BarBri Bar Review Hangout - July 2015 Exam Forum

[victortsoi]

Only if that Armadillo is from Texas!

with a spycam in sharon stone's shower.

[kyle010723]

with a spycam in sharon stone's shower.

Hahaha, oh Epstein.

[gretchenweiners]

question: is the MBE scaled nationally? or does each state apply its own scale just looking at the examinees in its state?

[kyle010723]

question: is the MBE scaled nationally? or does each state apply its own scale just looking at the examinees in its state?

Nationally, hence it is one giant blackbox that only NCBE knows how to scale.

[vulaw]

Do I just know nothing and am screwed, or was the first half of Barbri's Half-Day MBE a lot harder than the Mixed Question Sets?

[kyle010723]

Do I just know nothing and am screwed, or was the first half of Barbri's Half-Day MBE a lot harder than the Mixed Question Sets?

Half-Day is harder.

[Good Guy Gaud]

Does the evidence rule where you can state that the victim was the first aggressor only apply in homicide cases, or battery cases as well>

I think character evidence can be introduced by defendant in any criminal case. Doesn't the homicide case-only rule apply to dying declarations?

Can someone else provide input.

[kyle010723]

Does the evidence rule where you can state that the victim was the first aggressor only apply in homicide cases, or battery cases as well>

I think character evidence can be introduced by defendant in any criminal case. Doesn't the homicide case-only rule apply to dying declarations?

Can someone else provide input.

I would think you can use it in any case if it is relevant (and not otherwise excluded), especially in self-defense, in either civil or criminal.

[jacksonmead]

Wow, just now getting to the Commercial Paper essays after only reviewing the lecture. I could write maybe 25 words of nonsense in response to these. Almost every concept in the model answer is unaddressed by lecture. ugh.

[charlesxavier]

Does the evidence rule where you can state that the victim was the first aggressor only apply in homicide cases, or battery cases as well>

I think character evidence can be introduced by defendant in any criminal case. Doesn't the homicide case-only rule apply to dying declarations?

Can someone else provide input.

The defendant can introduce evidence that the victim was the first aggressor. The only homicide/self-defense rule I remember is:

If a D in a criminal case claims self defense, the introduction of any evidence that V was the first aggressor, like eyewitness testimony, allows the prosecution to bring in evidence that V had a character for peacefulness. In a non-homicide case prosecution can only introduce V's good character for peacefulness when D actually impeaches that characteristic.

[xfer2013]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

[Good Guy Gaud]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

I don't recall what I got on the set but I know it was also a fair deal higher than what I average on BarBri. There just may be something to this altitude training BarBri has us doing but unfortunately there is no way for us to find out until we receive our PASSING scores

[kykiske]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

Is it free?

[Good Guy Gaud]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

Is it free?

Yea

https://www.ncbex.org/pdfviewer/?file=% ... ument%2F17

here's 10 sample civ pro questions too: https://www.ncbex.org/pdfviewer/?file=% ... ument%2F16

[941law]

Even if I take a break from studying and have my night free, I still feel anti-social. These people generally know I need to be studying and want to know how it's going. I can't even relax lol. I'm an animal! (Kramer voice)

[BVest]

Even if I take a break from studying and have my night free, I still feel anti-social. These people generally know I need to be studying and want to know how it's going. I can't even relax lol. I'm an animal! (Kramer voice)

Yeah, I feel like even if I want to be social at all, I've turned into and antisocial dickhead who doesn't care what other people are saying.

[victortsoi]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

Is it free?

Yea

https://www.ncbex.org/pdfviewer/?file=% ... ument%2F17

here's 10 sample civ pro questions too: https://www.ncbex.org/pdfviewer/?file=% ... ument%2F16

i dont know, my friend and i who both take barbri took the 21 question set and bombed it. (around 55%). Found them trickier than adaptibar by far. The civ pro about the same as barbri, at least I got 7/10.

[kykiske]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

I don't recall what I got on the set but I know it was also a fair deal higher than what I average on BarBri. There just may be something to this altitude training BarBri has us doing but unfortunately there is no way for us to find out until we receive our PASSING scores

Hmm, got 67%. That's around my average. Not bad, I guess.

[somedude]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

FWIW: I just did it and I got 15/21, 71 %. That's worse than I did on Refresher and barely better than the Sim MBE. I also only got 6/10 on the Civ Pro thing.

[vulaw]

Do I just know nothing and am screwed, or was the first half of Barbri's Half-Day MBE a lot harder than the Mixed Question Sets?

Half-Day is harder.

Yeah, I feel like a train hit me. I got a 68 but, shit, that was miserable.

[rickgrimes69]

Ok probably basic question about the essays, forgive me if this has already been asked and answered.

For multiple-part questions drawing from a similar prompt, and the same analysis or rule is applicable to more than one part, can we reference to what we've already written above?

So, for example, if we have a two-part torts question, and in part (a) you analyze the elements of negligence (duty, breach, causation, damages) and how they apply to the facts, do you need to go through that same analysis again in part (b) or can you simply say "as discussed above in part (a), X is probably negligent"?

[Learned Throw Hands]

Ok probably basic question about the essays, forgive me if this has already been asked and answered.

For multiple-part questions drawing from a similar prompt, and the same analysis or rule is applicable to more than one part, can we reference to what we've already written above?

So, for example, if we have a two-part torts question, and in part (a) you analyze the elements of negligence (duty, breach, causation, damages) and how they apply to the facts, do you need to go through that same analysis again in part (b) or can you simply say "as discussed above in part (a), X is probably negligent"?

The sample answers do it all the time.

[No13baby]

Ok probably basic question about the essays, forgive me if this has already been asked and answered.

For multiple-part questions drawing from a similar prompt, and the same analysis or rule is applicable to more than one part, can we reference to what we've already written above?

So, for example, if we have a two-part torts question, and in part (a) you analyze the elements of negligence (duty, breach, causation, damages) and how they apply to the facts, do you need to go through that same analysis again in part (b) or can you simply say "as discussed above in part (a), X is probably negligent"?

Yes, it's definitely okay to do this.

[kykiske]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

FWIW: I just did it and I got 15/21, 71 %. That's worse than I did on Refresher and barely better than the Sim MBE. I also only got 6/10 on the Civ Pro thing.

There two questions on there that I was "WTF" when I read the answer. First was Q18. IT was about a service (construction) contract modification being valid without consideration because it was "fair and equitable."

Second was Q4, where the correct answer was the landowner was not liable for his neighbor's injuries--caused by trained attack dogs--because the neighbor knew of the dog's dangerous propensities. I thought landowners owed no duty of care at all to undiscovered trespassers. Nothing in the facts state that the landowner knew anything about the neighbor frequently walking past his home, nor did they mention that the landowner knew that the neighbor had buried a shovel on the landowner's land.

[kyle010723]

Anyone take that 21 question MBE sample set on the NCBE site? Thought it was worth doing because of all the talk about Barbri questions being different from the real ones.

Got 81% correct, about 10% better than my average for barbri questions...

So maybe there is something to the barbri questions being harder? Anyone else do this?

I don't recall what I got on the set but I know it was also a fair deal higher than what I average on BarBri. There just may be something to this altitude training BarBri has us doing but unfortunately there is no way for us to find out until we receive our PASSING scores

Hmm, got 67%. That's around my average. Not bad, I guess.

I just tried it. 15/21 which is slightly below my Barbri average. I mean, fair housing act?? Withdrawal of complaint?! Huh?