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How did the MBE go, compared to your expectation?

A lot easier than I expected.
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Somewhat easier than I expected.
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About how I expected.
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Somewhat harder than I expected.
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A lot harder than I expected.
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by History_Buff » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:52 pm

victortsoi wrote:
nucky thompson wrote:
moreheesh wrote:So when it comes to embezzlement, whats the correct way to measure the amount embezzled??

The amt initially converted

See I thought the total value, NY trusts has a similar concept. Lost opportunity...
Edit- I mean who gets the rest, certainly not the embezzler.
Well the breach of fiduciary duty would allow a recovery for that much, but charging under a criminal statute it's the amount initially converted.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by victortsoi » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:00 pm

History_Buff wrote:
victortsoi wrote:
nucky thompson wrote:
moreheesh wrote:So when it comes to embezzlement, whats the correct way to measure the amount embezzled??

The amt initially converted

See I thought the total value, NY trusts has a similar concept. Lost opportunity...
Edit- I mean who gets the rest, certainly not the embezzler.
Well the breach of fiduciary duty would allow a recovery for that much, but charging under a criminal statute it's the amount initially converted.

Oh well. Another one in the red column :(

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Arbinshire » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:03 pm

victortsoi wrote:Oh well. Another one in the red column :(
You've got room for about 63 in the red column.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by jaysnooginz » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:08 pm

victortsoi wrote:
History_Buff wrote:
victortsoi wrote:
nucky thompson wrote:
moreheesh wrote:So when it comes to embezzlement, whats the correct way to measure the amount embezzled??

The amt initially converted

See I thought the total value, NY trusts has a similar concept. Lost opportunity...
Edit- I mean who gets the rest, certainly not the embezzler.
Well the breach of fiduciary duty would allow a recovery for that much, but charging under a criminal statute it's the amount initially converted.

Oh well. Another one in the red column :(
If you think about this too much you will go crazy.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by moreheesh » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:16 pm

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by spacecaps » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:14 pm

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Post by nucky thompson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:31 pm

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by legal10101 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:51 pm

Arbinshire wrote:I heard there was a new subject question put up. So we're going to have Wills as a MBE subject next, eh?
Ok I'm not losing my mind.... Got that too

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by legal10101 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:52 pm

yurista wrote:
despina wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
despina wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote: 2-4 questions on very narrow areas of the law which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
...only 2-4? You're ahead of me then!
No I mean on the same exact issue.
Ah yes. There was one particular (civpro) rule that stood out to me as well. Saw two very similar questions on one narrow issue within the rule, and two more on that same civpro rule. Not sure I got any of them right. Hoping at least one or two were test-drive unscored questions since they're still rolling out the civpro questions...
I wish i remembered what it was on specifically, bc they def tested the same idea twice. I chose opposite answers figuring one would be right...
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by gmail » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:02 pm

After the MBE, I feel like sentencing the Barbri CEO to a term of imprisonment beyond the statutory maximum based on an aggravating factor. Unfortunately, if the jury doesn't make that finding BRD, that would violate his constitutional rights... right?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by odoylerulez » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:07 pm

gmail wrote:After the MBE, I feel like sentencing the Barbri CEO to a term of imprisonment beyond the statutory maximum based on an aggravating factor. Unfortunately, if the jury doesn't make that finding BRD, that would violate his constitutional rights... right?
That's what I said.

I also spent like 4 minutes on that question trying to reason it out. There was one nuance to that question that made me decide it was a constitutional issue.

(Assuming you're making a reference to a certain similar question.)

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by anon sequitur » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:08 pm

gmail wrote:After the MBE, I feel like sentencing the Barbri CEO to a term of imprisonment beyond the statutory maximum based on an aggravating factor. Unfortunately, if the jury doesn't make that finding BRD, that would violate his constitutional rights... right?
Yeah, you basically treat that as an extra element of the crime, which must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprendi_v._New_Jersey
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by starryski » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:11 pm

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by legal10101 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:18 pm

gmail wrote:I'm so mad I want to pull a chair out front under someone and commit, what I hope, is a battery.
Ditto

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by legal10101 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:31 pm

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by 3|ink » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:57 pm

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by somuchbooty » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:58 pm

Let's agree that all of us will call them daily for progress on grading until results are released in protest.

But seriously, why does it take 2 1/2 months to grade this shit? Scantrons take an hour.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by jaysnooginz » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:02 pm

somuchbooty wrote:Let's agree that all of us will call them daily for progress on grading until results are released in protest.

But seriously, why does it take 2 1/2 months to grade this shit? Scantrons take an hour.

In Alabama they told us not to call for results before September 24th on penalty of death.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by UVAIce » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:02 pm

Why would you be on notice for seeing private property signs on private property? I am not saying you are wrong, just that I grew up in a place where every property had these signs in the country. The sign would just let me know someone owns the land, not that it had been conveyed to another prior purchaser.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by UVAIce » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:08 pm

jaysnooginz wrote:
somuchbooty wrote:Let's agree that all of us will call them daily for progress on grading until results are released in protest.

But seriously, why does it take 2 1/2 months to grade this shit? Scantrons take an hour.

In Alabama they told us not to call for results before September 24th on penalty of death.
In Virginia our handwriting sample was a statement stating that we would not call the Virginia Board of Bar Examiners to ask about our scores.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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