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Re: I didn't upload my exam

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by mr.hands » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:05 am

Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
STFU. Many testing locations don't have wifi so you can't upload it until you get back to the hotel. Even then, it isn't a disqualifier. Forgetting to load it has nothing to do with someone's ability to be an attorney

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by gaagoots » Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:13 am

Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
You had accommodations at a hotel with wifi which is why you didn't leave the room before uploading. Those of us at the typing center in Ontario had no wifi.

I didn't say anything earlier, but you openly admitted to visiting this site while you still had 2 PTs to finish. I'm curious about the agreement you signed regarding those with accommodations and what you can and can't do regarding internet usage during your testing. I don't think the state bar would take kindly to your visiting this site, regardless of what was and wasn't posted here.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by Outis Onoma » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:04 am

CALawGirl wrote:
Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
hmmmm...He did not do anything unethical or immoral to warrant not being fit to be an attorney. Our moral character application did not have a "have you forgotten anything important" question to determine our fitness to practice. People forget, it's human nature. The stress of the exam and flying out of state may play into it. Even attorneys forget and when they do, they get sanctioned or are given a penalty but not disbarred due to forgetting.

Let's try to be respectful, the OP is already hard on himself & realizes his mistakes. He just may pass even with the 10 point reduction and you, who didn't forget to upload may fail. So let's get off our high horse. And even if you think it's stupid or something you won't do, your statement adds nothing. And remember the saying: if you have nothing nice to say...

When you start a statement with "sorry" you should just stop. Anything after that is never good.
Depends on the state. Some states ask in the bar app whether you have ever been involved in or reprimanded for, either in school or work, for: "excessive absences" and "failure to complete assignments in a timely manner."

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by CALawGirl » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:38 am

Outis Onoma wrote:
CALawGirl wrote:
Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
hmmmm...He did not do anything unethical or immoral to warrant not being fit to be an attorney. Our moral character application did not have a "have you forgotten anything important" question to determine our fitness to practice. People forget, it's human nature. The stress of the exam and flying out of state may play into it. Even attorneys forget and when they do, they get sanctioned or are given a penalty but not disbarred due to forgetting.

Let's try to be respectful, the OP is already hard on himself & realizes his mistakes. He just may pass even with the 10 point reduction and you, who didn't forget to upload may fail. So let's get off our high horse. And even if you think it's stupid or something you won't do, your statement adds nothing. And remember the saying: if you have nothing nice to say...

When you start a statement with "sorry" you should just stop. Anything after that is never good.
Depends on the state. Some states ask in the bar app whether you have ever been involved in or reprimanded for, either in school or work, for: "excessive absences" and "failure to complete assignments in a timely manner."
H/She "completed the assignment" as he finished the Bar exam. He also wasn't "absent" as he showed up to take the Bar exam. He just didn't upload the finished assignment. Even if you say, he didn't complete the "assignments," as you quoted above, assignments as in plural (frequent occurrence) were your ability to complete tasks may be called into question. One incident is unlikely to make you unfit to practice as Calicakes is inferring.

Hope this clarifies my point and the point of others that have responded to Calicakes.
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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by odoylerulez » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:39 am

Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by CALawGirl » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:42 am

odoylerulez wrote:Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.
Fortunately, it's the call of those who are mature and qualified enough to make the rules. Based on the rule, A 10 point deduction seems fair. Oh...IMO.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by odoylerulez » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:48 am

CALawGirl wrote:
odoylerulez wrote:Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.
Fortunately, it's the call of those who are mature and qualified enough to make the rules. Based on the rule, A 10 point deduction seems fair. Oh...IMO.
Nonsense. This shouldn't even really be about making it fair to OP. It should be about protecting prospective clients from this flavor of stupidity. The last thing the legal profession needs is yet another attorney that can't meet even an important deadline.

It's one thing to make a mistake. We all do from time to time. It's another to forget to upload a bar exam. This shows a stunning lack of personal responsibility that could be a sign of things to come.
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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by rinkrat19 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:50 am

odoylerulez wrote:
CALawGirl wrote:
odoylerulez wrote:Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.
Fortunately, it's the call of those who are mature and qualified enough to make the rules. Based on the rule, A 10 point deduction seems fair. Oh...IMO.
Nonsense. This shouldn't even really be about making it fair to OP. It should be about protecting prospective clients from this flavor of stupidity. The last thing the legal profession needs is yet another attorney that can't meet even an important deadline.
You care way too much.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by CALawGirl » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:54 am

odoylerulez wrote:
CALawGirl wrote:
odoylerulez wrote:Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.
Fortunately, it's the call of those who are mature and qualified enough to make the rules. Based on the rule, A 10 point deduction seems fair. Oh...IMO.
Nonsense. This shouldn't even really be about making it fair to OP. It should be about protecting prospective clients from this flavor of stupidity. The last thing the legal profession needs is yet another attorney that can't meet even an important deadline.
You seem really strongly about your opinion. Since you do, I strongly suggest to make a petition to the State Bar or the ABA if you haven't already done so. You are planning to be an advocate for justice and fairness, don't just talk about it, do something about it. I feel a 10'point reduction will remind him not to make the same mistake. If you don't agree, take action because the rule is here to stay like it or not.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by CALawGirl » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:55 am

rinkrat19 wrote:
odoylerulez wrote:
CALawGirl wrote:
odoylerulez wrote:Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.
Fortunately, it's the call of those who are mature and qualified enough to make the rules. Based on the rule, A 10 point deduction seems fair. Oh...IMO.
Nonsense. This shouldn't even really be about making it fair to OP. It should be about protecting prospective clients from this flavor of stupidity. The last thing the legal profession needs is yet another attorney that can't meet even an important deadline.
You care way too much.
That's why I told him to do something about it.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by Desert Fox » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:15 am

gaagoots wrote:
Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
You had accommodations at a hotel with wifi which is why you didn't leave the room before uploading. Those of us at the typing center in Ontario had no wifi.

I didn't say anything earlier, but you openly admitted to visiting this site while you still had 2 PTs to finish. I'm curious about the agreement you signed regarding those with accommodations and what you can and can't do regarding internet usage during your testing. I don't think the state bar would take kindly to your visiting this site, regardless of what was and wasn't posted here.
Sounds like calicakes needs to be reported to the bar.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by rpupkin » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:43 am

Desert Fox wrote:
gaagoots wrote:
Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
You had accommodations at a hotel with wifi which is why you didn't leave the room before uploading. Those of us at the typing center in Ontario had no wifi.

I didn't say anything earlier, but you openly admitted to visiting this site while you still had 2 PTs to finish. I'm curious about the agreement you signed regarding those with accommodations and what you can and can't do regarding internet usage during your testing. I don't think the state bar would take kindly to your visiting this site, regardless of what was and wasn't posted here.
Sounds like calicakes needs to be reported to the bar.
I'm starting to feel sorry for calicakes here. We've progressed quickly from mocking to banning to disbarring.

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Re: I didn't upload my exam

Post by Tom Joad » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:58 pm

odoylerulez wrote:Nonsense. This shouldn't even really be about making it fair to OP. It should be about protecting prospective clients from this flavor of stupidity. The last thing the legal profession needs is yet another attorney that can't meet even an important deadline.

It's one thing to make a mistake. We all do from time to time. It's another to forget to upload a bar exam. This shows a stunning lack of personal responsibility that could be a sign of things to come.
odoylerulez wrote:I'm pretty sure that here, no one receives a CALI notification until all of the grades are released. I'm assuming that most schools do things this way with some exceptions.
lol you are a dumbass who went to some TTT that gives out CALIs. You shouldn't be an attorney or post on this board.

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Post by Underoath » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:04 pm

Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
#1 since you think you know everything....I went straight to my friends residence who does not have wifi because she lives with her grandparents. I headed to airport without even thinking twice. I didn't bring my laptop with me!

So fuck off.

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Post by TxBarTaker09 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:06 pm

odoylerulez wrote:Someone who doesn't upload a part of the bar exam is not mature enough to be an attorney. Lawyers need to be detail oriented -- hell, any professional does. And, uploading the exam isn't exactly a small detail.

You should not be handling other people's problems ... much less their money. Perhaps harsh but it's true.

Should be autofail IMO.
I can tell you as someone who has worked in the legal profession since 2007, no, nope. Lawyers do dumb stuff all the time.

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Post by Underoath » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:08 pm

CALawGirl wrote:
Calicakes wrote:I'm sorry, but anyone who "forgets" to upload should NOT be an attorney. Will you "forget" to file your client's paperwork? Forget deadlines? Forget a SOL?

I don't even LEAVE the room until I upload it. Even if you had no wifi in your testing center, and you had to wait until you got home, how can you forget? Did you not even open your laptop at the airport?
hmmmm...He did not do anything unethical or immoral to warrant not being fit to be an attorney. Our moral character application did not have a "have you forgotten anything important" question to determine our fitness to practice. People forget, it's human nature. The stress of the exam and flying out of state may play into it. Even attorneys forget and when they do, they get sanctioned or are given a penalty but not disbarred due to forgetting.

Let's try to be respectful, the OP is already hard on himself & realizes his mistakes. He just may pass even with the 10 point reduction and you, who didn't forget to upload may fail. So let's get off our high horse. And even if you think it's stupid or something you won't do, your statement adds nothing. And remember the saying: if you have nothing nice to say...

When you start a statement with "sorry" you should just stop. Anything after that is never good.
Thank you!! I appreciate it. So sick of these wannabe attorneys thinking they are above everyone.

In addition, to everyone else, no this isn't a fake post or a flame or whatever other synonym you guys wanna use. I don't have time to get on a forum to joke about shit. I literally had no one else to tell this to that would understand the fear I felt when I realized my mistake.

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Post by kjartan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:28 pm

I was pretty infuriated that they didn't provide wifi at the testing center so we could upload on the spot. I'm sure people forget to upload their exams far more often than you would think. Especially after a few celebratory drinks.

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Post by odoylerulez » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:31 pm

Tom Joad wrote:
odoylerulez wrote:Nonsense. This shouldn't even really be about making it fair to OP. It should be about protecting prospective clients from this flavor of stupidity. The last thing the legal profession needs is yet another attorney that can't meet even an important deadline.

It's one thing to make a mistake. We all do from time to time. It's another to forget to upload a bar exam. This shows a stunning lack of personal responsibility that could be a sign of things to come.
odoylerulez wrote:I'm pretty sure that here, no one receives a CALI notification until all of the grades are released. I'm assuming that most schools do things this way with some exceptions.
lol you are a dumbass who went to some TTT that gives out CALIs. You shouldn't be an attorney or post on this board.
I did not go to a TTT. I went to a good regional school in an area where I had some connections and decent job prospects before starting school. My school is in the top 50, and I did just fine in law school. That's not exactly TTT.

And, to clarify, I don't think I'm above anyone. I'm just tired of working with people that have no sense of personal responsibility -- it makes everyone else's job much harder. And, it adds more fuel to this boomer idea that our entire generation is incompetent. Look, if you can't even upload the bar exam on time, that's a bad sign. A really bad sign.

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Um T50 is TTT. 50 fucking schools is huge.

I go to the 45th most prestigeous law school in America . . . said nobody ever.

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odoylerulez wrote: I did not go to a TTT. I went to a good regional school in an area where I had some connections and decent job prospects before starting school. My school is in the top 50, and I did just fine in law school. That's not exactly TTT.

And, to clarify, I don't think I'm above anyone. I'm just tired of working with people that have no sense of personal responsibility -- it makes everyone else's job much harder. And, it adds more fuel to this boomer idea that our entire generation is incompetent. Look, if you can't even upload the bar exam on time, that's a bad sign. A really bad sign.
Dude, your school's curve was a 3.0. You went to a TTT.
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odoylerulez wrote: And, to clarify, I don't think I'm above anyone. I'm just tired of working with people that have no sense of personal responsibility -- it makes everyone else's job much harder. And, it adds more fuel to this boomer idea that our entire generation is incompetent. Look, if you can't even upload the bar exam on time, that's a bad sign. A really bad sign.
What are you even talking about? Did I miss the OP blaming someone else for his or her mistake?

You're the one mindlessly throwing boomerisms around. In my opinion, your zealous sanctimony is more of a problem in our profession than the OP's carelessness.

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Post by odoylerulez » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:45 pm

kjartan wrote:
odoylerulez wrote: I did not go to a TTT. I went to a good regional school in an area where I had some connections and decent job prospects before starting school. My school is in the top 50, and I did just fine in law school. That's not exactly TTT.

And, to clarify, I don't think I'm above anyone. I'm just tired of working with people that have no sense of personal responsibility -- it makes everyone else's job much harder. And, it adds more fuel to this boomer idea that our entire generation is incompetent. Look, if you can't even upload the bar exam on time, that's a bad sign. A really bad sign.
Dude, your school's curve was a 3.0. You went to a TTT.
Dude, there are a number of schools in the top 50 that have a median around 3.0 or a little above. I think my school had a 3.19 median at graduation but closer to 3.0 or so after first year. Still not TTT.

Last I checked, TTT refers to third-tier school. Not a top 50 school. Never really understood the mentality on here that if you didn't go to a T13, then that means you went "TTT."

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