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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by L_William_W » Mon May 02, 2016 8:37 pm

Njbar wrote:What is raw essay score for a 136 scaled score? I think feb curve is aleays lower than july. Also I noticed that NJ always give lower score when they regrad essays. :(
I don't know the exact formula, but I look at it this way: If your MBE was less than 125 then there's no way in hell that you'll pass. If your MBE was between 125 and 130 then your AVERAGE essay score would have to be a 4 or higher. If your MBE was between 130 and ~140 then you could afford to mess up on one or two essays, but the majority of your essays would have to be 4 or higher. If your MBE was above 140 then you'd have to average a 3 on the essays to pass (in the February 2015 exam that I flunked, my average essay score was a 3. That was converted to 127.8 ). If your MBE was above 150 then you could mess up on each essay (2 average) and still pass.

Of course, this is just an ESTIMATE

If you didn't pass, don't feel bad about it. Any law school graduate can pass the NJ bar (I got 3 D's in law school and passed in July). You just simply have to know how to game the system. Like I said before, the NJ questions are hard but predictable. Simply look at every essay you can get your hands on and then regurgitate the answers on the actual exam.

The names of the characters in the fact patterns may change, but the scenarios are usually the same (Example: two guys robbing a bank and inadvertently committing murder, then an illegal search; a machine malfunctions and injures someone and/or someone does something stupid and injures someone, but there's a defense such as the danger wasn't foreseeable; a plaintiff was denied a constitutional right; two parties have a dispute about whether an easement existed; a person who traveled through a state where they don't live in but regularly visits to conduct business disputes whether there's personal or subject matter jurisdiction, ...).

I HIGHLY recommend taking the July 2016 NJ Bar. Take it NOW before they make it much more difficult with the UBE in February 2017.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FDR6 » Tue May 03, 2016 9:59 am

Contacted the bar examiners last week--they said very soon. Contacted them today and asked if there was any chance the results would be released today, they said no. Then the lady said but we don't find out until the day before the results are released. So no one has any clue.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FallonJ » Tue May 03, 2016 10:56 am

FDR6 wrote:Contacted the bar examiners last week--they said very soon. Contacted them today and asked if there was any chance the results would be released today, they said no. Then the lady said but we don't find out until the day before the results are released. So no one has any clue.
Ugh! It's really a shame that we pay so much money to sit this exam and we can't even get a release date.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FDR6 » Tue May 03, 2016 11:18 am

Btw meant to say I asked them if the results would be released this week and they said no

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by law732 » Tue May 03, 2016 11:22 pm

FDR6 wrote:Btw meant to say I asked them if the results would be released this week and they said no
So the rumors about this week aren't true?? :cry:

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by sdimo » Wed May 04, 2016 12:39 pm

ehh. i doubt they would tell you the release date even if they knew it. that's giving away the power! plus, there'd be a million calls to the office

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FallonJ » Wed May 04, 2016 1:33 pm

If they don't come out this week, that will be latest they've been released in recent years- correct?

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by sdimo » Wed May 04, 2016 1:36 pm

FallonJ wrote:If they don't come out this week, that will be latest they've been released in recent years- correct?
i believe so. the last two years, they released on the 8th and 9th, which both fell on Friday in those years.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by jr6 » Wed May 04, 2016 1:45 pm

sdimo wrote:
FallonJ wrote:If they don't come out this week, that will be latest they've been released in recent years- correct?
i believe so. the last two years, they released on the 8th and 9th, which both fell on Friday in those years.
FWIW, I think they came out on the 5th last year.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FallonJ » Wed May 04, 2016 3:13 pm

Results are in. You can log in and check on your accounts!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by law732 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:18 pm

Passed!! MBE was 156.7!!! Repeater from July - MBE was 123.8.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FallonJ » Wed May 04, 2016 3:34 pm

law732 wrote:Passed!! MBE was 156.7!!! Repeater from July - MBE was 123.8.
Wow! Congrats! That's a great increase! You give me hope. I didn't pass. First-time taker!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by law732 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:38 pm

FallonJ wrote:
law732 wrote:Passed!! MBE was 156.7!!! Repeater from July - MBE was 123.8.
Wow! Congrats! That's a great increase! You give me hope. I didn't pass. First-time taker!
You can do it. Go all in with the MBE. I focused about 90% MBE 10% essay. If you put in the time you WILL pass!! PM me with any questions. Good luck to all!!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by alba0321 » Wed May 04, 2016 3:53 pm

PASSED!! Repeater from July when I scored 119 on the MBE. 144.9 this time around!!!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by sdimo » Wed May 04, 2016 3:55 pm

congrats to the passers! i was a first time taker, working 10 hour days while studying and sadly, i failed by 2 points. i'll be retaking NJ in july.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FallonJ » Wed May 04, 2016 3:56 pm

alba0321 wrote:PASSED!! Repeater from July when I scored 119 on the MBE. 144.9 this time around!!!
Congrats! What did you do differently to increase your MBE score?

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by FallonJ » Wed May 04, 2016 3:57 pm

sdimo wrote:congrats to the passers! i was a first time taker, working 10 hour days while studying and sadly, i failed by 2 points. i'll be retaking NJ in july.
Sorry to hear. I failed by 2 points as well. We got this next time around!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by sdimo » Wed May 04, 2016 3:58 pm

did anyone use adaptibar? looks like my 125 mbe is where i hit the wall, and i'm thinking i could use all the practice possible for MBEs.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by alba0321 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:05 pm

FallonJ wrote:
alba0321 wrote:PASSED!! Repeater from July when I scored 119 on the MBE. 144.9 this time around!!!
Congrats! What did you do differently to increase your MBE score?

Thank you!! I focused nearly all my time on the MBE. I used Kaplan and did so many practice MBE questions on their app, regardless of where I was. Seriously, so many practice questions. I only did a few essays. I wrote out my own outlines from the lectures and pared them down (somewhat following the one-sheet advice).

Also, in July I had a newborn and was not working on very much sleep. This time around, I had a full time job and a baby, but more sleep. I kept to a strict schedule of exercising before work and studying 3-4 hours every weeknight and 6-8 hours on the weekends.

Biggest thing to work on is your confidence. Believe you can pass. When you're feeling unmotivated, envision the overwhelming joy and flood of relief of finding out you passed.

Sorry, I'm rambling - still shaking from the news!!

Good luck and let me know if you need any help!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by Stressedout2016 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:06 pm

So I wanted to share what I did to pass on the second try for the NY bar exam and the first try for the NJ bar exam. I admit that I wasn't prepared on my first attempt because I was working full-time (took only 2.5 weeks off before the exam), skipped many NY lectures that Kaplan had in their course and was studying on my own. I thought I knew what I was doing but apparently not when I received my scores.

My second time around, I quit my job, signed up with a private tutor, listened to ALL of Kaplan's lectures, bought Critical Pass Flash Cards and signed up with Adaptibar. This time around, I had the TIME I needed to study. I listened to ALL the lectures from Kaplan, I did about 50 MBE questions everyday, and I did a lot of reviewing of past essays. In addition, I had a tutor who went over my essays and MPTs; he was a life saver.

Basically, there's no easy way to study for the bar; the straight forward answer is you have to study, ALOT, and put in a lot of TIME. I was studying everyday for 3 months from 7AM to 7PM. I focused on my weaknesses, essays, and strengthen what I was good at, MBE; I went from a 132 to a 144 on it.

You'll have to sacrifice your personal time and treat studying for the bar as your life but it's definitely rewarding; I would recommend praying a lot too. lol If anybody has any questions, let me know. Good luck!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by Jewelgirl4 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:11 pm

I received my e-mail and my heart rate instantly jumped to 115 BPM as per my Fitbit, but I am pleased to say that I passed with a 134.5 MBE!

This was my second time taking the test, having failed the July 2015 examination.
sdimo wrote:did anyone use adaptibar? looks like my 125 mbe is where i hit the wall, and i'm thinking i could use all the practice possible for MBEs.
I'm so sorry to hear that you did not pass. I initially scored 121.9 on my MBE in July and failed by way more than I'd like to say. I started using Adaptibar as soon as I started studying and then purchased the lectures halfway through. I can honestly attribute my passing score to the use of both.

The lectures (with Jonathan Grossman) are outstanding. He really explains everything in a way that is easily digested and remembered and he gives a lot of tips/tricks for how to approach each type of question and keywords to look for. It reminded me a lot of SAT prep in that way, which was a good thing! This substantially helped my MBE score and my essays. I can only imagine that my score would have been even better if I'd been watching these lectures from the get-go.

I should also mention that I studied while working full time at a law firm in NYC and I would listen to the lectures on my commute in and out of the city, which added an extra 2-3 hours of study time per day. So I never felt guilty if I came home too tired to do more than 10 Adaptibar questions.

I focused on one subject to listen to repeatedly per week and then did about 150 questions in that area on Adaptibar over the weekend until I had covered all of the subjects. I then did 200 mixed questions over the course of that 8th week and took a practice exam that weekend. The results of that practice exam showed me where I was weak and so I went back and rewatched the lectures for those subtopics and did questions in those subtopics, as well. Then I went back to mixed questions for the remainder of the exam.

I did not do any full blown practice essays. Rather, for the last two weeks, I'd look at a prompt and do a brief outline (maybe 15 minutes) of what I'd include in my answer. Then I read the sample essays. This helped me practice style and format, while familiarizing myself with frequently tested issues and hypos. I can't tell you what I got on my essays, but I suspect it was a pretty high score as I walked out of the exam knowing I had all of the law down COLD for my responses.


I honestly SWEAR by Adaptibar. It isn't cheap (though cheaper than a bar prep course is traditionally), but it's worth every penny.

I think I have a referral code for $50, so please let me know if you'd like it. Won't be offended if you don't.

Bottom line: USE ADAPTIBAR. I couldn't have passed without it.
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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by sdimo » Wed May 04, 2016 4:16 pm

thank you both for the feedback. i was working fulltime, and studying and listening to lectures. I got through all the lectures, but honestly, i don't think I had time to practice more than maybe 300mbes. I did maybe 3 essays for practice. I think the lectures slowed down the whole process, but I graduated back in 2014 so I really didn't remember much anyway. I'm glad to hear adaptibar helped out, because that's what i'm going with!! I'm going to practice a ton more problems this time around but I unfortunately don't have the ability to take off work, rent & bills! I had my cry in the firm bathroom lol, but i'm ready to get back to work and have some fun! if two points is all i need, I can manage that. congrats again, all!

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by Jewelgirl4 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:18 pm

sdimo wrote:thank you both for the feedback. i was working fulltime, and studying and listening to lectures. I got through all the lectures, but honestly, i don't think I had time to practice more than maybe 300mbes. I did maybe 3 essays for practice. I think the lectures slowed down the whole process, but I graduated back in 2014 so I really didn't remember much anyway. I'm glad to hear adaptibar helped out, because that's what i'm going with!! I'm going to practice a ton more problems this time around but I unfortunately don't have the ability to take off work, rent & bills! I had my cry in the firm bathroom lol, but i'm ready to get back to work and have some fun! if two points is all i need, I can manage that. congrats again, all!
I just edited my above answer in detail more of how I approached studying while working full time, as I see you will be under similar circumstances. It was a struggle and I took the two weeks before the exam off, but I did it. And if I could do it, so can you.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by sdimo » Wed May 04, 2016 4:30 pm

Jewelgirl4 wrote:
sdimo wrote:thank you both for the feedback. i was working fulltime, and studying and listening to lectures. I got through all the lectures, but honestly, i don't think I had time to practice more than maybe 300mbes. I did maybe 3 essays for practice. I think the lectures slowed down the whole process, but I graduated back in 2014 so I really didn't remember much anyway. I'm glad to hear adaptibar helped out, because that's what i'm going with!! I'm going to practice a ton more problems this time around but I unfortunately don't have the ability to take off work, rent & bills! I had my cry in the firm bathroom lol, but i'm ready to get back to work and have some fun! if two points is all i need, I can manage that. congrats again, all!
I just edited my above answer in detail more of how I approached studying while working full time, as I see you will be under similar circumstances. It was a struggle and I took the two weeks before the exam off, but I did it. And if I could do it, so can you.

I definitely have similar situation lol. I work long hours +the commute which unfortunately is driving, but I listened to a lot of lectures and did some practice at work when I could last time around. I would LOVE an adaptibar code. I have been scoping them out for a few weeks, once I saw how abysmal these MBEs were with all those articles about lowest scores in 30 years. if I can get within two points studying less than a handful of hours a day before, I can kick myself into gear for the next one.

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Re: New Jersey Bar Exam February 2016

Post by Jewelgirl4 » Wed May 04, 2016 5:38 pm

sdimo wrote:
Jewelgirl4 wrote:
sdimo wrote:thank you both for the feedback. i was working fulltime, and studying and listening to lectures. I got through all the lectures, but honestly, i don't think I had time to practice more than maybe 300mbes. I did maybe 3 essays for practice. I think the lectures slowed down the whole process, but I graduated back in 2014 so I really didn't remember much anyway. I'm glad to hear adaptibar helped out, because that's what i'm going with!! I'm going to practice a ton more problems this time around but I unfortunately don't have the ability to take off work, rent & bills! I had my cry in the firm bathroom lol, but i'm ready to get back to work and have some fun! if two points is all i need, I can manage that. congrats again, all!
I just edited my above answer in detail more of how I approached studying while working full time, as I see you will be under similar circumstances. It was a struggle and I took the two weeks before the exam off, but I did it. And if I could do it, so can you.

I definitely have similar situation lol. I work long hours +the commute which unfortunately is driving, but I listened to a lot of lectures and did some practice at work when I could last time around. I would LOVE an adaptibar code. I have been scoping them out for a few weeks, once I saw how abysmal these MBEs were with all those articles about lowest scores in 30 years. if I can get within two points studying less than a handful of hours a day before, I can kick myself into gear for the next one.
Please feel free to message me and I'll gladly send it to you. if you can play your phone through your car, you can play the videos and just listen. I can't tell you how many times I put my earbuds in on the bus and closed my eyes, sometimes even fell asleep. But I still heard it and it still would register on sleepy days!

I really think Adaptibar is vastly more efficient and helpful than any traditional prep course.

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