmybar]

@Zork

There was indeed a sub issue about the tenant who wanted to terminate but somehow didnt give notice or something. I vaguely remember but I think I answered something along the lines that there was an automatic renawal or something. I honestly don't really remember but there was this issue yes.

Also, I failed last July and I remember there was an essay where I though I would get a 30'ish and got a 55. It does not mean however that all of your essays will get a 55, I still had an essay that was graded 35 or sth because I missed many issues but still.

Honestly, english is not my primary language, last July I missed many issues, my english was very approximative at the end because i was on a rush and my essays were still above average overall (except for the MPT where I got 28...)

You guys should worry about the MBE which is, in my opinion, the real thing which determines if you'll pass or not.

Good luck, probably only ten more days from now on.

[d_sat]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

Thank you all for the replies. I do vaguely remember something about the lease cancellation and writing about establishing a periodic tenancy over the original terms of the lease (or something to that effect).

[d_sat]

@Zork

There was indeed a sub issue about the tenant who wanted to terminate but somehow didnt give notice or something. I vaguely remember but I think I answered something along the lines that there was an automatic renawal or something. I honestly don't really remember but there was this issue yes.

Also, I failed last July and I remember there was an essay where I though I would get a 30'ish and got a 55. It does not mean however that all of your essays will get a 55, I still had an essay that was graded 35 or sth because I missed many issues but still.

Honestly, english is not my primary language, last July I missed many issues, my english was very approximative at the end because i was on a rush and my essays were still above average overall (except for the MPT where I got 28...)

You guys should worry about the MBE which is, in my opinion, the real thing which determines if you'll pass or not.

Good luck, probably only ten more days from now on.

Thanks for the insight. The essays are what murdered me last July. I failed July 201 and I had a 133 scaled MBE, which by it itself is not stellar, but enough to get by on. However, my essay scores were incredibly underwhelming in July. I'm really hoping for a different result this time around.

[1styearlateral]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

My memory is so blurred on these essays, can someone remind me of the context of the commercial lease issue. Was this packed in with the divorce prompt? What were the facts and issues if you can recall at all?

Pretty much the issues I remember from Essay No. 1:

• Warranty of Habitability not applying to commercial leases/known pre-lease conditions.
• Landlord's responsibility/liability over common areas.
• Pre-marital property.
• Property appreciation due to spousal contribution on pre-martial property during/after marriage.

There were, of course, many more issues, although I cannot recall them at this time. I do, however, believe that I dominated this essay because I work in NYC real estate law now and I remember there being am emphasis on landlord-tenant/real property law in this essay (in addition to family law). Hopefully I was able to pick up a couple extra points due to my above-average knowledge of the specific area of law. A great way to start the exam, IMO.

Ok, was this in the context of commercial property owned or leased by a spouse? I am honestly trying to remember the facts here. Moreover, and I could be blurring this memory with different essays I took so please do not be alarmed, but was there an issue with cancellation and renewal of the lease? The tenant wanted to terminate, but failed to give adequate notice before the term was up and thus the tenancy continued? I could totally be mixing this up with a different essay from practice exams. I cant tell you what I ate for breakfast a week ago much less the specific facts of the exam, so this may be a futile effort.

The sub issue you're thinking of is a term of years lease turning into a month-to-month lease and the proper procedure for terminating a month-to-month (adequate notice).

[1styearlateral]

You guys should worry about the MBE which is, in my opinion, the real thing which determines if you'll pass or not.

Agreed.

[z0rk]

How badly do you think they will hit us if we miss a few issues on the essays? After reading some of the discussions on the essays here, I know for sure there are definitely some things I missed and didn't take the analysis all the way to a conclusion. For instance:

1. Commercial Leases - I did state that the warranty of habitability does not apply to commercial leases, but I honestly completely forgot (or just plain didnt know) the issue about a burst pipe making the space unusable and possibly being reason to break even a commercial lease.

2. First vs Third Degree Arson - definitely went with first degree because of the Barbri axiom "add an explosive device, add a degree" Didn't realize there needed to be knowledge of someone occupying the building for first degree. I could be misremembering (and overly hopeful) but I may have added some brief discussion that the def "knew or should have known" that someone "could" have been in the building.

3. Professional Services Corporation - totally dropped the ball and said that there would be no liability. Completely forgot that individual actors can be liable in Professional Services Corp for neglgience - that analysis I definitely didnt take all the way to its appropriate conclusion (which is super silly in retrospect b/c why the hell else would they ask it if they werent begging you to go into an analysis about it).

Cumulatively, where do you think essay scores without those answers would fall? Any input would be appreciated.

1. Possibly one (1) full point...

2. Minimal impact: half-point....

3. Definitely 1.5 - 2 Points...

Just guesstimates...

My memory is so blurred on these essays, can someone remind me of the context of the commercial lease issue. Was this packed in with the divorce prompt? What were the facts and issues if you can recall at all?

Pretty much the issues I remember from Essay No. 1:

• Warranty of Habitability not applying to commercial leases/known pre-lease conditions.
• Landlord's responsibility/liability over common areas.
• Pre-marital property.
• Property appreciation due to spousal contribution on pre-martial property during/after marriage.

There were, of course, many more issues, although I cannot recall them at this time. I do, however, believe that I dominated this essay because I work in NYC real estate law now and I remember there being am emphasis on landlord-tenant/real property law in this essay (in addition to family law). Hopefully I was able to pick up a couple extra points due to my above-average knowledge of the specific area of law. A great way to start the exam, IMO.

Ok, was this in the context of commercial property owned or leased by a spouse? I am honestly trying to remember the facts here. Moreover, and I could be blurring this memory with different essays I took so please do not be alarmed, but was there an issue with cancellation and renewal of the lease? The tenant wanted to terminate, but failed to give adequate notice before the term was up and thus the tenancy continued? I could totally be mixing this up with a different essay from practice exams. I cant tell you what I ate for breakfast a week ago much less the specific facts of the exam, so this may be a futile effort.

The sub issue you're thinking of is a term of years lease turning into a month-to-month lease and the proper procedure for terminating a month-to-month (adequate notice).

So what facts gave rise warranty of habitality issue that arose in the same essay prompt?

[d_sat]

So what facts gave rise warranty of habitality issue that arose in the same essay prompt?[/quote]


I believe there was something about a pipe burst and the space being unusable. The warranty of habitability (as far as I can remember) only applies to certain residential leases in New York, not commercial leases. There are some other caveats for commercial leases but I missed writing about those in my analysis.

[1styearlateral]

So what was the warranty of habitality issue that arose in the same facts?

If I am remembering correctly, a customer was injured when she slipped on water due to a burst pipe in the store's leased area. The question was whether the burst pipe was the responsibility of the landlord or the tenant and whether the landlord could be sued by the customer for negligence (IMO, no).

The warranty of habitability issue was raised by the commercial tenant in its terminating the lease (IMO, no). Briefly taken from my NY L&T Practice treatise: "Courts have consistently refused to extend the protections of the warranty of habitability to commercial tenants. While a commercial tenant may not raise a breach of the warranty of habitability as a defense to a non-payment proceeding, the tenant may allege a constructive eviction when all or part of the commercial premises are untenantable and have been abandoned." I do not remember anything in the fact pattern to suggest that was the case.

Of course, I could be remembering it wrong and/or inserting facts/issues from a practice exam I had previously taken.

[d_sat]

At least we are all in agreement that there was a pipe burst somewhere in that essay lol.

[iwantmybar]

So what facts gave rise warranty of habitality issue that arose in the same essay prompt?

I believe there was something about a pipe burst and the space being unusable. The warranty of habitability (as far as I can remember) only applies to certain residential leases in New York, not commercial leases. There are some other caveats for commercial leases but I missed writing about those in my analysis.[/quote]

I remember listing on this questions the following exceptions : short term dwelling, multiple dwelling, common areas, things fixed by the landlord but in the wrong way etc (there were 7 exceptions If I remember correctly). There was a question like that in a previous exam but I dunno if it is the same thing or not.

[d_sat]

So what is everyone's take on the scale for the February exam. Everyone says that it is more difficult to pass in February, but aside from the fact that some people may not perform well on this test (which is hardly an indication of anyone's intelligence or ability to practice law imo), why is the passage rate so low? And how does it a low passage rate affect the scale? I thought it would be beneficial to those who score well. However, according to this pdf: https://www.nybarexam.org/ExamStats/201 ... sRates.pdf - the pass rate for repeaters from ABA schools are significantly low. What is the phenomenon that is occurring in Feb that accounts for such a large disparity in the passage rate?

[Barslammer]

So what is everyone's take on the scale for the February exam. Everyone says that it is more difficult to pass in February, but aside from the fact that some people may not perform well on this test (which is hardly an indication of anyone's intelligence or ability to practice law imo), why is the passage rate so low? And how does it a low passage rate affect the scale? I thought it would be beneficial to those who score well. However, according to this pdf: https://www.nybarexam.org/ExamStats/201 ... sRates.pdf - the pass rate for repeaters from ABA schools are significantly low. What is the phenomenon that is occurring in Feb that accounts for such a large disparity in the passage rate?

A large population of Foreign educated test takers.

[rntojd]

So, I guess it's still too early to be distracted at work, checking email every 30 seconds, and twitching every time there's an email in my inbox? Damn this is torture. I was doing very well at pretending to forget that I took this exam until this past week.

[nyfailedjuly2015]

The sub issue you're thinking of is a term of years lease turning into a month-to-month lease and the proper procedure for terminating a month-to-month (adequate notice).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there's a further twist here:

By default, a residential holdover turns into a monthly periodic tenancy.
By default, a commercial holdover turns into a periodic tenancy with length identical to original lease (up to one year max).

So if you have a commercial tenant with a yearly lease that holds over, then the new period for the implied tenancy is 1 year (although payment may be monthly).

[z0rk]

So what is everyone's take on the scale for the February exam. Everyone says that it is more difficult to pass in February, but aside from the fact that some people may not perform well on this test (which is hardly an indication of anyone's intelligence or ability to practice law imo), why is the passage rate so low? And how does it a low passage rate affect the scale? I thought it would be beneficial to those who score well. However, according to this pdf: https://www.nybarexam.org/ExamStats/201 ... sRates.pdf - the pass rate for repeaters from ABA schools are significantly low. What is the phenomenon that is occurring in Feb that accounts for such a large disparity in the passage rate?

A large population of Foreign educated test takers.

The foreign educated test takers do not fall within the category of repeaters from ABA schools. According to the chart linked by D_Sat, 44% of all repeaters that graduated from an ABA accredited school passed the February 2015 bar. Foreign educated repeaters, which are accounted for in a separate category, had a 24% pass rate. Compare these numbers with 70% of all first time ABA test takers and 29% of all foreign educated test takers.. Seperac has a great statistical analysis of the NY Bar and what each category faces:

DISCLAIMER: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT! KEEP ON KEEPING ON WITH THE POSITIVE VIBES.

Essentially, law school GPA is the most determinative factor of bar passage - the higher the law school grade point average, the greater the likelihood an examinee will pass. I believe there is a strong correlation between law school performance and bar exam performance because good performance in both requires adaptation in learning. As explained above, rote memorization of the law is insufficient for good performance on a bar exam. The best example of this is the MBE, where you not only need to know the law, but also analyze equally plausible choices. Good exam performance stems from a continual process of improvement in learning.

Accordingly, this site is primarily intended for bar exam retakers as statistically, it becomes harder and harder to pass the New York bar exam with each attempt. . .

In looking at recent data, based on pass rates for the New York Bar Exam from 2012-2015, domestic-educated examinees taking the exam for the first time had an overall pass rate of 82% while foreign-educated examinees taking the exam for the first time had an overall pass rate of 42%. In regards to retakers, domestic-educated retakers had an overall pass rate of 40% while foreign-educated retakers had an overall pass rate of 23%. You can look at the Pass Rates section below to read more about this. As such, while the actual pass rates for retakers are not as low as the ones projected by NYBOLE, the pass rates for retakers are still very low.

After collecting scoring information from many failing examinees, I have found that it is not easy task for an examinee to escape their demographic. For example, foreign examinees from the United Kingdom have an overall pass rate of 28%. When I review scores from British examinees, I generally find that it takes them about 4 attempts before they pass the exam. What the demographics don't provide are the specific reasons as to why examinees fail the exam. I believe the main reason examinees fail the exam is because they simply do not put the amount of time into the exam that is required (in both study and practice). Often, examinees that fail the exam simply did not learn enough. If you only have a superficial knowledge of the information being tested on the exam, you probably won't pass the exam. The second biggest reason for failure is inefficient study and poor exam technique. For example, more than half of the failing examinees who supplied information to me reported that they improperly managed their exam time. If you fail to plan, plan to fail.

SOURCE: Seperac.com

Seperac has also compiled statistical analysis from self-reporting test takers over several years, and created this chart that parses out pass rates based upon demographic groups: http://www.seperac.com/downloads/Sepera ... 0order.pdf

[1styearlateral]

The sub issue you're thinking of is a term of years lease turning into a month-to-month lease and the proper procedure for terminating a month-to-month (adequate notice).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there's a further twist here:

By default, a residential holdover turns into a monthly periodic tenancy.
By default, a commercial holdover turns into a periodic tenancy with length identical to original lease (up to one year max).

So if you have a commercial tenant with a yearly lease that holds over, then the new period for the implied tenancy is 1 year (although payment may be monthly).

You're correct about the first part. The second part, possibly. I'm not entirely sure. However, I'm fairly certain that the month-to-month issue was raised in relation to a residential tenant in the apartment building the wife owned (not entirely sure though... but I'm pretty sure I would have remembered a month-to-month commercial tenant issue because it's so rare IRL).

[hopeful420]

Question - Can anyone else register for the July 2016 exam? This process is so draining.

[d_sat]

Question - Can anyone else register for the July 2016 exam? This process is so draining.

I also was able to register for the NY July 2016 UBE. I went all the way to the payment screen but did not continue. I hope this isnt an ominous sign.