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How did the MBE go, compared to your expectation?

A lot easier than I expected.
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by History_Buff » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:29 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
Well I know which ones I missed then.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by UVAIce » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:30 pm

https://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html ... _user.html

Just read this and it will make sense.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by nucky thompson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:30 pm

History_Buff wrote:
UVAIce wrote:The guy had continued employment - he kept his job - he just didn't have his position anymore.
This is how I understood it.
You can keep your job and be deprived of a property intetest.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by UVAIce » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:31 pm

But even in those cases the President has authority to remove inferior officers, see above. It will make sense. I'm not going to speak about this anymore because we've pretty much laid out what the question was at this point, which is verboten.

If due process was a problem then the President couldn't just fire cabinet officials. Make sense?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by History_Buff » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:32 pm

UVAIce wrote:But even in those cases the President has authority to remove inferior officers, see above. It will make sense. I'm not going to speak bout this anymore because we've pretty much laid out what the question was at this point, which is verboten.
At this point it's just repeating the same shit ad nauseam, and it's getting annoying.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by jaysnooginz » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:33 pm

I know how I felt after the MBE - most drunk.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by nucky thompson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:33 pm

UVAIce wrote:But even in those cases the President has authority to remove inferior officers, see above. It will make sense. I'm not going to speak about this anymore because we've pretty much laid out what the question was at this point, which is verboten.

If due process was a problem then the President couldn't just fire cabinet officials. Make sense?

Because cabinet officials can be fired without cause

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Elston Gunn » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:35 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
fuck that question tho

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by UVAIce » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:36 pm

History_Buff wrote:
UVAIce wrote:But even in those cases the President has authority to remove inferior officers, see above. It will make sense. I'm not going to speak bout this anymore because we've pretty much laid out what the question was at this point, which is verboten.
At this point it's just repeating the same shit ad nauseam, and it's getting annoying.
Just read the last paragraph.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by victortsoi » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:37 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
fuck that question tho
ugh....i thought it followed the land.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by nucky thompson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:38 pm

UVAIce wrote:
History_Buff wrote:
UVAIce wrote:But even in those cases the President has authority to remove inferior officers, see above. It will make sense. I'm not going to speak bout this anymore because we've pretty much laid out what the question was at this point, which is verboten.
At this point it's just repeating the same shit ad nauseam, and it's getting annoying.
Just read the last paragraph.
Bro. Just stop. Yes there is a removal issue, yes the president has the authority to remove but youre missing this: that authority is restrained by the due process clause
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by odoylerulez » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:39 pm

nucky thompson wrote:
UVAIce wrote:
History_Buff wrote:
UVAIce wrote:But even in those cases the President has authority to remove inferior officers, see above. It will make sense. I'm not going to speak bout this anymore because we've pretty much laid out what the question was at this point, which is verboten.
At this point it's just repeating the same shit ad nauseam, and it's getting annoying.
Just read the last paragraph.
Bro. Just stop. Yes there is a removal issue, yes the president has the authority to remove but your missing this: that authority is restrained by the due process clause
Was it a reassignment, though? If he was, that falls within the scope of the CIC power and DP doesn't apply. I've seen QBank questions on it. I can't remember if that was in the question though.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by gabewatch » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:39 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
fuck that question tho
So lame. Pretty sure Kaplan didn't ever mention anything about negotiable notes within a mortgages context. And it wasn't ever presented in their practice mbe questions either. (I did 2,240 + 400 from the midterm/simulated practice exam). And not happy about that IIIED/battery question either. I hate the questions that turn on things like whether extremely embarrassed is emotional distress or not. Sounds like it would be to me. . . but seems like the consensus is that it is not.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by odoylerulez » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:41 pm

gabewatch wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
fuck that question tho
So lame. Pretty sure Kaplan didn't ever mention anything about negotiable notes within a mortgages context. And it wasn't ever presented in their practice mbe questions either. (I did 2,240 + 400 from the midterm/simulated practice exam). And not happy about that IIIED/battery question either. I hate the questions that turn on things like whether extremely embarrassed is emotional distress or not. Sounds like it would be to me. . . but seems like the consensus is that it is not.
The Property lecture mentioned everything you needed to know for those questions, I think. But, I didn't remember any of it - it was quickly glossed over. And I don't think there were any similar QBank questions, at least that I saw.

Those sucked.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by nucky thompson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:42 pm

gabewatch wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
fuck that question tho
So lame. Pretty sure Kaplan didn't ever mention anything about negotiable notes within a mortgages context. And it wasn't ever presented in their practice mbe questions either. (I did 2,240 + 400 from the midterm/simulated practice exam). And not happy about that IIIED/battery question either. I hate the questions that turn on things like whether extremely embarrassed is emotional distress or not. Sounds like it would be to me. . . but seems like the consensus is that it is not.
It was a tricky question but is not what the question turned on. battery was correct either way. If you noticed that, then you would have found a reason to eliminate iied

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by cdelgado » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:43 pm

Let us hope the curve is generous. I honestly have no recollection about how I did, but I know I missed a few discussed here.

I usually mark the ones I am uncertain on as I take the exam, and I think there were about 60.

Edit: I honestly cannot remember the facts of the IIED/battery, so I'm not even sure what I put at this point.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Hutz_and_Goodman » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:53 pm

cdelgado wrote:Let us hope the curve is generous. I honestly have no recollection about how I did, but I know I missed a few discussed here.

I usually mark the ones I am uncertain on as I take the exam, and I think there were about 60.

Edit: I honestly cannot remember the facts of the IIED/battery, so I'm not even sure what I put at this point.
There were two questions very similar where IIED nied battery and assault. I put IIED for both but it sounds like pulling out a chair is battery.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by gabewatch » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:58 pm

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
cdelgado wrote:Let us hope the curve is generous. I honestly have no recollection about how I did, but I know I missed a few discussed here.

I usually mark the ones I am uncertain on as I take the exam, and I think there were about 60.

Edit: I honestly cannot remember the facts of the IIED/battery, so I'm not even sure what I put at this point.
There were two questions very similar where IIED nied battery and assault. I put IIED for both but it sounds like pulling out a chair is battery.
Yeah, I don't know how well I remember the question but it sounds like battery was correct. However, there are probably situations where you could have both a battery and IIED. And if that was possible in any given question, I would imagine the stronger claim would be the correct answer.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Lobolaw1984 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:59 pm

Doesn't the president just fire generals and shit at will?

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by History_Buff » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:01 pm

gabewatch wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
cdelgado wrote:Let us hope the curve is generous. I honestly have no recollection about how I did, but I know I missed a few discussed here.

I usually mark the ones I am uncertain on as I take the exam, and I think there were about 60.

Edit: I honestly cannot remember the facts of the IIED/battery, so I'm not even sure what I put at this point.
There were two questions very similar where IIED nied battery and assault. I put IIED for both but it sounds like pulling out a chair is battery.
Yeah, I don't know how well I remember the question but it sounds like battery was correct. However, there are probably situations where you could have both a battery and IIED. And if that was possible in any given question, I would imagine the stronger claim would be the correct answer.
Yeah, battery is definitely a stronger claim and I doubt that the behavior rises to the level of extreme and offensive behavior.
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Calicakes » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:07 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:Helpful?
Along with the power to appoint comes the power to remove. Except where statutorily limited, the President may remove any executive branch officer. Congress cannot prevent removal entirely, but may limit removal by requiring a showing of good cause, provided the office from which the person is being fired is one where some measure of independence from the President is desirable. For example, the power of the President to remove Members of the Cabinet cannot be limited by Congress, because independence from the President is not desirable for those posts.
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conLawCrim ... Powers.asp
I honestly can't even remember the fact pattern.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by sd5289 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:11 pm

kyle010723 wrote:
moreheesh wrote:negotiable notes and mortgages anyone? Must they be assigned together? I had 2 questions like that.
Yes, if they were assign separately, the mortgage is invalid (some state follows the note). Did not know that until I read the CMR afterward.
Oh thank goodness. All I could remember from Themis lecture was "the mortgage follows the note." So I went with the invalid mortgage assumption.

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by sd5289 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:12 pm

jaysnooginz wrote:I know how I felt after the MBE - most drunk.
Not much has changed for me since after the MBE yesterday. Currently playing drunk Xbox and it is grand. :lol:

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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by gabewatch » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:13 pm

deleted bc it may be too close to the q.
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Re: MBE - how'd you feel?

Post by Hutz_and_Goodman » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:14 pm

History_Buff wrote:
gabewatch wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:
cdelgado wrote:Let us hope the curve is generous. I honestly have no recollection about how I did, but I know I missed a few discussed here.

I usually mark the ones I am uncertain on as I take the exam, and I think there were about 60.

Edit: I honestly cannot remember the facts of the IIED/battery, so I'm not even sure what I put at this point.
There were two questions very similar where IIED nied battery and assault. I put IIED for both but it sounds like pulling out a chair is battery.
Yeah, I don't know how well I remember the question but it sounds like battery was correct. However, there are probably situations where you could have both a battery and IIED. And if that was possible in any given question, I would imagine the stronger claim would be the correct answer.
Yeah, battery is definitely a stronger claim and I doubt that the behavior rises to the level of extreme and offensive behavior.
So are you saying both of these are battery? One is chair pulling out I can't remember the other. In neither was there "harmful or offensive contact" so I thought all the claims likely to fail but at least IIED was possible.

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