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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by fadedsunrise » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:50 pm

Contracts and Civ Pro are dragging my average down :( I'm over the CA benchmark for all the other subjects but get lost in the facts for contracts and civ pro, don't immediately see an applicable rule, and then waste my time away.

155 questions, average 62.8%; 65% or better on other subjects, 30% on civ pro and 48% contracts. Should I drill just those two subjects? Go read a long outline? Do essays?

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by FinallyPassedTheBar » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:02 pm

fadedsunrise wrote:Contracts and Civ Pro are dragging my average down :( I'm over the CA benchmark for all the other subjects but get lost in the facts for contracts and civ pro, don't immediately see an applicable rule, and then waste my time away.

155 questions, average 62.8%; 65% or better on other subjects, 30% on civ pro and 48% contracts. Should I drill just those two subjects? Go read a long outline? Do essays?

MBE civ pro questions are hard as hell. Only way I increased my score was to keep doing them in mixed format with all the other questions. I saw improvement in my civ pro success rate after around 800 total questions completed.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by bluesplitter » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:46 am

Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Nevergiveup15 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:40 am

bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.

Well done, that's good going! I'm 650 questions in and only averaging 58% with 3 weeks to go :shock: :cry:

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:41 am

bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.
Awesome job, Splitter! You're gonna kill it! I've had to just reiterate to myself not to let myself get too cocky... Keep studying like I was in the beginning. That would probably scale to a 170 if you matched on the second half. Man, that would be sweet!

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by KTnKT » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:02 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.
Awesome job, Splitter! You're gonna kill it! I've had to just reiterate to myself not to let myself get too cocky... Keep studying like I was in the beginning. That would probably scale to a 170 if you matched on the second half. Man, that would be sweet!
How do you figure what that would scale to?

I've been doing 190 x .78(or applicable percentage made into a decimal)= 148.2 then adding 10-15 points for scaling. Is that wrong?

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:25 pm

KTnKT wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.
Awesome job, Splitter! You're gonna kill it! I've had to just reiterate to myself not to let myself get too cocky... Keep studying like I was in the beginning. That would probably scale to a 170 if you matched on the second half. Man, that would be sweet!
How do you figure what that would scale to?

I've been doing 190 x .78(or applicable percentage made into a decimal)= 148.2 then adding 10-15 points for scaling. Is that wrong?
No, you're 100% right. I was doing it out of 200 instead of 190. Regardless, even with a 160-165, barring absolute disaster on the essay/MEE portion of his test, he's golden.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:27 pm

Nevergiveup15 wrote:
bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.

Well done, that's good going! I'm 650 questions in and only averaging 58% with 3 weeks to go :shock: :cry:
650 questions is nothing... I started around that percentage and didn't start to see any serious improvement until I was probably 800ish questions in. You really start to pick up on patterns and solidify the law in your head by the point (assuming you're reading the explanatory answers... If not, start doing that IMMEDIATELY, because it's a huge help). Just for reference, I started around there when I started doing Adaptibar questions in the last week of October... I just took the BARBRI simulated MBE and got 159/200 raw, so it's absolutely possible to make serious improvements.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by bluesplitter » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:34 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
KTnKT wrote:
NY_Sea wrote:
bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.
Awesome job, Splitter! You're gonna kill it! I've had to just reiterate to myself not to let myself get too cocky... Keep studying like I was in the beginning. That would probably scale to a 170 if you matched on the second half. Man, that would be sweet!
How do you figure what that would scale to?

I've been doing 190 x .78(or applicable percentage made into a decimal)= 148.2 then adding 10-15 points for scaling. Is that wrong?
No, you're 100% right. I was doing it out of 200 instead of 190. Regardless, even with a 160-165, barring absolute disaster on the essay/MEE portion of his test, he's golden.


THanks guys, it really is encouraging, and thanks for the positive vibes!! I want to tell other people, like friends(not involved with law) and they wouldn't get why I am syked by the score.


But I wanna tell ya,....I am not too over confident.

I am still only getting about 50%-60% right on Themis questions. The main thing i see on Adaptibar vs Themis questions are the answers choices. Whereas, i can figure out why the answer choice is wrong in the Adaptibar/NCBE questions and lead to the "right answer"....
but not really on Themis questions, because three of the choices seem "right" but i cant find why they are "wrong" alot of the times.

I want to say, at the end of the exam that i did yesterday, I didn't "feel" that i did so well. All this points to making sure you look at the answer choices on why they wrong, then look for the "right" answer. i dont know.

It really is interesting. Open to any other feedback.


And also, it may be because I started studying for MBE on Nov. 13th. I have answered about 1600 questions on adaptibar, and have done three "exams" on the Adaptibar, consisting of 100 questions.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Nevergiveup15 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:44 pm

NY_Sea wrote:
Nevergiveup15 wrote:
bluesplitter wrote:Exam # 3 Reports


For this exam, you answered a total of 100 questions in 2 hours 46 minutes and 8 seconds.
On average, each question took you 1 minute and 39 seconds. You are spending less time than the 1.8
minutes allocated for each question. At this rate, you should have no problem completing the MBE on time.
Your overall accuracy rate for this exam is 78%.

Well done, that's good going! I'm 650 questions in and only averaging 58% with 3 weeks to go :shock: :cry:
650 questions is nothing... I started around that percentage and didn't start to see any serious improvement until I was probably 800ish questions in. You really start to pick up on patterns and solidify the law in your head by the point (assuming you're reading the explanatory answers... If not, start doing that IMMEDIATELY, because it's a huge help). Just for reference, I started around there when I started doing Adaptibar questions in the last week of October... I just took the BARBRI simulated MBE and got 159/200 raw, so it's absolutely possible to make serious improvements.
Thanks for the encouraging words NY_Sea. Yes, I have already started to see patterns which I have been jotting down for each subject so that I can read through them in the days leading up to the exam.

159/200 is a fantastic score - you should be pleased at this stage - I am yet to do a simulated MBE - will probably cross that bridge a week before ;-)

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by iwantmybar » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:38 pm

Problem with the exams on adpatibar is the repetition of the questions because when you answered all the questions, you are going to seem them again in the simulated exams.

Last july I took two sets (2008 and 2006 ) and scored respectively 77 and 74. I was very happy & confident.

I also scored 62 on both 2011 and 2013 tests a fews days before.

I scored 121 on the real test which, according to Seperac, meant I answered only 97 questions correctly.... :oops:

Truth is I was probably remembering a lot of the answers without actually understanding them deeply.. :?

Also, civ pro was not included.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:00 pm

iwantmybar wrote:Problem with the exams on adpatibar is the repetition of the questions because when you answered all the questions, you are going to seem them again in the simulated exams.

Last july I took two sets (2008 and 2006 ) and scored respectively 77 and 74. I was very happy & confident.

I also scored 62 on both 2011 and 2013 tests a fews days before.

I scored 121 on the real test which, according to Seperac, meant I answered only 97 questions correctly.... :oops:

Truth is I was probably remembering a lot of the answers without actually understanding them deeply.. :?

Also, civ pro was not included.
This is true... And it's also why I make sure I know the reasons for each question I got right and got wrong. As I'm going through the question I make mental notes (K formed here, Merchant + Written offer to hold open, Signed contract for land sale= possible equitable conversion/burden of risk, etc.)... As long as you do that, I think doing questions you have seen can really help solidify the reasons in your head.

For the ones you get wrong, it really boils down to what I've preached on here for a while... READ THE EXPLANATORY ANSWERS. Read them to know why you got a question wrong and read them to make sure you got a question right for the right reasons.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by trustmouse83 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:48 am

iwantmybar wrote:Problem with the exams on adpatibar is the repetition of the questions because when you answered all the questions, you are going to seem them again in the simulated exams.

Last july I took two sets (2008 and 2006 ) and scored respectively 77 and 74. I was very happy & confident.

I also scored 62 on both 2011 and 2013 tests a fews days before.

I scored 121 on the real test which, according to Seperac, meant I answered only 97 questions correctly.... :oops:

Truth is I was probably remembering a lot of the answers without actually understanding them deeply.. :?

Also, civ pro was not included.
Similar to me, I got an 83, an 80, and a couple of high 70's I think.

129 on the day.

As you say, Civ Pro killed me, too.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by iwantmybar » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:17 am

Trust mouse :

I answered a total of 1897 questions now on Adaptibar.

I just took the 2013 exam MBE on Adaptibar and scored 85/100 in 1 hour and 36 minutes.

It's pretty annoying since this score doesn't mean anything when you already done every single questions of the test. Moreover, civ pro was not included.

I'm probably going to stop with adaptibar and buy some babrri simulated exams or something.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by DueProcessDoWheelies » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:19 pm

Adaptibar's Civ Pro questions are CRAZY hard. Almost every question, overall percentage of students answering it correctly are <50%.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:30 pm

I'm at 1060 questions on Adaptibar and haven't done any of the OPE's yet.

After reading the last few posts, I dunno if I should even bother and just do the remaining Barbri practice tests instead.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:51 pm

THE_U wrote:I'm at 1060 questions on Adaptibar and haven't done any of the OPE's yet.

After reading the last few posts, I dunno if I should even bother and just do the remaining Barbri practice tests instead.
I would if you could... I've found that doing the adaptibar questions has helped me understand the law better and has probably led me to do exponentially better on the MPQs this time around.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by law732 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:13 pm

Hey all. July retaker here. Missed the MBE by 4 points but passed the state portion. Focusing exclusively on the MBE this time around. 1222 completed - 63%. Civ pro is my lowest on Adaptibar but oddly enough was my highest subject on the barbri simulated (125/200 overall).

Anyone finding it beneficial to redo the adaptibar questions once you completed all 1700, or is looking elsewhere for questions a better idea? The MBE in July looked nothing Barbri's qs (imo), so I'm trying to see if its worth it just to redo Adaptibar.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by iwantmybar » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:05 am

Well, even if i said that doing again the questions on adaptibar is annoying and kinda useless, NY_Sea is absolutely right when he says than even if you repeat the adaptibar questions it is still good because you will learn the black law as you do it.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by Readyfortheresults » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:43 am

Hey all. Throwing my hat in the ring here. Am a repeat taker. MBE was my weakness the first time. This time I've invested a lot of time into the Strategies and Tactics Emmanuel Book, then recently started Adaptibar. I'm 226 questions into it with a 65%. Just wanted to say hi to all. And good luck!

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Post by Sue » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:17 pm

Just did NCBE OPE4 (2013). Was able to finish in 2 hrs 33 mins, which is good for me because I have been struggling with time.

Got 80/100. Not sure though, I might have remembered few answers from practice questions I've done. Also, CivPro is not included :?

As to Barbri, I did only the Sim.exam, and got 125/200 raw. I am thinking to spend some time on Barbri sets next week.

Does anyone think it is worth the time, or I should stick with Adaptibar and memorizing the rules?

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:53 pm

Sue wrote:Just did NCBE OPE4 (2013). Was able to finish in 2 hrs 33 mins, which is good for me because I have been struggling with time.

Got 80/100. Not sure though, I might have remembered few answers from practice questions I've done. Also, CivPro is not included :?

As to Barbri, I did only the Sim.exam, and got 125/200 raw. I am thinking to spend some time on Barbri sets next week.

Does anyone think it is worth the time, or I should stick with Adaptibar and memorizing the rules?
I do a combination... I do 30 adaptibar questions a day (Only 22/30 today... Wish they would stop feeding me 10 Civ Pro questions a day lol) and then whatever, if anything, BARBRI assigns for MPQs. I think they both serve different purposes... Adaptibar questions get you comfortable with what (presumably) the questions are going to be like on test day. While BARBRI tests on pretty ticky tack stuff sometimes, which is also nice just in case the NCBE decides to go down that route on some questions.

At the end of the day though, they both serve a similar purpose as well... Practice. The practice you get from both is worth the expense of doing both, in my opinion. I'm firmly in the camp of "the more practice, the better", so I'll take whatever someone gives me. It can only reinforce rules in my head even further. I'm going to do the BARBRI half day at some point, because like others have said on here, I think the OPEs wouldn't be the most accurate gauge of where I really am.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:47 pm

At 1178 questions now and I'm starting to see a decent amount of repeats in my sets of 50 in exam mode. Not really sure why I am seeing as many as I'm seeing when I still have like 300-400 new questions available to do.

Doesn't seem like I get as many repeats in "practice question" mode, but I'd rather not go back to answering questions individually since I feel like I have a good grasp on all of the subjects at this point.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by THE_U » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:54 pm

Anyone do Property question #1149?

I understand the RAP violation here and got the question correct, but I don't understand part of Adaptibar's explanation.

Adaptibar claims that the interest which violates RAP is a contingent remainder, yet I don't see how that is the case. I thought that contingent remainders cannot cut short an estate, and must follow the natural expiration of it (i.e. contingent remainders go with life estates and not fee simple estates). Wouldn't the interest here be an executory interest, since it cuts short the estate upon the condition occurring? Also, I thought remainders by definition went to some 3rd party and not the grantor. I thought the future interest in a grantor was a reversion, right of reentry, and possibility of reverter?

OR is this neither of those and simply an "option to purchase," which is also subject to RAP?

I must be missing something and I apologize if I just made no sense whatsoever.

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Re: Average Adapti bar score

Post by NY_Sea » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:18 pm

THE_U wrote:Anyone do Property question #1149?

I understand the RAP violation here and got the question correct, but I don't understand part of Adaptibar's explanation.

Adaptibar claims that the interest which violates RAP is a contingent remainder, yet I don't see how that is the case. I thought that contingent remainders cannot cut short an estate, and must follow the natural expiration of it (i.e. contingent remainders go with life estates and not fee simple estates). Wouldn't the interest here be an executory interest, since it cuts short the estate upon the condition occurring? Also, I thought remainders by definition went to some 3rd party and not the grantor. I thought the future interest in a grantor was a reversion, right of reentry, and possibility of reverter?

OR is this neither of those and simply an "option to purchase," which is also subject to RAP?

I must be missing something and I apologize if I just made no sense whatsoever.
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