Themis Bar Review Hangout - July 2014 Exam Forum

[bport hopeful]

What needs to be taken into account during a partition hearing?

Maintenance and repair, taxes, and rent taken in on the property?

But not income taken from a business that was run on the property by a tenant in common?

[Tanicius]

What needs to be taken into account during a partition hearing?

Maintenance and repair, taxes, and rent taken in on the property?

But not income taken from a business that was run on the property by a tenant in common?

I think there are some equitable factors too, like whether it's a property that can be feasibly divided. If it's a single garage, it's difficult to argue in favor of partition. Or if it's some old lady's house she needs to survive, again, how would you split it in half? From what I've seen, questions usually specify in the facts that partitioning it will be feasible.

[Prime]

Out of curiosity, what percentage of the course have you guys completed as of now? I'm at 85%.

86%. I sure don't feel like I know 86% of this stuff of the material!

[numbertwo88]

Does anyone have a property/mortgage miracle solution? None of the explanations are good enough and by good enough I mean broken down into commonsense language my 11 year old sister would understand

Because I need one.

[bport hopeful]

What needs to be taken into account during a partition hearing?

Maintenance and repair, taxes, and rent taken in on the property?

But not income taken from a business that was run on the property by a tenant in common?

I think there are some equitable factors too, like whether it's a property that can be feasibly divided. If it's a single garage, it's difficult to argue in favor of partition. Or if it's some old lady's house she needs to survive, again, how would you split it in half? From what I've seen, questions usually specify in the facts that partitioning it will be feasible.

Thank you. I meant once it is determined that a partition is going to take place, when dividing assets and interests.

[puttycake]

Does anyone have a property/mortgage miracle solution? None of the explanations are good enough and by good enough I mean broken down into commonsense language my 11 year old sister would understand

Because I need one.

I thought this was really useful: http://books.google.com/books?id=oc8-nR ... rs&f=false

[ihatethebar]

I'm at 28% complete. This is not going to go well.

Are you studying part time? What state? You could probably skip all the videos (~20% of the program) and still be fine as long as you are good at memorizing outlines. You could also skip many of the minor subjects and still do decent. Really, as long as you are doing well on the MBE you'll have a 50/50 shot no matter what. Most of the MBE material is taught in 1L courses. So that helps also.

No excuse on the studying just poor planning and lack of responsibility. I made the call to go with lectures over outlines since I figured the videos playing would give me a steadier clip of completion than reading (slow reader) but not sure if that really wound up helping me out. Pretty much committed on that though, and I guess outlines on the really core NY material (corps, wills, family).

Thanks for the encouragement though (and to iLoveFruits&Veggies as well). It'll be a rough week but I feel like I still have a shot. Not a great one, but a shot.

I'm in a similar boat, currently at 44%. Hoping to hit 65% by the bar. Finishing last video this afternoon and then nothing but practice practice practice. Evidence seems like a foreign language but the others aren't too bad. Fingers crossed...

[j1987]

Did we ever get an answer as to whether the actual MBE questions are easier/harder than what we've been getting from Themis? I know a friend of mine said they were similar, but I didn't know if anyone else had further proof.

I'm still most worried about the essays.

[dtl]

Anyone have any insight as to whether we should know about mortgage holders "in due course" and personal/real defenses to mortgages?

Other classes seem to go into them a lot, but Themis has a 4 line paragraph and that is it.

[071816]

Out of curiosity, what percentage of the course have you guys completed as of now? I'm at 85%.

86%. I sure don't feel like I know 86% of this stuff of the material!

I'm with you there. I feel like I understand everything fairly well and I'm doing fine on the MBEs (for the most part), but I'm still scared shitless that I haven't memorized enough. I've never taken a closed-book essay exam so I hope I don't blank on the law for any of the essays.

[bport hopeful]

Hey guys, just took a practice essay where I knew nothing. Ill let you guys know how it goes so you have an idea for what "worse case scenario" entails.

[numbertwo88]

Reading portions of the long outline for problem MBE areas has been a God send but it takes up so much time. So. Much. Time.

[kapital98]

Humblebrag: I just got back my graded MPT and got a 94 overall

Now, if only the entire test was the MPT.... My MBE scores are still mediocre (at best) and rule memorization is poor.

[lawyerwannabe]

How should a person feel about their simulated MBE score? Like what range for: (1) terrified; (2) ok; (3) good; (4) thrilled?

[Lilly76]

Humblebrag: I just got back my graded MPT and got a 94 overall

Now, if only the entire test was the MPT.... My MBE scores are still mediocre (at best) and rule memorization is poor.

Congrats! I'm banking on the PT to help make up for mediocre essays.

[kapital98]

How should a person feel about their simulated MBE score? Like what range for: (1) terrified; (2) ok; (3) good; (4) thrilled?

For me: <60% = terrified; 65% = good. >70% = thrilled. The MBE is 40% of the grade in NY.

Unrelated: Whoever made the summary outline for NY Family Law did an awful job. It's 20 pages long.

[jigglypuffdreams]

How should a person feel about their simulated MBE score? Like what range for: (1) terrified; (2) ok; (3) good; (4) thrilled?

I like Kapital's numbers for the most part, but I guess for me it would be less than 50% for terrified, 50-60% for okay, 60-70% for good, and 70% plus for thrilled. But that's taking into account that you have time to practice and see what went wrong in between the simulated MBE and actual exam.

[Prime]

Out of curiosity, what percentage of the course have you guys completed as of now? I'm at 85%.

86%. I sure don't feel like I know 86% of this stuff of the material!

I'm with you there. I feel like I understand everything fairly well and I'm doing fine on the MBEs (for the most part), but I'm still scared shitless that I haven't memorized enough. I've never taken a closed-book essay exam so I hope I don't blank on the law for any of the essays.

i'm in a similar boat as you. I 'know' the stuff but being able to verbalize it and get it out on paper? That's the part I'm worried about.

On the plus side, my MBE has shot up about 10% during the past two weeks. Consistently hitting in the 65%-72% range. Starting to see vast improvements in areas such as real property but torts has been all over the place.

[Prime]

How should a person feel about their simulated MBE score? Like what range for: (1) terrified; (2) ok; (3) good; (4) thrilled?

For me: <60% = terrified; 65% = good. >70% = thrilled. The MBE is 40% of the grade in NY.

Unrelated: Whoever made the summary outline for NY Family Law did an awful job. It's 20 pages long.

Same value as Texas. I'm feel 'good' at the moment.

[lawyerwannabe]

How should a person feel about their simulated MBE score? Like what range for: (1) terrified; (2) ok; (3) good; (4) thrilled?

I like Kapital's numbers for the most part, but I guess for me it would be less than 50% for terrified, 50-60% for okay, 60-70% for good, and 70% plus for thrilled. But that's taking into account that you have time to practice and see what went wrong in between the simulated MBE and actual exam.

I got a 139 and am devoting only two more days to MBE between now and the first day of the exam. I guess I feel OK. LOL.

On to NY law!

[bport hopeful]

How should a person feel about their simulated MBE score? Like what range for: (1) terrified; (2) ok; (3) good; (4) thrilled?

I like Kapital's numbers for the most part, but I guess for me it would be less than 50% for terrified, 50-60% for okay, 60-70% for good, and 70% plus for thrilled. But that's taking into account that you have time to practice and see what went wrong in between the simulated MBE and actual exam.

I got a 139 and am devoting only two more days to MBE between now and the first day of the exam. I guess I feel OK. LOL.

On to NY law!

NY law will be the death of me. Evidence.

[bport hopeful]

I bit the bullet today and started watching the simulated mbe videos. Watched the first two, took about two hours. Had gotten several 72%s in a row. Next one was 76. Might be correlated.

I feel better about the info though, and Ill be finishing the videos.

[071816]

I bit the bullet today and started watching the simulated mbe videos. Watched the first two, took about two hours. Had gotten several 72%s in a row. Next one was 76. Might be correlated.

I feel better about the info though, and Ill be finishing the videos.

You're a good kid.

[Prime]

I bit the bullet today and started watching the simulated mbe videos. Watched the first two, took about two hours. Had gotten several 72%s in a row. Next one was 76. Might be correlated.

I feel better about the info though, and Ill be finishing the videos.

I actually watched them as well and found some 'positives' in the video. Played it at 1.5 speed and jumped around to questions that I got wrong. I know when I'm reading outlines/answer keys, my eyes tend to glaze so every little bit helps.

My evidence/property scores have gone up quite a bit since the simulated MBE and the subsequent review. Gotta be something in there!

[SilverE2]

Out of curiosity, what percentage of the course have you guys completed as of now? I'm at 85%.

I'm at 74%, but that's because I've taken time off of Themis assigned stuff to outline all of the state-specific subjects, as that's the only way I feel I'll learn them, and to go back and review all of the MBE questions I've gotten wrong. I'll probably end up somewhere in the low to mid 80s by test day, which I'm okay with. Also, a ton of what I haven't done is essays, and I've been killing the graded essays, so I'm fine with not doing close to all of the practice ones.