MBE July 16' reaction Forum

[bluewin888]

Lots of mortgage, civil and criminal pro, evidence.

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised.

(Not a Comcast user)

[ucc2207]

Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.

I couldn't find some of the relevant MEE answers even while actively looking for them. It's a weird comfort to be like "there was zero chance I was ever going to be able that that's the relevant law."

Don't think it's weird at all. There's comfort waking up in the morning and saying you did all you could and it was out of your control. The consensus always was Barbri gives you too much work. Barbri over preps you.

There was never an argument that Barbri could possibly not cover what was on the exam. No one can say you were foolish or lazy for relying on Barbri. You did all you could and did what you were supposed to do and that should be comforting.

[blaze1306]

HOLY CRAP those seemed hard. My afternoon session was ok but the morning session was BRUTAL!!!! What the hell? I thought the essays were relatively easy... no hidden issues or crazy topics but man I am blown away with how hard the MBE was.

[anacharsis]

Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.

[MCFC]

Honestly our reactions are probably pretty typical. The weird questions are always going to stand out. We're fine.

[Obama2016]

Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.

I thought the same, and so did many others I spoke to. Just take some comfort in knowing that most of us took Barbri (about 70% according to Barbri's numbers), and the exam is curved. Either way, hoping for the best because that's about all we can do until November. Cheers.

[speed_the_loot]

Evidence, Torts, K, and Crim were mostly similar to Barbri, imo.

Handful of off-the-wall con law and real property questions.

Agree that civ pro was way different.

[mvp99]

Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.

I thought the same, and so did many others I spoke to. Just take some comfort in knowing that most of us took Barbri (about 70% according to Barbri's numbers), and the exam is curved. Either way, hoping for the best because that's about all we can do until November. Cheers.

I think it might have some effect on equatinf but the fact that 70% took barbri is will not have a substantial effect. they are equating the scores and we're competing against everyone who ever took the exam.

[mvp99]

[mvp99]

[philepistemer]

Anyone else get a SHIT TON of "d" answers in one of their collums? Plz.

Thank fucking god

[mavshoosiers]

i also had a lot of b's. d's and b's were coming up everywhere for me...

[whitecollar23]

Maybe I'm in the minority with this, but I thought the morning was harder across the board and that the afternoon was more of a split. It has many easier questions, but way more super difficult "WTF" questions.

[whitecollar23]

i also had a lot of b's. d's and b's were coming up everywhere for me...

Very yes. I ended up getting a bunch of c's toward the end of the last column. Talking about the afternoon, that is.

[Kragoth180]

Are the 10 experimental questions included in one's score calculation? For example, if you get them right, do you get the points?

[LionelHutzJD]

I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.

[ucc2207]

I thought the same, and so did many others I spoke to. Just take some comfort in knowing that most of us took Barbri (about 70% according to Barbri's numbers), and the exam is curved. Either way, hoping for the best because that's about all we can do until November. Cheers.[/quote]
I think it might have some effect but the fact that 70% took barbri is will not have a substantial effect. they are equating the scores and we're competing against everyone who ever took the exam.[/quote]

This is the issue. This isn't like your 1L contracts exam where no one spotted an issue, and it just had no impact. From my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, this isn't a true curve. It's somewhat curved, but they are comparing us to past examinees. This is why the pass rate drops. if it was a true curve wouldn't the pass rate stay fairly constant?

I know some people are saying everyone always feels like this after the bar but idk. I mean on that last mixed set for barbri i scored well over 90%; and pretty much was guessing between two options on the majority of the questions today. Moreover, there was almost 0 overlap from that final mixed set and the questions we saw today. And this is just the MBE part.

What about the MEE section? I feel terrible for the guy running efficient bar prep because he was riding a wave of support, and I could have done a better job picking the topics out of a hat. He obviously only had every incentive to have a correct prediction, and no one could have predicted not only the topics on the MEE but also the obscure and unsettled areas of the law that were tested.

I really feel like this UBE was a unicorn of an exam and really has shaken things up. Does anyone else agree? I may be overblowing it, but I'm not sure that I am.

[whitecollar23]

I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.

Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?

[ucc2207]

i also had a lot of b's. d's and b's were coming up everywhere for me...

Very yes. I ended up getting a bunch of c's toward the end of the last column. Talking about the afternoon, that is.

Exact same as you, chickened out and changed one of my D's last minute- i know i changed it to the wrong answer in hindsight but time was called. Barbri just never had more than three of the same letters in a row, and usually if you had three in a row- one was wrong with barbri.

[arklaw13]

I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.

Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?

Sneaky as in Plaintiff was trying to remove

[LionelHutzJD]

I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.

Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?

Sneaky as in Plaintiff was trying to remove

Yessir

[whitecollar23]

I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.

Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?

Sneaky as in Plaintiff was trying to remove

Did that change the reason for why it wasn't allowed?

Mods: Is this abstract enough?

[FeraFera]

Honestly our reactions are probably pretty typical. The weird questions are always going to stand out. We're fine.

They are. Post mbe responses are on repeat exam after exam. Right down to the why did you do this to us barbri complaints.

[whitecollar23]

LOL @ how deceivingly easy OPE-4 is compared to the actual MBE questions.