Texas Saloon- Feb. 2016 Texas Bar Forum

[DueProcessDoWheelies]

Seriously asking again: Where do you park if there is no parking space? Across First Street at that Hooters or at Threadgill's? At Whataburger? What should be the go-to option?

I don't know whether this applies to the Bar but for big events, the Long Center/Parmer Events Center has an overflow parking garage across the street.

http://thelongcenter.org/visit/parking/

Thanks! Didn't know about this.

I just talked to an officer at the overflow garage and he said there will be no access during the bar exam.

Any other parking near the place?? I feel like I'm going to have to wake earlier than what i am supposed to.

Your best bet would probably be to park in a garage somewhere downtown and then walk from there, which would probably be about 15 minutes walking. Downside is it'll probably be expensive.

[longhornlaw]

Seriously asking again: Where do you park if there is no parking space? Across First Street at that Hooters or at Threadgill's? At Whataburger? What should be the go-to option?

I don't know whether this applies to the Bar but for big events, the Long Center/Parmer Events Center has an overflow parking garage across the street.

http://thelongcenter.org/visit/parking/

Thanks! Didn't know about this.

I just talked to an officer at the overflow garage and he said there will be no access during the bar exam.

Any other parking near the place?? I feel like I'm going to have to wake earlier than what i am supposed to.

Your best bet would probably be to park in a garage somewhere downtown and then walk from there, which would probably be about 15 minutes walking. Downside is it'll probably be expensive.

If you plan it right, you could park by one of those b-cycle stations and rent one of those for the day. Gives you a couple extra minutes.

When I get into town on Monday I'll check and see how much guest parking the place I'm staying has and if it's easily accessible. If so, I'll give y'all a heads up here.

[jamescastle]

Also, what's the best way to spend the last few days? I'm going to finish reviewing the Family Law and Community Property lecture notes and outline a few essay questions on these subjects today, and I think I've done one round of review of all subjects. What should I do during Saturday, Sunday and half of Monday (I'll need to drive 4 hours to Austin....)?

My current plan:
Saturday: review MBE subjects and do Barbri 100 refresher
Sunday: review Texas essay subjects, but do which essay questions? Recent years?
Monday: review notes

Does that sound reasonable? Anybody has any suggestions?

Thank you!

Saturday: Go over 50 MBE questions by reading the question finding the answer in my outlines (i.e. not timing myself like a standard 50 question MBE review); some MPT final review; maybe 2 essays in each topic.
Sunday: A little bit of MBE and a little bit of essays.
Monday morning: 5 or so years of the last P&E stuff in the morning (hopefully done with everything by noon). Then watch a movie or two and call it quits early and hope to sleep.

[BVest]

Seriously asking again: Where do you park if there is no parking space? Across First Street at that Hooters or at Threadgill's? At Whataburger? What should be the go-to option?

I don't know whether this applies to the Bar but for big events, the Long Center/Parmer Events Center has an overflow parking garage across the street.

http://thelongcenter.org/visit/parking/

Thanks! Didn't know about this.

I just talked to an officer at the overflow garage and he said there will be no access during the bar exam.

Any other parking near the place?? I feel like I'm going to have to wake earlier than what i am supposed to.

If you have to park elsewhere, I would suggest trying the Hyatt first, though at that hour in the morning I don't know if they'd be full of overnight guests or not. Their lot is like $25/day. Second attempt would be City Hall Parking Garage, which is just across the Lavaca/Guadalupe bridge from Palmer.

City hall parking garage:

https://www.austintexas.gov/cityhallparking
Walking directions


Hyatt:
Walking directions

[DueProcessDoWheelies]

I feel like I just can't study anymore. Like I've done everything I can do, for the most part.

Guess that's a good thing.

[murdock83]

I feel like I just can't study anymore. Like I've done everything I can do, for the most part.

Guess that's a good thing.

I'm definitely feeling that. I was feeling run down so I just rested today. Traveling tomorrow and crashing at a family member's, then making the short drive over to Austin on Monday to settle in. I figure at this point the best thing to do is go into the exam rested and fresh instead of exhausted. Will probably study a bit tomorrow afternoon and most of the day Sunday.

Thanks to everyone for all the great pointers. Good luck everyone and safe travels to Austin!

[vandyclark]

Does anyone have a Corporations outline they want to share?!? I may have other subjects I can share as well... I'm doing BarBri & somehow missed this lecture & I'm completely freaked out! I thought I'd caught up on everything!!!

How the hell does anyone pass this thing? I don't feel like anything is sticking in my brain...

Corporations outline: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5_XVm ... sp=sharing

THANK YOU

[vandyclark]

Not sure if this helps anyone- but I was looking over the subjects tested since Summer 2012, and for the February exams at least it appears they have a guardianship question every other exam. Since last Feb exam contained one, it's not as likely we will get that subject.

That sucks for me since I used to do guardianships & it would be an easy, high point question! Oh well... I'll keep focusing on the business & UCC crap!

Also, it does look like they have Oil & Gas as at least a subpart in each exam. I think I'd been told (who knows where at this point!!) that O&G wasn't likely & not to worry too much. I'll at least review it! 3 days...

[DueProcessDoWheelies]

Not sure if this helps anyone- but I was looking over the subjects tested since Summer 2012, and for the February exams at least it appears they have a guardianship question every other exam. Since last Feb exam contained one, it's not as likely we will get that subject.

That sucks for me since I used to do guardianships & it would be an easy, high point question! Oh well... I'll keep focusing on the business & UCC crap!

Also, it does look like they have Oil & Gas as at least a subpart in each exam. I think I'd been told (who knows where at this point!!) that O&G wasn't likely & not to worry too much. I'll at least review it! 3 days...

O&G is on pretty much every exam.

Trusts/Guardianship is unpredictable.

UCC is almost always commercial paper & secured. Ks questions are rare.

[longhornlaw]

Not sure if this helps anyone- but I was looking over the subjects tested since Summer 2012, and for the February exams at least it appears they have a guardianship question every other exam. Since last Feb exam contained one, it's not as likely we will get that subject.

That sucks for me since I used to do guardianships & it would be an easy, high point question! Oh well... I'll keep focusing on the business & UCC crap!

Also, it does look like they have Oil & Gas as at least a subpart in each exam. I think I'd been told (who knows where at this point!!) that O&G wasn't likely & not to worry too much. I'll at least review it! 3 days...

O&G is on pretty much every exam.

Trusts/Guardianship is unpredictable.

UCC is almost always commercial paper & secured. Ks questions are rare.

Rumor has it that there will be a family law question, or two, this time around as well.

[BVest]

UCC is almost always commercial paper & secured. Ks questions are rare.

Except in the last 3 years, where K was on half the exams.

[left shark]

UCC is almost always commercial paper & secured. Ks questions are rare.

Except in the last 3 years, where K was on half the exams.

But as we all know, the BLE has a long memory, and the last three years aren't necessarily an indication of where their minds are. So overall, rare.

[jamescastle]

Just realized that the trust requirements (at least what I have written down) are all Roman numerals... almost:

I: Intent to create a trust
I: Identifiable (trust property certain and identifiable; beneficiary certain and identifiable)
V: Valid trust purpose
LC: Legal capacity (settlor with legal capacity; trustee with legal capacity)
D: Delivery of trust assets
W: Writing

The M-->W is a switch but for the most part it works out. Dunno if y'all have something already memorized to help but I'm putting this in my notes to help me.
(I = 1; V = 5; L = 50; C = 100; D = 500; M = 1000 for the curious and confused.)

[longhornlaw]

Just realized that the trust requirements (at least what I have written down) are all Roman numerals... almost:

I: Intent to create a trust
I: Identifiable (trust property certain and identifiable; beneficiary certain and identifiable)
V: Valid trust purpose
LC: Legal capacity (settlor with legal capacity; trustee with legal capacity)
D: Delivery of trust assets
W: Writing

The M-->W is a switch but for the most part it works out. Dunno if y'all have something already memorized to help but I'm putting this in my notes to help me.
(I = 1; V = 5; L = 50; C = 100; D = 500; M = 1000 for the curious and confused.)

Nice.

A few more if anybody wants 'em.

Fed Class Action, Class Certification-
Nobody Can Touch Rihanna's Ass
Numerosity
Commonality
Typicality
Representative Adequate

Covenant to run with the land-
When In Paris Touch Nuns
Writing
Intent -Intent to bind successors
Privity- Vertical and Horizontal
Touch and Concern the Land
Notice

Equitable Servitudes
When in Texas Naked
Writing
Intent- to bind original parties
Touch and Concern
Notice

Unavailability Required
San Francisco Fire Department
Statements Against Interest
Former Testimony
Family
Dying Declaration

Unavailability Immaterial
PAPERS PBJ
Presence Sense Impression
Ancient Documents
Excited Utterance
Recorded Recollection
State of Mind (Present)
Public Record
Business Record
Judgement of Recent Conviction

Statements Offered For Their Trust/Admissions/Statements
I Eat Steak And Salmon
Independent Legal Significance
Effect of the Listener
State of Mind
Admissions
-Adoptive
-Vicarious
-Party Opponent
Statements
-Prior Inconsistent Statements
-Consistent Statements

Constitutional Limit to Long-Arm Statutes
My PArents Frequently Forget to Read Children Stories
Minimum Contacts
Purposeful Availment
Fairness
Foreseeability
Relatedness
Convenience
States Interest

Specific Performance
Very Cool Idea For Dads
Valid Contract
Conditions Precedent fulfilled
Inadequate Legal Remedy
Feasibility of Enforcement
Defenses

Lemon Test- Establishment Clause
SEX
Secular Purpose
primary Effect
eXcessive Entanglement

[longhornlaw]

This may be getting too deep into the weeds, but does anybody know if the bar examiners approve or disapprove of the use of "see rules above" when you're doing an essay where the same rules get used over and over?

[jamescastle]

This may be getting too deep into the weeds, but does anybody know if the bar examiners approve or disapprove of the use of "see rules above" when you're doing an essay where the same rules get used over and over?

I think something like "see the elements from answer (1) above" is better than just "see above." But lots of the BARBRI answers do something like that (for example: lots of the consumer law essays might have (1) Analyze against Party X; (2) Analyze against Party Y and in the answer to (2) they just reference with something like "as discussed in (1) previously" or "could use the same defenses as Party X used as written in (1) above").

[vandyclark]

Anyone have an opinion how deep should we ought to concern ourselves with tax & bankruptcy? At this point I'm trying to focus on the larger-tested subjects but maybe I should spend an hour going through the muck?

[jamescastle]

Anyone have an opinion how deep should we ought to concern ourselves with tax & bankruptcy? At this point I'm trying to focus on the larger-tested subjects but maybe I should spend an hour going through the muck?

Know what the automatic stay in bankruptcy is (tl;dr: once someone files for bankruptcy, no one can continue trying to get them to pay their debts, now creditors have to go through the bankruptcy process instead).
Know that tax stuff causes people to buy/sell/move around assets.

I'd say that's it. Neither have been tested since 2002 or something. And I'd think if you know the basics of tax you'll be fine. Really any tax issue for the essays is handled in the topics. For example, you learn about partnership/corporation taxing in that lecture; you learn some basic tax stuff in wills, trusts, estate administration, and guardianship as well as community property.

[BVest]

This may be getting too deep into the weeds, but does anybody know if the bar examiners approve or disapprove of the use of "see rules above" when you're doing an essay where the same rules get used over and over?

It's fine to do, but as said above, you can just say "as with X" when analyzing Y. Also, you can copy and paste if you're typing.

Anyone have an opinion how deep should we ought to concern ourselves with tax & bankruptcy? At this point I'm trying to focus on the larger-tested subjects but maybe I should spend an hour going through the muck?

Tax: not at all. (Caveat, just because they've never tested it doesn't mean they won't at some point.)

Bankruptcy: Know that there's an automatic stay. Know that a creditor can get the stay lifted by the bankruptcy court. That's about it.

[bluesplitter]

Ladies and Gentlemen of The Saloon.


Thank you for your moral and technical support this past three months.

I actually look forward to driving up to Austin tomorrow, and settle in.

Please do not forget:

1.Ticket
2. ID-valid, not expired
3. Laptop if needed, and chord.
3. Black Pen
4. Pencils
5. Cash, make sure you have cash,because you might need cash.
6. Good faith and Goodwill.


Relax. We are all gonna be ok.



Good luck to everyone!!

[mtyler19]

Tips for last minute P&E memorization for a repeater?

[vandyclark]

Curious how early people are planning to get to Palmer? I'm thinking I may leave my hotel around 7:30am- it should take 10-20 minutes (depending on traffic) to get to Palmer & I'm under the impression parking will be a nightmare? If that gets me parked by 8-8:10 & hopefully I'm not walking too far... Hmm...Maybe I should leave earlier!?!?! I'm going to assume checking in will also be a process? We have to be in our seats & ready to go by 8:30, right? Maybe a cab would be best, but we're not allowed phones. I don't need to be freaking out over this part right now!

[BVest]

For anyone who wants to take a cab but doesn't want to take their phone and leave it out in the hall during the exam, the best place to catch a cab without having to call one yourself is a full-service hotel. Just walk over to the Hyatt after the exam and have a bellman call you a cab (if there's not already one or two sitting out front). I used to office across the street from a Doubletree and anytime I needed a cab I'd just walk across the street. There was always one sitting there.

[DueProcessDoWheelies]

And that's a wrap! Bar study, part II has concluded for me. Now for a day and a half of rest, and then 3 days of shit!

[longhornlaw]

Head's up guys - looks like there will be a thunderstorm Tuesday morning. Plan accordingly if you're going to walk, and be prepared for the possibility of traffic and flooded streets if you're driving.