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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by bluewin888 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:15 pm

Lots of mortgage, civil and criminal pro, evidence.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:16 pm

ucc2207 wrote: Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised.
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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by ucc2207 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:17 pm

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ucc2207 wrote:Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.
I couldn't find some of the relevant MEE answers even while actively looking for them. It's a weird comfort to be like "there was zero chance I was ever going to be able that that's the relevant law."
Don't think it's weird at all. There's comfort waking up in the morning and saying you did all you could and it was out of your control. The consensus always was Barbri gives you too much work. Barbri over preps you.

There was never an argument that Barbri could possibly not cover what was on the exam. No one can say you were foolish or lazy for relying on Barbri. You did all you could and did what you were supposed to do and that should be comforting.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by blaze1306 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:19 pm

HOLY CRAP those seemed hard. My afternoon session was ok but the morning session was BRUTAL!!!! What the hell? I thought the essays were relatively easy... no hidden issues or crazy topics but man I am blown away with how hard the MBE was.
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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by anacharsis » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:22 pm

ucc2207 wrote:Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by MCFC » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:27 pm

Honestly our reactions are probably pretty typical. The weird questions are always going to stand out. We're fine.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by Obama2016 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:29 pm

ucc2207 wrote:Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.
I thought the same, and so did many others I spoke to. Just take some comfort in knowing that most of us took Barbri (about 70% according to Barbri's numbers), and the exam is curved. Either way, hoping for the best because that's about all we can do until November. Cheers.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by speed_the_loot » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:31 pm

Evidence, Torts, K, and Crim were mostly similar to Barbri, imo.

Handful of off-the-wall con law and real property questions.

Agree that civ pro was way different.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by mvp99 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:32 pm

Obama2016 wrote:
ucc2207 wrote:Honestly, just blown away by how off target Barbri was about pretty much every part about this exam except the MPT. They could not have done a worse job emphasizing what's important and what's not. Civ Pro- they were completely off. Con Law- good thing we did so much first amendment right? Evidence- MBE was Harder. Contracts- i'm unsure about. Torts- thought was fair. Crim- Barbri needs to reevaluate this subject completely.

But they won't change, they'll keep producing a subpar product and billing firms and people who don't know any better. Aren't they planning on using these same materials for the February 2017 test?

Really I can't remember a time where I thought a service was so inferior to what was promised. I mean they make law school look like the bargain of a life time.

Sorry for the venting, hope everyone got through it okay and did well! Want nothing more than the people who put the time in to get a passing score.
I thought the same, and so did many others I spoke to. Just take some comfort in knowing that most of us took Barbri (about 70% according to Barbri's numbers), and the exam is curved. Either way, hoping for the best because that's about all we can do until November. Cheers.
I think it might have some effect on equatinf but the fact that 70% took barbri is will not have a substantial effect. they are equating the scores and we're competing against everyone who ever took the exam.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by mvp99 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:34 pm

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by philepistemer » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:34 pm

generaltoast wrote:Anyone else get a SHIT TON of "d" answers in one of their collums? Plz.
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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by mavshoosiers » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:38 pm

i also had a lot of b's. d's and b's were coming up everywhere for me...

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by whitecollar23 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:40 pm

Maybe I'm in the minority with this, but I thought the morning was harder across the board and that the afternoon was more of a split. It has many easier questions, but way more super difficult "WTF" questions.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by whitecollar23 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:41 pm

mavshoosiers wrote:i also had a lot of b's. d's and b's were coming up everywhere for me...
Very yes. I ended up getting a bunch of c's toward the end of the last column. Talking about the afternoon, that is.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by Kragoth180 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:46 pm

Are the 10 experimental questions included in one's score calculation? For example, if you get them right, do you get the points?

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by LionelHutzJD » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:47 pm

I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by ucc2207 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:47 pm

I thought the same, and so did many others I spoke to. Just take some comfort in knowing that most of us took Barbri (about 70% according to Barbri's numbers), and the exam is curved. Either way, hoping for the best because that's about all we can do until November. Cheers.[/quote]
I think it might have some effect but the fact that 70% took barbri is will not have a substantial effect. they are equating the scores and we're competing against everyone who ever took the exam.[/quote]

This is the issue. This isn't like your 1L contracts exam where no one spotted an issue, and it just had no impact. From my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, this isn't a true curve. It's somewhat curved, but they are comparing us to past examinees. This is why the pass rate drops. if it was a true curve wouldn't the pass rate stay fairly constant?

I know some people are saying everyone always feels like this after the bar but idk. I mean on that last mixed set for barbri i scored well over 90%; and pretty much was guessing between two options on the majority of the questions today. Moreover, there was almost 0 overlap from that final mixed set and the questions we saw today. And this is just the MBE part.

What about the MEE section? I feel terrible for the guy running efficient bar prep because he was riding a wave of support, and I could have done a better job picking the topics out of a hat. He obviously only had every incentive to have a correct prediction, and no one could have predicted not only the topics on the MEE but also the obscure and unsettled areas of the law that were tested.

I really feel like this UBE was a unicorn of an exam and really has shaken things up. Does anyone else agree? I may be overblowing it, but I'm not sure that I am.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by whitecollar23 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:49 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.
Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by ucc2207 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:49 pm

whitecollar23 wrote:
mavshoosiers wrote:i also had a lot of b's. d's and b's were coming up everywhere for me...
Very yes. I ended up getting a bunch of c's toward the end of the last column. Talking about the afternoon, that is.
Exact same as you, chickened out and changed one of my D's last minute- i know i changed it to the wrong answer in hindsight but time was called. Barbri just never had more than three of the same letters in a row, and usually if you had three in a row- one was wrong with barbri.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by arklaw13 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:51 pm

whitecollar23 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.
Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?
Sneaky as in Plaintiff was trying to remove

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by LionelHutzJD » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:52 pm

arklaw13 wrote:
whitecollar23 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.
Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?
Sneaky as in Plaintiff was trying to remove
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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by whitecollar23 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:52 pm

arklaw13 wrote:
whitecollar23 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:I honestly do not remember if I had a string of any one letter. Not so many As I think though.

I also really liked the sneaky removal question.
Sneaky? It seemed pretty straightforward unless I overlooked something?
Sneaky as in Plaintiff was trying to remove
Did that change the reason for why it wasn't allowed?

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by FeraFera » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:53 pm

MCFC wrote:Honestly our reactions are probably pretty typical. The weird questions are always going to stand out. We're fine.
They are. Post mbe responses are on repeat exam after exam. Right down to the why did you do this to us barbri complaints.

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Re: MBE July 16' reaction

Post by whitecollar23 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:55 pm

LOL @ how deceivingly easy OPE-4 is compared to the actual MBE questions.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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