FLORIDA BAR - JULY 2014 Forum

[MoneyMay]

Was anyone close to that girl? What was she yelling about? I just heard a lot of yelling and saw proctors lightly jogging towards the noise.

I too am curious about this. I was close enough to here the yelling but not enough to catch any of the actual words.

OMG someone please fill us in!
I thought I heard something, but I was near the back end of the room... My boyfriend was waiting outside to pick me up and overheard some people talking about a girl freaking out and that they took her out of the room.
Funny because I thought the afternoon was the easiest of the entire two days...

I thought the afternoon was weird more than hard for sure... It was a lot of "these are all wrong but pick the least wrong one, lol" questions.

[Gatorgirl_007]

Uhhh yea. So she was two rows behind me. The outburst started with an episode of crying and loud clapping. As for the yelling..... It was completely incoherent. Something about hurricanes, weather, the fact that we are a good people and that "they" shouldn't be doing this to us. Literally, everything that I was trying to hear as I was frantically bubbling in answer choices.

[SenorTaxLawl]

Hello friends!

It's so surreal to me that we are done. I didn't even consider this to be a possibility without three mental breakdowns. Sigh.

I felt better about today than I did about yesterday, but that's saying literally zero things because yesterday was the most horrible day ever. So. Yea. First half of the morning was definitely confusing. Second half of the morning was less so.

Needless to say I felt far better about my Barbri and practice questions than I did about the real life mbe. Lol. But whatever.

Regarding the girl who had an actual breakdown...I say about 4 rows behind the poor girl. She just lost her shit. She was so out of it that she was commenting on how this was such a beautiful city and the she shouldn't have been here for this and blah blah. It was bad. Baaaaaad. She never actually left the room though, I don't think. I realized the commotion first, then I took out my ear plugs to listen more where I caught the beautiful city bit, but like 5 minutes had passed and time is always my challenge on these things so I stopped listening and put them back on. But I never saw anyone looking like her leave. I do know that one proctor came to her, then left, then came back to her and i his way back she gotup to give him a huge hug and he handed her something. I couldn't see what it was.

I feel so bad for her, as this is a really stressful day. But here's my thing - we are all stressed. We all want to not be there. We all want to cry. Some of us hold it in. Some of us freak out, others don't. It's fine. But I would never freak out in such a fashion that it causes others around me to be so so so distracted during the 12 most important hours of their year. It's just not proper form I don't think. Freak out honey. It's a scary test. But don't start wailing. Imagine her poor table buddy? Ugh.

But it's all over guys. I thought I would want to get drunk. Buy all I want to do is sleep and/or turn into a puddle of lazy.

[whatthelaw]

Hello friends!

It's so surreal to me that we are done. I didn't even consider this to be a possibility without three mental breakdowns. Sigh.

I felt better about today than I did about yesterday, but that's saying literally zero things because yesterday was the most horrible day ever. So. Yea. First half of the morning was definitely confusing. Second half of the morning was less so.

Needless to say I felt far better about my Barbri and practice questions than I did about the real life mbe. Lol. But whatever.

Regarding the girl who had an actual breakdown...I say about 4 rows behind the poor girl. She just lost her shit. She was so out of it that she was commenting on how this was such a beautiful city and the she shouldn't have been here for this and blah blah. It was bad. Baaaaaad. She never actually left the room though, I don't think. I realized the commotion first, then I took out my ear plugs to listen more where I caught the beautiful city bit, but like 5 minutes had passed and time is always my challenge on these things so I stopped listening and put them back on. But I never saw anyone looking like her leave. I do know that one proctor came to her, then left, then came back to her and i his way back she gotup to give him a huge hug and he handed her something. I couldn't see what it was.

I feel so bad for her, as this is a really stressful day. But here's my thing - we are all stressed. We all want to not be there. We all want to cry. Some of us hold it in. Some of us freak out, others don't. It's fine. But I would never freak out in such a fashion that it causes others around me to be so so so distracted during the 12 most important hours of their year. It's just not proper form I don't think. Freak out honey. It's a scary test. But don't start wailing. Imagine her poor table buddy? Ugh.

But it's all over guys. I thought I would want to get drunk. Buy all I want to do is sleep and/or turn into a puddle of lazy.

THEY DIDN'T REMOVE HER????

Everyone close enough to hear that shit should file a complaint. Worst administration ever.

[alicrimson]

Was anyone close to that girl? What was she yelling about? I just heard a lot of yelling and saw proctors lightly jogging towards the noise.

I too am curious about this. I was close enough to here the yelling but not enough to catch any of the actual words.

I was a couple rows away. It wasn't pretty. Chick also went to my school. A year above me, failed at least one bar already. I recognize her from a certain cocurricular, but I don't know her beyond acquaintance. Just rambling nonsense about working for the red cross. It started with laughter and clapping and banging on desks. There were a few outbursts. I'm shocked she wasn't removed. She was yelling about how Tampa is a beautiful place and we shouldn't be here. She started screamed about typhoons, tsunamis, and segregation. She said something about how we're all from different schools and there's segregation. We shouldn't be here! They need to know! They need to know! I work for the red cross. She also turned around, put her hand under her chin, and stared down the girl behind her. I would have lost it. The sad part is, they moved the guy at her table before they decided to remove her from the room. Really?


So crazy. At least she didn't pee herself like the guy from the essay portion...

[MoneyMay]

Was anyone close to that girl? What was she yelling about? I just heard a lot of yelling and saw proctors lightly jogging towards the noise.

I too am curious about this. I was close enough to here the yelling but not enough to catch any of the actual words.

I was a couple rows away. It wasn't pretty. Chick also went to my school. A year above me, failed at least one bar already. I recognize her from a certain cocurricular, but I don't know her beyond acquaintance. Just rambling nonsense about working for the red cross. It started with laughter and clapping and banging on desks. There were a few outbursts. I'm shocked she wasn't removed. She was yelling about how Tampa is a beautiful place and we shouldn't be here. She started screamed about typhoons, tsunamis, and segregation. She said something about how we're all from different schools and there's segregation. We shouldn't be here! They need to know! They need to know! I work for the red cross. She also turned around, put her hand under her chin, and stared down the girl behind her. I would have lost it. The sad part is, they moved the guy at her table before they decided to remove her from the room. Really?


So crazy. At least she didn't pee herself like the guy from the essay portion...

Ouch... I didn't hear about the guy peeing himself. I mean I know we are all nervous, but jeeze. Anyway, I feel lucky that I had normal people all around me. The person next to me was pretty chill and I felt lucky that I didn't have to worry about someone trying to kill me in the middle of the exam or throwing up on me... I heard the people closest to the restrooms could hear ppl barfing in there. But yeah my main take away is they really fucked up that administration; there were always people walking around but everytime I asked a proctor a question they were just like "i dunno lol."

[whatthelaw]

Geez, the most eventful thing around me was a girl blowing her nose too often, and another who left early and was clacking down the aisle in her heels.

Also...
1. People who decided to dress up: Why?
2. I thought we weren't allowed to bring in water bottles. Totally saw a few.
3. Also didn't think we could bring in earplugs bc they weren't on the list...

[MoneyMay]

Oh and while I have my complaints about BarBri (cough essay grading cough) but their FL MCs were SPOT ON (the lecture handouts more so than the practice MCs IMO). I mean I felt like I knew everything. Special shout out to Richard Freer, I mean it's like he knew EXACTLY what was going to be on there and the way he organized his handout made it easy to memorize even though it was like 40 or 50 pages (or w/e it was). Kaplan/ Themis ppl were complaining a lot about the MC but most BarBri ppl seemed solid.

[SenorTaxLawl]

Oh and while I have my complaints about BarBri (cough essay grading cough) but their FL MCs were SPOT ON (the lecture handouts more so than the practice MCs IMO). I mean I felt like I knew everything. Special shout out to Richard Freer, I mean it's like he knew EXACTLY what was going to be on there and the way he organized his handout made it easy to memorize even though it was like 40 or 50 pages (or w/e it was). Kaplan/ Themis ppl were complaining a lot about the MC but most BarBri ppl seemed solid.

I wish I could share 1/100th of your confidence in my MC abilities. I took the route of practice > reading endlessly and so I just did tons of practice questions and rereading the answers and the wrong answers ad naseum.....and I did not feel great. Some of the questions I'm 93% sure were asked in Korean. Maybe 94%.

But guess what? Fucks given about my performance at 2:00 yesterday = 0, because I can change exactly zero things now.

Guess I was wrong about them removing the girl, I could have sworn I saw her there still, and her neighbor dude (he was wearing a blue shirt) never moved.....but apparently they did move him? IDK. It was all heinous. I tried to pay attention but I was like "NO SOAP OPERA TIME!"

This administration was a mess. Proctors had no idea what was happening. And while I completely commend these little old ladies for their time and I loved their pleasant and happy faces.....those darlin's cannot move like the used to. Perhaps do not employ them and then scream at them for not collecting 3k+ tests in 2 minutes. Lol.

And now it is 12:30am and I have looped around from exhausted back to wired because it's just so surreal to me that it's over.

[MoneyMay]

Oh and while I have my complaints about BarBri (cough essay grading cough) but their FL MCs were SPOT ON (the lecture handouts more so than the practice MCs IMO). I mean I felt like I knew everything. Special shout out to Richard Freer, I mean it's like he knew EXACTLY what was going to be on there and the way he organized his handout made it easy to memorize even though it was like 40 or 50 pages (or w/e it was). Kaplan/ Themis ppl were complaining a lot about the MC but most BarBri ppl seemed solid.

I wish I could share 1/100th of your confidence in my MC abilities. I took the route of practice > reading endlessly and so I just did tons of practice questions and rereading the answers and the wrong answers ad naseum.....and I did not feel great. Some of the questions I'm 93% sure were asked in Korean. Maybe 94%.

But guess what? Fucks given about my performance at 2:00 yesterday = 0, because I can change exactly zero things now.

Guess I was wrong about them removing the girl, I could have sworn I saw her there still, and her neighbor dude (he was wearing a blue shirt) never moved.....but apparently they did move him? IDK. It was all heinous. I tried to pay attention but I was like "NO SOAP OPERA TIME!"

This administration was a mess. Proctors had no idea what was happening. And while I completely commend these little old ladies for their time and I loved their pleasant and happy faces.....those darlin's cannot move like the used to. Perhaps do not employ them and then scream at them for not collecting 3k+ tests in 2 minutes. Lol.

And now it is 12:30am and I have looped around from exhausted back to wired because it's just so surreal to me that it's over.

Yeah I am right there with you. I am getting drunk (alone, lol) and just thinking about everything. I like how the announcement lady tried to tell jokes, and also that she took 20 minutes explaining absolutely nothing and then took 5 seconds to give us time to write our name and all that other stuff on our answer sheet before starting the test. Also, LOL @ the rent-a-cops at the metal detectors, just lol.

EDIT: How yeah and I am not worrying either about it at this point. I FUCKED up the essays in a major way (wasn't what I was expecting at ALL, I spent so much time learning property, normal torts and FL Con law for NOTHING) but it's okay it's only 1/4 of my grade and I think I killed the MC... but yea not thinking about it, going to chill with non law school friends only for the foreseeable future, and put this behind me.

[Shawshank33]

My proctor was a fucking nightmare...he told me minutes before the instructions started that all attorneys are crooks, how he got fucked over by a jury and let a guilty guy go (imagine his love for me when he found out I got a job as a public defender) then he sat in front of me and proceeded to obnoxiously clear his throat once every minute for the entire exam. Old miserable pathetic man!

The administration was a nightmare..the entire exam was my worst nightmare!! I felt like absolute shit yesterday..the " I know you passed" calls did not help. Woke up today and snapped out of it..like previously said, it's over and nothing we can do about it! Time to get back to having some free time and FINALLY start working.

CONGRATS to all of us. Nobody else will ever be able to understand what we went through. I appreciate having you all to talk to! Wishing you all the best of luck in your future endeavors!

[SilverE2]

My proctor was a fucking nightmare...he told me minutes before the instructions started that all attorneys are crooks, how he got fucked over by a jury and let a guilty guy go (imagine his love for me when he found out I got a job as a public defender) then he sat in front of me and proceeded to obnoxiously clear his throat once every minute for the entire exam. Old miserable pathetic man!

The administration was a nightmare..the entire exam was my worst nightmare!! I felt like absolute shit yesterday..the " I know you passed" calls did not help. Woke up today and snapped out of it..like previously said, it's over and nothing we can do about it! Time to get back to having some free time and FINALLY start working.

CONGRATS to all of us. Nobody else will ever be able to understand what we went through. I appreciate having you all to talk to! Wishing you all the best of luck in your future endeavors!

You had a proctor?

Yeah shit was weird this bar exam. Oh well I thought it was kind of a cool experience, though not pleasant and I definitely don't want to do it again (though I might have to).

[baal hadad]

I hope you people went out after

[ConsiderMeMilesDavis]

"Freak out chick" was probably 30 feet from me and def caused me to guess on a few questions to keep pace. I loved how people kept "sshhh"ing her like the problem was that she didn't realize we need to be quiet...however, she has certainly peaked my interest in the Red Cross and/or tornado research if the whole law thing doesn't work out.

I cannot believe they did not immediately kick that girl out...wtf?! I definitely threw me off, so I can only imagine what it would be like sitting right in front of her wondering if your life was going to end from a stab wound to the neck from a pastel mechanical pencil while taking the MBE...

[silky bruh]

I hope you people went out after

everything hurts

[fsunoles88]

Does anyone else feel fairly shitty about the Florida MC? That was pretty terrible.

[Hannibal]

I hope you people went out after

I went all the way down the elevator!

[whatthelaw]

Does anyone else feel fairly shitty about the Florida MC? That was pretty terrible.

I felt like a lot of the questions were on things Kaplan never covered. I studied soooo hard for Crim/Civ Pro and felt like most of what I knew wasn't tested.

[fsunoles88]

Does anyone else feel fairly shitty about the Florida MC? That was pretty terrible.

I felt like a lot of the questions were on things Kaplan never covered. I studied soooo hard for Crim/Civ Pro and felt like most of what I knew wasn't tested.

I feel the same way. I took Kaplan as well and a lot of the Florida MC seemed to come out of nowhere. Oh well. I feel sort of decent about the essays and the MBE, so as long as I didn't bomb the Florida MC too bad I think I'll be ok.


I hope.

[Dripworx]

I hope you people went out after

everything hurts

This.

[Hilarious1]

I was very close to this girl and let me tell you, I was furious! Not only did she take 15 minutes off my exam but thereafter, it was hard for me to get back on track. They definitely escorted her out. I don't know if she was off her medication or if she was using drugs, but to me, it wasn't just a melt down. She was clapping and then staring down the girl behind her. I thought she was going to stab someone at one point. Oh, and lets not forget Examsoft the day before. It took me two hours to ensure my essays were submitted. Finally, the second part of the MBEs was a lot harder for me than the first. I hope I at least passed the MBEs. FL multiple choice kicked my butt. I can't imagine doing this whole thing all over again.

[Seminole_305]

Somethings I heard and general thoughts

- Apparently 5 people were caught cheating. Not sure what school though.
- I was told by someone that the second essay was pure torts. If that is the case then I am fucked because I did not discuss a single one.
- I thought the MBE was weird and I cannot for sure tell you how I feel about my performance.
- First thing I did when I got home was watch Falling Skies and wonder if I should start studying for Feb.

[Hannibal]

- I was told by someone that the second essay was pure torts. If that is the case then I am fucked because I did not discuss a single one.

I thought it was a clearly asking parol evidence rule/contract misrepresentation/waiver analysis. I figured that it probably fell into the tort of misrepresentation (fraud) so I wrote a paragraph about that and made up the elements since BARBRI guy didn't teach us that. Either way, there was a lot of contracts to talk about, much more than torts I thought.

Also, did they kick the people caught cheating out or what? Do they just drop a note? Crazy.

[Seminole_305]

- I was told by someone that the second essay was pure torts. If that is the case then I am fucked because I did not discuss a single one.

I thought it was a clearly asking parol evidence rule/contract misrepresentation/waiver analysis. I figured that it probably fell into the tort of misrepresentation (fraud) so I wrote a paragraph about that and made up the elements since BARBRI guy didn't teach us that. Either way, there was a lot of contracts to talk about, much more than torts I thought.

Also, did they kick the people caught cheating out or what? Do they just drop a note? Crazy.

Cool I mentioned parol evidence and fraud but discussed them in a Ks context. I heard the people who were caught had cellphones, which explains why they kept saying no cellphones the second day.

[Geaux12]

How the fuck do you cheat on the bar?


Isn't that guaranteed C&F banishment?