Barbri paced program question? Forum

[alicrimson]

Are you guys taking the full time to draft out the essays? I never remember anything but the broadest strokes and generally make up something that sounds good, which takes like half the allotted time.

Do you think it's like that on the real exam too?

The essays are, to my knowledge, questions from past exams...or at least ours are. I think with repetition, the essay skills will come because you see patterns, start to memorize the law, and see what they want/how they want it applied. At least, that seems to be the case in FL.

[MoneyMay]

Are you guys taking the full time to draft out the essays? I never remember anything but the broadest strokes and generally make up something that sounds good, which takes like half the allotted time.

Do you think it's like that on the real exam too?

I am not, I think it's too time consuming and doesn't help me learn the law. I am just reading as many of them as I can and I have a list of rules for each subject, and if I come across a new rule I write it down on my list but that's it.

[lalala21]

Are you guys taking the full time to draft out the essays? I never remember anything but the broadest strokes and generally make up something that sounds good, which takes like half the allotted time.

Do you think it's like that on the real exam too?

The essays are, to my knowledge, questions from past exams...or at least ours are. I think with repetition, the essay skills will come because you see patterns, start to memorize the law, and see what they want/how they want it applied. At least, that seems to be the case in FL.

At first I did not write out the essays, but I started to a week or so ago. Something about forcing myself to really struggle through the question has been really helpful to me as far as learning the material and getting better at BSing when I don't. However, I only write out the question when the schedule says to write it out.

[northwood]

i write out the issue statement and the rule... if I know how to apply it, I don't bother, and if Im not sure I skip it then go back to it after I finished all rule statements.

right now I have to focus on being more conscise and to the point. I hope that will come with memorizing the law, because right now I just put a of background detail into my rule statements without getting to the rule...

i.e. a provisional remedy seeks to enforce the status quo. they are usually made on motion, but can be made ex parte( without a motion), however an ex parte motion will require the proponent to demonstrate that giving notice will result in a likelihood of irreparable harm, or harm that cannot be easily quantified. there are 4 provisional remedies; a lis pendens( 3 years, must be renewed before expires unless in mortgage foreclosure action, and puts prospective buyers on notice that the property is subject to litigation), a order of attachment( used in monetary actions- to get one the proponents additional must show FLIP CJ that the defendant has a likelihood to fraud the court or remove property, likelihood of success on the merits, irreparable harm may result or a decrease in property value- defendant is not domiciled in the state, but the property is in the state, or tha the plaintiff is seeking to enforce a out of state junction), a preliminary injunction( seeks an injunction barring the defendant from actual or potential harm, and a court order receiver( controls the assets and safeguards the property to reduce risk of loss/ damage). with the exception of an LP, the proponent must first get the sheriff involved, demonstrate a likelihood of prevailing on the issue, obtain a court order, and post a bond double the amount of the item.


now on the actual bar exam I would not go into much detail about the different types of provisional remedies, but I do so as a way to help me study and learn the material.

[jaydizzle]

Does anyone have a family law outline? Schechter does not release one for family law or torts, and it is incredibly frustrating.

[jd20132013]

I will say that the AMPs feel useful for the more discrete yes/no classes with simple rule statements, like evidence and some parts of crim pro.

It's pretty useless for Property.

I tend to do them when I'm eating, or other things like that

[ap1987]

Are you guys/girls all hitting average or above average on the MPQ question sets?

[Stringer6]

These Property MPQ sets are just ridiculous. I'm scoring at average but I don't feel like I'm getting anything out of doing these questions. They are impossible. These are the only questions where I don't understand what's going on after I read some of them.

Anyone else feel the same.

[nygrrrl]

These Property MPQ sets are just ridiculous. I'm scoring at average but I don't feel like I'm getting anything out of doing these questions. They are impossible. These are the only questions where I don't understand what's going on after I read some of them.

Anyone else feel the same.

Hovering around average on these. So. Much. Stuff.

[ph14]

These Property MPQ sets are just ridiculous. I'm scoring at average but I don't feel like I'm getting anything out of doing these questions. They are impossible. These are the only questions where I don't understand what's going on after I read some of them.

Anyone else feel the same.

Hovering around average on these. So. Much. Stuff.

Yeah, property MBE questions are pretty tough. They're the only ones where I have to take notes or draw diagrams to keep everything straight.

"1. Bank
2. Finance company
3. Creditor"

^ To help keep straight mortgage questions.



^ To help keep straight easement and other similar questions.

[jd20132013]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

[Stringer6]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

My friend is well over the average. He says it's because he has a mortgage. I hate him.

[ph14]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

My friend is well over the average. He says it's because he has a mortgage. I hate him.

What's the average?

[Stringer6]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

My friend is well over the average. He says it's because he has a mortgage. I hate him.

What's the average?

4 of the 6 sets are 9/18

look in the front of the MPQ book

[Helpful]

I know that this has been discussed before, but for past bar takers -- did you feel that BarBri's practice MBE questions were enough, or should I spring for a supplementary source like the Emanuel book? FWIW, I'm scoring about average or slightly above so far. I've heard some people say that the Emanuel questions were older and not as representative, while others have said that BarBri's questions are a bit harder than the real thing.

[El Pollito]

I know that this has been discussed before, but for past bar takers -- did you feel that BarBri's practice MBE questions were enough, or should I spring for a supplementary source like the Emanuel book? FWIW, I'm scoring about average or slightly above so far. I've heard some people say that the Emanuel questions were older and not as representative, while others have said that BarBri's questions are a bit harder than the real thing.

I bought the NCBE questions, but they were much easier than the average question I saw on the MBE, so they weren't that useful. Barmax has pretty good questions and I think you can get a bunch for 99 or something cheap.

[mvpforme]

I know that this has been discussed before, but for past bar takers -- did you feel that BarBri's practice MBE questions were enough, or should I spring for a supplementary source like the Emanuel book? FWIW, I'm scoring about average or slightly above so far. I've heard some people say that the Emanuel questions were older and not as representative, while others have said that BarBri's questions are a bit harder than the real thing.

I have the same question. Specifically, I'm wondering how much different the NCBE exam questions are stylistically (if that makes any sense). I performed well on the simulated MBE, but right now I'm inclined to attribute it to just learning how to deal with Barbri's tricks.

Another user posted somewhere on here that he performed well on the simulated MBE, but found the actual exam much more difficult.

[jd20132013]

I just bought the Emanuel book. Living at home to study so this isn't the thing to cheap out on for me.
I'll let you know how they go (although I won't start them until I finish the studysmarts, I think)

[alicrimson]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

I'm pretty high above average too, but only because I diagram everything out. The diagrams really do help a TON. That, and I kinda like property. Kinda. It's weird.

[prs362]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

I'm pretty high above average too, but only because I diagram everything out. The diagrams really do help a TON. That, and I kinda like property. Kinda. It's weird.

You diagram out within the 108 seconds? I can hardly read the ridiculously long questions and answers for property in the suggested time, much less diagram. I finished a way above average on the first two sets, (I think in like the 14 or 15 range,), but then dropped down to like 11 or 12 correct on sets 3 and 4.

[MoneyMay]

i don't know anyone who's over the average on property. I'm convinced that the upper percentiles are doing it open book.

I'm pretty high above average too, but only because I diagram everything out. The diagrams really do help a TON. That, and I kinda like property. Kinda. It's weird.

You diagram out within the 108 seconds? I can hardly read the ridiculously long questions and answers for property in the suggested time, much less diagram. I finished a way above average on the first two sets, (I think in like the 14 or 15 range,), but then dropped down to like 11 or 12 correct on sets 3 and 4.

Property was one of my strongest subjects and I think it's because I diagram too. As soon as I see a wall of text I just go straight into diagramming as I read. Oh and on average I am doing these in about 90 seconds, but on the practice tests I was under time because some questions are shorter (con law lololol).

[lmr]

I know that this has been discussed before, but for past bar takers -- did you feel that BarBri's practice MBE questions were enough, or should I spring for a supplementary source like the Emanuel book? FWIW, I'm scoring about average or slightly above so far. I've heard some people say that the Emanuel questions were older and not as representative, while others have said that BarBri's questions are a bit harder than the real thing.

The NCBE has released 4 sets of 100 question exams called the OPE. Those exams were from 2006, 2009, 2011 and 2013. They are not that different from the older MBE questions. Adaptibar's questions are not exclusively from the 90s. You can get 90s exams for free on the NCBE website and are posted on barbri's website.

http://www.ncbex.org/about-ncbe-exams/m ... r-the-mbe/

Also if you look on the first page next to the barbri's copyright in their MBQ book they state that they modified a bunch of NCBE questions from 1990 in constructing their full day exam so they can't be THAT different.

[mvpforme]

I know that this has been discussed before, but for past bar takers -- did you feel that BarBri's practice MBE questions were enough, or should I spring for a supplementary source like the Emanuel book? FWIW, I'm scoring about average or slightly above so far. I've heard some people say that the Emanuel questions were older and not as representative, while others have said that BarBri's questions are a bit harder than the real thing.

The NCBE has released 4 sets of 100 question exams called the OPE. Those exams were from 2006, 2009, 2011 and 2013. They are not that different from the older MBE questions. Adaptibar's questions are not exclusively from the 90s. You can get 90s exams for free on the NCBE website and are posted on barbri's website.

http://www.ncbex.org/about-ncbe-exams/m ... r-the-mbe/

Also if you look on the first page next to the barbri's copyright in their MBQ book they state that they modified a bunch of NCBE questions from 1990 in constructing their full day exam so they can't be THAT different.

You're assuming Barbri did not modify them to make them insanely difficult, which seems to be Barbri's MO.

[Helpful]

I know that this has been discussed before, but for past bar takers -- did you feel that BarBri's practice MBE questions were enough, or should I spring for a supplementary source like the Emanuel book? FWIW, I'm scoring about average or slightly above so far. I've heard some people say that the Emanuel questions were older and not as representative, while others have said that BarBri's questions are a bit harder than the real thing.

The NCBE has released 4 sets of 100 question exams called the OPE. Those exams were from 2006, 2009, 2011 and 2013. They are not that different from the older MBE questions. Adaptibar's questions are not exclusively from the 90s. You can get 90s exams for free on the NCBE website and are posted on barbri's website.

http://www.ncbex.org/about-ncbe-exams/m ... r-the-mbe/

Also if you look on the first page next to the barbri's copyright in their MBQ book they state that they modified a bunch of NCBE questions from 1990 in constructing their full day exam so they can't be THAT different.

Didn't know about this. Thank you. Would it be unreasonable to use those older free questions there? NCBE has a disclaimer saying the law/question style may have changed, but I'm glancing at a few of them and they don't look very different from the BarBri questions.

[AJS30]

I just bought the Emanuel book. Living at home to study so this isn't the thing to cheap out on for me.
I'll let you know how they go (although I won't start them until I finish the studysmarts, I think)

I bought both Emanuel books. In regards to how helpful they are, I think people like them for their explanations. For example in the 5th edition, the explanations for one question can be like a page long ( which is time consuming). I decided to download the free MBE's from the internet, like the 98 one. As I started to do them, I realized they were all the questions from the Emanuel book. So if you want to save money and just want the questions to practice, just download those tests from the internet. However, if you want the explanations and think it would be helpful to you, it wouldn't hurt to get the book.

The only thing I'm curious about is that people give it such great reviews on amazon how the book was spot on, but then there are the disclaimers on those free tests you can download that these are older questions and may not reflect current questions.....maybe that's just a lie?