NY July 2016 Thread Forum

[just_me]

Just in case there are any re-takers here, wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the general set up in Buffalo?

What's the desk space like - is there enough room, and access to a socket to plug in laptop charger? Also, any memory of the temperature situation?! My experience of all other exams in the past has been either freezing or sweltering, and it's hard to predict which you're going to get!

[sinfiery]

Sinfiery,
You seem to be in good shape.

I lost a week to strep throat (weird season, I know), and will only have 1-2 days for the MEE-specific subjects.

Ah, good to know I'm not alone in this boat! Sorry about the strep throat, that sucks.

With the structure of the NY Exam, I think we are in a decent situation. Goodluck!

[MCFC]

Just in case there are any re-takers here, wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the general set up in Buffalo?

What's the desk space like - is there enough room, and access to a socket to plug in laptop charger? Also, any memory of the temperature situation?! My experience of all other exams in the past has been either freezing or sweltering, and it's hard to predict which you're going to get!

Bumping this.

I can't imagine they wouldn't have outlets (the alternative is basically to require 7+ hours of battery life), but can someone confirm?

[sublime]

Just in case there are any re-takers here, wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the general set up in Buffalo?

What's the desk space like - is there enough room, and access to a socket to plug in laptop charger? Also, any memory of the temperature situation?! My experience of all other exams in the past has been either freezing or sweltering, and it's hard to predict which you're going to get!

Bumping this.

I can't imagine they wouldn't have outlets (the alternative is basically to require 7+ hours of battery life), but can someone confirm?

Also, did we ever figure out the scratch paper situation?

[teabreeze]

Just in case there are any re-takers here, wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the general set up in Buffalo?

What's the desk space like - is there enough room, and access to a socket to plug in laptop charger? Also, any memory of the temperature situation?! My experience of all other exams in the past has been either freezing or sweltering, and it's hard to predict which you're going to get!

Bumping this.

I can't imagine they wouldn't have outlets (the alternative is basically to require 7+ hours of battery life), but can someone confirm?

I took the NY bar in Buffalo a few years ago. There are enough sockets in the ground for your power cords. I don't remember the temperature bothering me at all. I tend to get cold easily and I think I wore a tshirt and zip up hoodie for most and took my hoodie off at times. I would make sure to take a watch. I didn't, thinking that there would be clocks all over the place - not the case.

[myrtlewinston]

Scratch Paper:
I *think* there was scratch paper for the essays and MPT. But, with 30 minutes/essay, there's probably no time to use it.

Watches:
Best to bring your own. There was a clock last year, but some of us couldn't see it clearly.

[millieanon]

Just in case there are any re-takers here, wondering if anyone has any knowledge about the general set up in Buffalo?

What's the desk space like - is there enough room, and access to a socket to plug in laptop charger? Also, any memory of the temperature situation?! My experience of all other exams in the past has been either freezing or sweltering, and it's hard to predict which you're going to get!

Bumping this.

I can't imagine they wouldn't have outlets (the alternative is basically to require 7+ hours of battery life), but can someone confirm?

Also, did we ever figure out the scratch paper situation?

In the Introduction video for the MBE Refreshers (just uploaded), she said that they don't give us scratch paper anymore. Not sure if that's just for the MBE though...

[Easy-E]

Anyone else in White Plains or tested there before?

[ChocolateTruffle]

Does anyone know what Albany is like in terms of traffic and stuff? What time would you guys aim to get to the testing center by??

[LionelHutzJD]

Does anyone know what Albany is like in terms of traffic and stuff? What time would you guys aim to get to the testing center by??

In Albany i'd be more worried about crack heads than traffic.

[squiggle]

Does anyone know what Albany is like in terms of traffic and stuff? What time would you guys aim to get to the testing center by??

In Albany i'd be more worried about crack heads than traffic.

Traffic is definitely a problem, because both testing centers are very close to the capitol buildings. So you'll be competing with morning rush hour. Unfortunately, the same is true for when you leave, which is annoying if you're trying to get to NJ on Wednesday night. Everyone was also trying to leave the parking garage at the same time, so that didn't help things either. I'd give yourself extra time on Tuesday morning, and then you can adjust accordingly on Wednesday. Worst case if you get there kind of early on Tuesday, just hang out in your car and relax (or study but I'd advise against that).

[ChocolateTruffle]

Does anyone know what Albany is like in terms of traffic and stuff? What time would you guys aim to get to the testing center by??

In Albany i'd be more worried about crack heads than traffic.

Traffic is definitely a problem, because both testing centers are very close to the capitol buildings. So you'll be competing with morning rush hour. Unfortunately, the same is true for when you leave, which is annoying if you're trying to get to NJ on Wednesday night. Everyone was also trying to leave the parking garage at the same time, so that didn't help things either. I'd give yourself extra time on Tuesday morning, and then you can adjust accordingly on Wednesday. Worst case if you get there kind of early on Tuesday, just hang out in your car and relax (or study but I'd advise against that).

I have a friend who lives in Albany so I'm spending the night at her place. Her dad works near Times Union and said he'd give me a ride to the center on both days, but he wants to get there by 7am! I was worried that would be too early and that I would have stamina issues. So I was thinking, ok, if he does want to get there by 7, then I guess I can find somewhere nearby to eat breakfast? Can't study as I won't have access to my friend's dad's car anyway. But maybe I could bring the FROs and just throw them away before entering the testing site. What do you think? Is 7am TOO early? I don't want to screw myself over, so then I was wondering if I should just drive myself and find parking, but I wasn't sure what the parking situation is like, or traffic.

[Jss]

How much focus are you all putting on the MEE specific topics?

50% of the score is MBE, 20% the MPT and and only 30% the MEE right?

Within that 30%, probably about 15-20% comes from MEE specific topics right? (ie: 50-66% of the MEE comes from MEE specific topics)

I have put almost zero energy into these topics so far but was thinking about spending 3-4 of the last 10 days on them so I can BS the essays enough. Thoughts?

I'm putting more time on MEE subjects now because I've only been getting marginal gains on MBE subjects lately. Another 2 weeks of hard MBE study won't do much for me and I seriously need to memorize some MEE law. I would say that if you're at or above 70-72% on average on the MBE and on each subject then it's time for you to spend half a day on MEE subjects.

Thanks!

I started a bit late so each day is still returning pretty substantial gains for MBE practice. I will try to spend 30% of the remaining days nonetheless on the MEE.

I'm really struggling to memorise rules for the mee, I am ok with applying them to the Mbe questions but really struggling to memorise verbatim for the mee even for the Mbe subjects.

Any advice?

[LionelHutzJD]

How much focus are you all putting on the MEE specific topics?

50% of the score is MBE, 20% the MPT and and only 30% the MEE right?

Within that 30%, probably about 15-20% comes from MEE specific topics right? (ie: 50-66% of the MEE comes from MEE specific topics)

I have put almost zero energy into these topics so far but was thinking about spending 3-4 of the last 10 days on them so I can BS the essays enough. Thoughts?

I'm putting more time on MEE subjects now because I've only been getting marginal gains on MBE subjects lately. Another 2 weeks of hard MBE study won't do much for me and I seriously need to memorize some MEE law. I would say that if you're at or above 70-72% on average on the MBE and on each subject then it's time for you to spend half a day on MEE subjects.

Thanks!

I started a bit late so each day is still returning pretty substantial gains for MBE practice. I will try to spend 30% of the remaining days nonetheless on the MEE.

I'm really struggling to memorise rules for the mee, I am ok with applying them to the Mbe questions but really struggling to memorise verbatim for the mee even for the Mbe subjects.

Any advice?

I don't think memorizing rules verbatim is the way to go. Then again, what do I know.

I prefer getting a big picture of the topic and then write out the rule that makes sense and hits on the important points.It wont be blacks dictionary material but it will work.

[squiggle]

Does anyone know what Albany is like in terms of traffic and stuff? What time would you guys aim to get to the testing center by??

In Albany i'd be more worried about crack heads than traffic.

Traffic is definitely a problem, because both testing centers are very close to the capitol buildings. So you'll be competing with morning rush hour. Unfortunately, the same is true for when you leave, which is annoying if you're trying to get to NJ on Wednesday night. Everyone was also trying to leave the parking garage at the same time, so that didn't help things either. I'd give yourself extra time on Tuesday morning, and then you can adjust accordingly on Wednesday. Worst case if you get there kind of early on Tuesday, just hang out in your car and relax (or study but I'd advise against that).

I have a friend who lives in Albany so I'm spending the night at her place. Her dad works near Times Union and said he'd give me a ride to the center on both days, but he wants to get there by 7am! I was worried that would be too early and that I would have stamina issues. So I was thinking, ok, if he does want to get there by 7, then I guess I can find somewhere nearby to eat breakfast? Can't study as I won't have access to my friend's dad's car anyway. But maybe I could bring the FROs and just throw them away before entering the testing site. What do you think? Is 7am TOO early? I don't want to screw myself over, so then I was wondering if I should just drive myself and find parking, but I wasn't sure what the parking situation is like, or traffic.

I personally like having a car. I had a place to go for lunch, which I keep in a cooler in the car. The Times Union has a parking garage nearby, but everyone uses it (and there's a big line to exit at the end of the day). Empire Plaza has some lesser known parking lots that you can use (near the museum and the cathedral). 7 a.m. is a bit early, but parking can be a bit tricky.

[ChocolateTruffle]

Does anyone know what Albany is like in terms of traffic and stuff? What time would you guys aim to get to the testing center by??

In Albany i'd be more worried about crack heads than traffic.

Traffic is definitely a problem, because both testing centers are very close to the capitol buildings. So you'll be competing with morning rush hour. Unfortunately, the same is true for when you leave, which is annoying if you're trying to get to NJ on Wednesday night. Everyone was also trying to leave the parking garage at the same time, so that didn't help things either. I'd give yourself extra time on Tuesday morning, and then you can adjust accordingly on Wednesday. Worst case if you get there kind of early on Tuesday, just hang out in your car and relax (or study but I'd advise against that).

I have a friend who lives in Albany so I'm spending the night at her place. Her dad works near Times Union and said he'd give me a ride to the center on both days, but he wants to get there by 7am! I was worried that would be too early and that I would have stamina issues. So I was thinking, ok, if he does want to get there by 7, then I guess I can find somewhere nearby to eat breakfast? Can't study as I won't have access to my friend's dad's car anyway. But maybe I could bring the FROs and just throw them away before entering the testing site. What do you think? Is 7am TOO early? I don't want to screw myself over, so then I was wondering if I should just drive myself and find parking, but I wasn't sure what the parking situation is like, or traffic.

I personally like having a car. I had a place to go for lunch, which I keep in a cooler in the car. The Times Union has a parking garage nearby, but everyone uses it (and there's a big line to exit at the end of the day). Empire Plaza has some lesser known parking lots that you can use (near the museum and the cathedral). 7 a.m. is a bit early, but parking can be a bit tricky.

If I decide to drive and park, what time do you recommend I should get to a parking garage by to guarantee myself a spot? And which garage would you suggest?? Thanks for the tips!! I would also prefer to have a car I think, but my friend insists it'll be better if her dad drives me in, but I just think to get there by 7am is really early

[mvp99]

How much focus are you all putting on the MEE specific topics?

50% of the score is MBE, 20% the MPT and and only 30% the MEE right?

Within that 30%, probably about 15-20% comes from MEE specific topics right? (ie: 50-66% of the MEE comes from MEE specific topics)

I have put almost zero energy into these topics so far but was thinking about spending 3-4 of the last 10 days on them so I can BS the essays enough. Thoughts?

I'm putting more time on MEE subjects now because I've only been getting marginal gains on MBE subjects lately. Another 2 weeks of hard MBE study won't do much for me and I seriously need to memorize some MEE law. I would say that if you're at or above 70-72% on average on the MBE and on each subject then it's time for you to spend half a day on MEE subjects.

Thanks!

I started a bit late so each day is still returning pretty substantial gains for MBE practice. I will try to spend 30% of the remaining days nonetheless on the MEE.

I'm really struggling to memorise rules for the mee, I am ok with applying them to the Mbe questions but really struggling to memorise verbatim for the mee even for the Mbe subjects.

Any advice?

I don't think memorizing rules verbatim is the way to go. Then again, what do I know.

I prefer getting a big picture of the topic and then write out the rule that makes sense and hits on the important points.It wont be blacks dictionary material but it will work.

I agree and thanks for qualifying my answer again No need to memorize the law verbatim and its true that you must first understand the big picture (like in law school). At most, instead of verbatim, I would memorize the buzz words, drop one or two per rule so it'll looks like you know what you're talking about.

[LionelHutzJD]

How much focus are you all putting on the MEE specific topics?

50% of the score is MBE, 20% the MPT and and only 30% the MEE right?

Within that 30%, probably about 15-20% comes from MEE specific topics right? (ie: 50-66% of the MEE comes from MEE specific topics)

I have put almost zero energy into these topics so far but was thinking about spending 3-4 of the last 10 days on them so I can BS the essays enough. Thoughts?

I'm putting more time on MEE subjects now because I've only been getting marginal gains on MBE subjects lately. Another 2 weeks of hard MBE study won't do much for me and I seriously need to memorize some MEE law. I would say that if you're at or above 70-72% on average on the MBE and on each subject then it's time for you to spend half a day on MEE subjects.

Thanks!

I started a bit late so each day is still returning pretty substantial gains for MBE practice. I will try to spend 30% of the remaining days nonetheless on the MEE.

I'm really struggling to memorise rules for the mee, I am ok with applying them to the Mbe questions but really struggling to memorise verbatim for the mee even for the Mbe subjects.

Any advice?

I don't think memorizing rules verbatim is the way to go. Then again, what do I know.

I prefer getting a big picture of the topic and then write out the rule that makes sense and hits on the important points.It wont be blacks dictionary material but it will work.

I agree and thanks for qualifying my answer again No need to memorize the law verbatim and its true that you must first understand the big picture (like in law school). At most, instead of verbatim, I would memorize the buzz words, drop one or two per rule so it'll looks like you know what you're talking about.

Haha sorry brother. I totally did not see what you originally had wrote. You hit it right on the head.

[ndp1234]

I'm really struggling to memorise rules for the mee, I am ok with applying them to the Mbe questions but really struggling to memorise verbatim for the mee even for the Mbe subjects.

Any advice?

I read a MEE study guide and the author suggested to memorize analysis paragraphs or try to memorize an attack plan. For Example:

"A partnership is a fiduciary relationship between two or more persons carrying on a for-profit business as co-owners...."

I also realize that when I'm answering essay questions, if I write my analysis before writing the rule (but still keeping it in IRAC), it helps jog my memory to remember more rules I can add in. Especially since no rule is too minor to include.

[melich]

Anyone here pre-ordering their lunch? I'm considering whether to do it or not.

[whitecollar23]

We can bring zip up sweatshirts with a hood, right? If we don't use the hood...?

[myrtlewinston]

We can bring zip up sweatshirts with a hood, right? If we don't use the hood...?

Yes. Why can't the hood be used? I'd like to block my peripheral vision.

[whitecollar23]

Does anyone see a point in doing MBE-subject essays other than to stay sharp with timing? Like, doing MBE questions should work to be a way to prep the substantive information, right?

[Mr. Peanutbutter]

Does anyone see a point in doing MBE-subject essays other than to stay sharp with timing? Like, doing MBE questions should work to be a way to prep the substantive information, right?

That's what I'm hoping (I assume you're still going to go over the stuff that isn't on the MBE but is on the MEE, right?)

[Easy-E]

Does anyone see a point in doing MBE-subject essays other than to stay sharp with timing? Like, doing MBE questions should work to be a way to prep the substantive information, right?

I'm doing a few here and there to reinforce stuff, but yeah, MBE work should be helping you prep for them. I'm also just outlining essays, so they take less than 15 minutes each.