NY Bar Feb Exam: Support Group Forum

[nyny]

Almost 3 weeks into studying and I've at least looked over and started to do MBE Qs for Evidence, Ks, Torts, and Property... Stopped doing AMPs because I feel the way that BARBRI utilizes them makes no sense (do them BEFORE you watch the lectures?). Scoring low 60% in sporadic questions, but that seems to be getting better the more and more I read the outlines (which makes sense haha). How does everyone else do the outline/Qs balance? I think I'm going to start doing a system where I don't do Qs until I read through the outline 3 times.

What's everyone else's plan system for studying and doing practice Qs?

Amps are totally pointless, I attribute failing the exam to wasting so much time on trying to complete the entire barbri course that I did not study important things... Amps could easily take an hour and a half out of your day for no apparent reason.

Truth be told I would not even redo the lectures, that another 3 hours per day when you already have the notes from the last time you took the exam. So between the amps and lectures you wasting 4 hours that you truly do not have to waste. You have to study smarter not harder. Watching the lectures again will have you learn the materials again in a different way from a different professor.

As a repeater I used my old lecture notes, and issue spotted all 150 or so essays in the Barbri Model Essay book. Then I did about 3000 MBE's on Adaptibar. I know there are about 1800 adaptibar questions but I repeated a lot of them. That jumped my mbe from 126 to 148.

The bolded is what I did during my study prep and I passed. Study smarter, not harder.

Hi,
I took Barbri in preparation for the July Bar, but didn't pass. Did you read the Conviser or just the lecture notes? What did you do for the MPT? Thanks.

Sorry for the late response, but I did use the Conviser (which was the smaller outlines) and the larger NY Outlines from Barbri. I made sure I knew the NY laws cold though, mainly using my lecture notes.

For the MPT I looked at Barbri's MPT book about two weeks prior to the exam to learn what type of MPTs could be tested. But truth be told the MPT could be anything, even something we never seen. Just make sure you devote the entire 90 minutes they recommend for it (45 mins to read thoroughly and set it up, and then 45 mins to write). Its hard to do the MPT correctly in less than 90 mins.

Thanks! I really mismanaged my time and had less than 30m for the MPT. I relied on the Barbri lecture notes (except for Schechter's). Another mistake, but I learn from my errors!

Yea you have to have a strict game plan going into the exam, and stick to it. I had a different plan for NY day AM and PM. It makes sense because you get 15 more minutes in the AM then in the PM (3 hours 15 mins to 3 hours). I told myself in the morning I would not go over 50 mins per essay, which left me 45 mins for the NYMC. And if I go over on an essay I decrease it from my NYMC time, because I decided to do my essays first, to not frustrate myself with the difficult NYMC.

Then in the PM I made sure I started with the MPT, Devoted 90 mins to it, then 45 mins each for the last two essays, which for what ever reason always seems to call for less content than the AM 3 essays to me. But yea create your plan of execution early, and base your studies on how to execute it.

Maybe I'll save the NYMC for last this time. I've enrolled in Pieper's Early Start Review as I'm nervous about the essays and MPTs. Wondering whether to reactivate Adaptibar or get Kaplan's book.

Whatever works for you, they are both good, but I like the portability of Adaptibar, I can use it on my phone while standing in line ordering lunch. With the Kaplans Purplebook (I believe its no longer RedBook), you have to use the book.

[NY_Sea]

So, going through Adaptibar, I'm seeing a lot of repeat fact patterns. Not repeat questions, per se, but definitely repeat fact patterns. Can anyone who has repeated and used Adaptibar confirm that there is some overlap in fact patterns?

[starryski]

So, going through Adaptibar, I'm seeing a lot of repeat fact patterns. Not repeat questions, per se, but definitely repeat fact patterns. Can anyone who has repeated and used Adaptibar confirm that there is some overlap in fact patterns?

yes. i used adaptibar last time and many times i thought i was reading a question i had gotten before, only to find a twist or an important distinction in the facts.

[nyny]

So, going through Adaptibar, I'm seeing a lot of repeat fact patterns. Not repeat questions, per se, but definitely repeat fact patterns. Can anyone who has repeated and used Adaptibar confirm that there is some overlap in fact patterns?

Yes adaptibar repeats fact patterns, but there might be something slightly different to which leads to a different answer. They repeat the entire question and answer sometimes as well. It seems foolish to do the question more than once, but trust the process it works. The more you do the questions you notice little things which will increase your scores. Just trust the process.

[myrtlewinston]

What do you think of Adaptibar's Civ Pro questions?

[nyny]

What do you think of Adaptibar's Civ Pro questions?

They were okay, they tested a lot of the obscure civ pro topics that were actually on the exam, but some where poorly written or explained. All that did was force me to learn civ pro even more so I new the obscure stuff cold. Another thing is that there were only 200 civ pro questions on adaptibar, I would of liked more. I also did the 10 on the NCBE website.

[NY_Sea]

Anyone taking breaks along the way? I've been going at this for almost a month now and I feel some burnout coming on. At 60% for MBE right now, which I feel is pretty good at this stage in the game? 60% would put me at somewhere around where I was in July (126 scaled), so I would think that's bound to go up the more we get into this.

[iwantmybar]

Hello

I applied for the feb ny bar exam but i haven't received anything relaitng to the use of a computer on the exam.

Did you get something as well? I'm afraid i did not check the box on the application....

I absolutely dont want to handwrite otherwise i'm very afraid that the examiner will shred my exam sheet since i write like a drunk penis

Also, do you guys know if we have a chance to ALL take the exam in the city since we are just gonna be 4000 people rougly .

thanks

[NY_Sea]

Hello

I applied for the feb ny bar exam but i haven't received anything relaitng to the use of a computer on the exam.

Did you get something as well? I'm afraid i did not check the box on the application....

I absolutely dont want to handwrite otherwise i'm very afraid that the examiner will shred my exam sheet since i write like a drunk penis

Also, do you guys know if we have a chance to ALL take the exam in the city since we are just gonna be 4000 people rougly .

thanks

They don't send out the stuff for Examsoft until the application period is over... And no, you can take it anywhere you could've taken the July administration.

[Ineedhelpplease]

I am checking into this support group. I was studying for the July 2015 bar and ended up in the hospital. So here I go again..

[NY_Sea]

I am checking into this support group. I was studying for the July 2015 bar and ended up in the hospital. So here I go again..

Sorry to hear about that... I had a medical issue leading up to the exam too. It's a very stressful experience. I'm sure you'll kill it this time!!

Speaking of stress, is anyone taking a day off per week or are you just going 7 days a week? Been doing that for about a month now and I think I'm starting to feel a little burnout.

[iwantmybar]

Hello

I applied for the feb ny bar exam but i haven't received anything relaitng to the use of a computer on the exam.

Did you get something as well? I'm afraid i did not check the box on the application....

I absolutely dont want to handwrite otherwise i'm very afraid that the examiner will shred my exam sheet since i write like a drunk penis

Also, do you guys know if we have a chance to ALL take the exam in the city since we are just gonna be 4000 people rougly .

thanks

They don't send out the stuff for Examsoft until the application period is over... And no, you can take it anywhere you could've taken the July administration.

Thanks

So have you guys started to study yet?

I try to read my outlines for like 3 to 5 hours everyday. Advantage of being a retake is that you already know a lot of stuffs, i have a good feeling toward feb

[NY_Sea]

Thanks

So have you guys started to study yet?

I try to read my outlines for like 3 to 5 hours everyday. Advantage of being a retake is that you already know a lot of stuffs, i have a good feeling toward feb

So I really think I'm starting to hit my stride with MBE Qs... I've been getting a real hang on what the question is asking for and after that, it's just a matter of knowing the stuff and been getting in the 70%+ range for a little bit now. As for day to day study, I've been doing a combo of reading an outline and doing 15-20 MBE Qs+Review after work each day during the week. Usually ends up taking around 2 hours. Weekends is 2 or more outlines and a set of 30 Qs... Any more than that and I think it starts to become counterproductive if you're working full-time like I am.

[CMM]

Just joined this board so nice to know other people are going through the same thing!

my father passed away right after graduation and i had another death in the family in June, and surgery so needless today this wasnt my summer, but back at it again.

def going to look into adaptibar for the MBE ?'s alone. my biggest issue is how to condense my notes. I have outlines from a friend, but didnt listen to the lectures the first time around due to the time i had lost-just studied off of hers

what do you find most effective? re-type lecture notes? or index cards?

[storge]

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[NY_Sea]

Just joined this board so nice to know other people are going through the same thing!

my father passed away right after graduation and i had another death in the family in June, and surgery so needless today this wasnt my summer, but back at it again.

def going to look into adaptibar for the MBE ?'s alone. my biggest issue is how to condense my notes. I have outlines from a friend, but didnt listen to the lectures the first time around due to the time i had lost-just studied off of hers

what do you find most effective? re-type lecture notes? or index cards?

I've always typed out notes... Then you can kind of figure out if/how you need to condense them down. Usually I just go through my notes and try to say the concepts in my own words, which helps to get the concept in your head. I find that remembering the concept is way harder than just remembering the verbatim language they want you to spit out and that doing it in your own language helps to remember the language that BARBRI/Kaplan/Etc. want you to use on test day.

[iwantmybar]

I've already have study smart prep outlines from last july + my bar prep from last july (llm bar exam) and i'm probably gonna take seperac.

do you think taking critical pass is useful as well?

[BarTaker]

I try to read my outlines for like 3 to 5 hours everyday. Advantage of being a retake is that you already know a lot of stuffs, i have a good feeling toward feb

That's true! I'm doing just more MBE practice questions because it was my Achilles' heel last July.

[NY_Sea]

I try to read my outlines for like 3 to 5 hours everyday. Advantage of being a retake is that you already know a lot of stuffs, i have a good feeling toward feb

That's true! I'm doing just more MBE practice questions because it was my Achilles' heel last July.

Same for me... Starting to get encouraging because I'm picking out fact patterns and what they're asking, so that's resulting in some good numbers for me (just got 20/30 on a mixed set and missed a few gimmies).

Keep on plugging along everyone... It will pay off!!

[iwantmybar]

Nobody is posting anymore?

[TheRedMamba]

First time taker here (passed CA in July)

I have gone through the MBE subjects, gonna start doing MBE practice Qs now.

Anyone have any tips/recommendations for NY specific stuff? Essays?

[anshulkalra]

I have started with MBE's. Currently around 25% progress bar on Themis. Have finished contract, real property and Tort. I am hitting around 55-60% on MBE practice questions. Was working full time up until now. So had limited time to devote on bar prep. Now going all in with full throttle to finish all MBE subjects followed by New York subjects.

[NY_Sea]

Sorry for the absence... Work got crazy which made for later study nights.

Currently wrapping up my first go around of all my subject outlines... Started studying pretty damn soon after NY results came out.

Been doing MBE's with Adaptibar since I started studying... Beginning was rough (40-50%), but recently I haven't dipped past 66 so keep plugging along and I promise you will get better. MBE practice seems to be the key... I only did the BARBRI MBE Qs and didn't read the explanations the first time. Shot myself in the foot that way. Don't be like me if this is your first attempt.

Will check in sporadically and I feel more in the last two weeks leading up to relieve stress and share in this misery with others lol... Good luck everyone! We all can do this!!

[iwantmybar]

Hey,

What do you guys think of buying seperac?

I already paid for Adaptibar, the Emmanuel MBE Book and still have my bar preps textbooks from last july. Do you guys think it's worth it?

have a good xmas

[Ineedhelpplease]

I just got adaptibar.. I am going through some constitutional law questions and am not doing too bad. I hope it is not taking it to easy on me ... If anybody ends up getting seperac, please let us know how it is.